MANISH GOENKA

Past few days with the comments that going on and on about Bade papa i wanted to know what he did do to get so much scold from all of us. This made me to watch all the episodes to know what he did and at the end of the final episode according my thoughts i concluded that despite of the ego he carriers around or the pride he walks with he is nothing but a bechara 🤣🤣🤣🤣 and in my books he is an average khaand maker. I could simply count his khaands in my one hand. 🤪🤪🤪

Disclamir : before i start this let me tell you all this manish Goenka i am talking about is only about season 3. I am not connecting him with season 2.

This whole page evolves with the fact why Manish Goenka aka bade papa refuses to accept abhi.

Manish Goenka is known as the head of a very rich family in udhaipur The Goenka's who own a diamond business. The one lost his dear son, his daughter in law (Naira) whom he accepted as his daughter and his another daughter in law (sirat) the mother of his three grandchildren.

In the age where he needs to enjoy his moments and make memories with his grandchildren and tell stories to them he has to take the responsiblity of their upbringing. He brings all the four kids Vansh, Kairav, Akshara and Aarohi with all the freedom he could give them. He let them choose the career they wished and as years passed when both his granddaughters came of marriage age he asked their opinion over marriage. Both the girls said they needed time. He agreed to that too. Yet as the elder their stood his responsiblity to fulfill to find a good and decent guy to both the girls. In his search his wife Swarna showed him a guy of good character and from a good family Dr. Abhimanyu Birla. He was so happy and excited when he met the guy to fix his alliance with akshara.

So we all know what happened since start of this story. Abhi loved akshu but it was mistaken that he liked aarohi by all. Akshu know who this yet in her confusion pulled all the elders go ahead with that confusion in a way agreeing to abhi and aarohi alliance that exploded on 1st tilak day.

When both the families decided not to meet each other again they yet met for abhi molestation case. Another fiasco in which bade papa didnt let akshu to be involved worrying for her name and reputation that day he saw Birlas specially Harsh openly insulting his granddaughter. He was angry when she left to court without his knowledge yet agreed when she gave her valid reasons.

Then comes the biggest explosion Abhi coming to Goenka house and demanding to marry aarohi. Manish agreed. Why did he do it? He knew it was a marriage meant for doom yet he agreed to it.

Because for the first time he saw his youngest granddaughter aarohi really happy and he couldn't oppose it. He even said the same to Kaiarv that he agreed so aarohi can be happy.

There is nothing he could do with this girl aarohi even when he said no she went behind his back with AG and did the alliance.

Let this man be a born egoistic, man of pride but there is one thing we need to agree over here that no matter what he loves all his grandkids equally. He wants them nothing more than to be happy. During 1st tilak it was akshu who made them agree to alliance by agreeing to aarohi illusionary love and manish went behind his kids choice. Then when aarohi went behind his back and agreed for the 2nd tilak he still went behind his kids happiness than what he saw in front of his eyes. At the end what did all these kids do one stole money from home and the other ran away with her sister fiance.

Why Manish can't accept abhi for akshu ?

Manish is a 70 year old man who takes care of his grandkids. He knows how his grandkids are. Kairav is a responsible grown man who had taken the place of his son and his sisters father place at a very young age. To him his sister is a bachi at times he calls her beta. Then there is aarohi to us she is the vamp in the story but to them she is the grandkid and sister who is a selfish, self-centered, I don't care type of person or as akshara once described aarohi is smart but when it comes to love she is behind us all. Then there is akshu a meek, silent girl who took everyones wrath, suffers in silence and gave only love to them in return.

Bade papa knew what akshu is. The one who can suffer any type of pain and keep silent. At the same time he knew Birlas are all mad house who knows only to shout, yell, demand and order all the day around. He had seen how they praised aarohi. He had seen how they had insulted akshu every now and then. The only word he heard from Harsh till this day is iss ladki or uss ladki not akshu or akshara. Why would he even want to give akshu to a house that he knew would not respect her the way aarohi is respected or given importance to.

His heart might have only one question at this moment. Who will take care of his grand daughter and assure her happiness in his absence. He is a grandfather not a father who is going to stay with her for another 20 or so years. The two people who needed to give him one was abhi who turned from a loveable guy to an idhar udhar. Let's be honest over here abhi went to ak then jumped to ar then back to ak any elder would tend to think which girl he will jump next. Then there is harsh as an elder all he did till date is insult akshu. Even before he knew akshu as the girl his son loves he insulted her profession subtly in front of all.

As an elder all he needs is another elders acceptance from birla side. Will he get that. Who will assure akshara's happiness in birla house. Like he said marriage in India happens between families not between two people.

Then on Sankranti day whole society insult them as the eloped couple. Akshu was insulted for eloping with her sister fiancee. Abhi he defended her but did that clear akshu name no it only damaged her name more. Abhi had never cared for society if on that day if he had said what happened ( electric wire accident) everyone would shut their mouth. But no he only declared his love as if no one knows. Bade papa have to intervene and ask sorry when he wasn't at any fault. Abhi way of defending akshu didn't work well that day it's a worry any elder will have.

Does that make him a great man. No he is a grey character with his own flaws.

The day abhi entered his home for 2nd tilak being the elder to all who knew this marriage was wrong could have stopped but he went ahead with it in the name of aarohi happiness.

Then their comes akshara. She had been her bade papa's pride always yet she made him to bend his head in front of society at a very wrong time by eloping. As an elder he is hurt over her silence and more than that if it was aarohi he may have not reacted this extreme as aarohi never cared over such things more than herself. But akshara doing something like this is like a dream to him that he couldn't still come out.

SISTERS EQUATION :

Next comes the biggest problem over this story. The equation between akshara and aarohi. I don't know what to say over this but it is what they have shown.

Time and again it was shown how even the family elders can't control aarohi, she didnt even listen to her grandpa no for the wedding.

The first ever episode started with aarohi fighting with a just arrived akshu even when manish went to scold aarohi it was akshu who stopped him by shaking her head. Then comes the wedding day when manish said akshu went away but we knew she would return home. That statement clearly states what the naira kids are doing for aarohi. Akshu left home in the name of studies and none had an idea over it.

Then in the first episode aarohi shouts at akshu when Manish is about to condemn her over it akshu shakes head to stop him. He kept quiet to not escalate the issue.

Then their is a fact that aarohi had blackmailed, threatened and did all emotional drama to akshu behind close doors which the old akshu never breathed to anyone.

Does that make him a great man. No he is a grey character with his own flaws.

When the girls said they need time instead of understanding and leaving it he went in his old age way of searching a good guy despite kairav opposing him.

He never sat and spoke with akshu before first tilak even when abhi asked to get her opinion.

He didn't try to clear the confusion as an elder during 1st tilak and went with the flow.

He again had a chance to talk with akshu during molestation case yet he let it slide.

The day abhi entered his home for 2nd tilak being the elder to all who knew this marriage was wrong could have stopped but he went ahead with it in the name of aarohi happiness.

So their we all go all of them in this show are famous for being a grey character with their own speciality in making kaands.

P. S : I know that's a long and boring post yet do bear with me.

Originally posted by: hari15

Past few days with the comments that going on and on about Bade papa i wanted to know what he did do to get so much scold from all of us. This made me to watch all the episodes to know what he did and at the end of the final episode according my thoughts i concluded that despite of the ego he carriers around or the pride he walks with he is nothing but a bechara and in my books he is an average khaand maker. I could simply count his khaands in my one hand.

Disclamir : before i start this let me tell you all this manish Goenka i am talking about is only about season 3. I am not connecting him with season 2.

This whole page evolves with the fact why Manish Goenka aka bade papa refuses to accept abhi.

Manish Goenka is known as the head of a very rich family in udhaipur The Goenka's who own a diamond business. The one lost his dear son, his daughter in law (Naira) whom he accepted as his daughter and his another daughter in law (sirat) the mother of his three grandchildren.

In the age where he needs to enjoy his moments and make memories with his grandchildren and tell stories to them he has to take the responsiblity of their upbringing. He brings all the four kids Vansh, Kairav, Akshara and Aarohi with all the freedom he could give them. He let them choose the career they wished and as years passed when both his granddaughters came of marriage age he asked their opinion over marriage. Both the girls said they needed time. He agreed to that too. Yet as the elder their stood his responsiblity to fulfill to find a good and decent guy to both the girls. In his search his wife Swarna showed him a guy of good character and from a good family Dr. Abhimanyu Birla. He was so happy and excited when he met the guy to fix his alliance with akshara.

So we all know what happened since start of this story. Abhi loved akshu but it was mistaken that he liked aarohi by all. Akshu know who this yet in her confusion pulled all the elders go ahead with that confusion in a way agreeing to abhi and aarohi alliance that exploded on 1st tilak day.

When both the families decided not to meet each other again they yet met for abhi molestation case. Another fiasco in which bade papa didnt let akshu to be involved worrying for her name and reputation that day he saw Birlas specially Harsh openly insulting his granddaughter. He was angry when she left to court without his knowledge yet agreed when she gave her valid reasons.

Then comes the biggest explosion Abhi coming to Goenka house and demanding to marry aarohi. Manish agreed. Why did he do it? He knew it was a marriage meant for doom yet he agreed to it.

Because for the first time he saw his youngest granddaughter aarohi really happy and he couldn't oppose it. He even said the same to Kaiarv that he agreed so aarohi can be happy.

There is nothing he could do with this girl aarohi even when he said no she went behind his back with AG and did the alliance.

Let this man be a born egoistic, man of pride but there is one thing we need to agree over here that no matter what he loves all his grandkids equally. He wants them nothing more than to be happy. During 1st tilak it was akshu who made them agree to alliance by agreeing to aarohi illusionary love and manish went behind his kids choice. Then when aarohi went behind his back and agreed for the 2nd tilak he still went behind his kids happiness than what he saw in front of his eyes. At the end what did all these kids do one stole money from home and the other ran away with her sister fiance.

Why Manish can't accept abhi for akshu ?

Manish is a 70 year old man who takes care of his grandkids. He knows how his grandkids are. Kairav is a responsible grown man who had taken the place of his son and his sisters father place at a very young age. To him his sister is a bachi at times he calls her beta. Then there is aarohi to us she is the vamp in the story but to them she is the grandkid and sister who is a selfish, self-centered, I don't care type of person or as akshara once described aarohi is smart but when it comes to love she is behind us all. Then there is akshu a meek, silent girl who took everyones wrath, suffers in silence and gave only love to them in return.

Bade papa knew what akshu is. The one who can suffer any type of pain and keep silent. At the same time he knew Birlas are all mad house who knows only to shout, yell, demand and order all the day around. He had seen how they praised aarohi. He had seen how they had insulted akshu every now and then. The only word he heard from Harsh till this day is iss ladki or uss ladki not akshu or akshara. Why would he even want to give akshu to a house that he knew would not respect her the way aarohi is respected or given importance to.

His heart might have only one question at this moment. Who will take care of his grand daughter and assure her happiness in his absence. He is a grandfather not a father who is going to stay with her for another 20 or so years. The two people who needed to give him one was abhi who turned from a loveable guy to an idhar udhar. Let's be honest over here abhi went to ak then jumped to ar then back to ak any elder would tend to think which girl he will jump next. Then there is harsh as an elder all he did till date is insult akshu. Even before he knew akshu as the girl his son loves he insulted her profession subtly in front of all.

As an elder all he needs is another elders acceptance from birla side. Will he get that. Who will assure akshara's happiness in birla house. Like he said marriage in India happens between families not between two people.

Then on Sankranti day whole society insult them as the eloped couple. Akshu was insulted for eloping with her sister fiancee. Abhi he defended her but did that clear akshu name no it only damaged her name more. Abhi had never cared for society if on that day if he had said what happened ( electric wire accident) everyone would shut their mouth. But no he only declared his love as if no one knows. Bade papa have to intervene and ask sorry when he wasn't at any fault. Abhi way of defending akshu didn't work well that day it's a worry any elder will have.

Does that make him a great man. No he is a grey character with his own flaws.

The day abhi entered his home for 2nd tilak being the elder to all who knew this marriage was wrong could have stopped but he went ahead with it in the name of aarohi happiness.

Then their comes akshara. She had been her bade papa's pride always yet she made him to bend his head in front of society at a very wrong time by eloping. As an elder he is hurt over her silence and more than that if it was aarohi he may have not reacted this extreme as aarohi never cared over such things more than herself. But akshara doing something like this is like a dream to him that he couldn't still come out.

SISTERS EQUATION :

Next comes the biggest problem over this story. The equation between akshara and aarohi. I don't know what to say over this but it is what they have shown.

Time and again it was shown how even the family elders can't control aarohi, she didnt even listen to her grandpa no for the wedding.

The first ever episode started with aarohi fighting with a just arrived akshu even when manish went to scold aarohi it was akshu who stopped him by shaking her head. Then comes the wedding day when manish said akshu went away but we knew she would return home. That statement clearly states what the naira kids are doing for aarohi. Akshu left home in the name of studies and none had an idea over it.

Then in the first episode aarohi shouts at akshu when Manish is about to condemn her over it akshu shakes head to stop him. He kept quiet to not escalate the issue.

Then their is a fact that aarohi had blackmailed, threatened and did all emotional drama to akshu behind close doors which the old akshu never breathed to anyone.

Does that make him a great man. No he is a grey character with his own flaws.

When the girls said they need time instead of understanding and leaving it he went in his old age way of searching a good guy despite kairav opposing him.

He never sat and spoke with akshu before first tilak even when abhi asked to get her opinion.

He didn't try to clear the confusion as an elder during 1st tilak and went with the flow.

He again had a chance to talk with akshu during molestation case yet he let it slide.

The day abhi entered his home for 2nd tilak being the elder to all who knew this marriage was wrong could have stopped but he went ahead with it in the name of aarohi happiness.

So their we all go all of them in this show are famous for being a grey character with their own speciality in making kaands.

P. S : I know that's a long and boring post yet do bear with me.

He is always a special character from season2 having that bgm given in yesterday episode. That shows his ego and attitude. So he was back in that mode yesterday.

Hey .. Beautiful post .. ❤️

Manish is right in his own place, he knows how much harsh hates akshu, he knows harsh wants Dr Bahu and he will keep on insulting akshu.. and akshu will suffer alot.. abhi can't be with her all the time since he is a busy surgeon..

He can't accept the alliance till he get complete trust on abhi and his love for akshu .. he can't hurt arohi too ..

Let's see how situation changes after heart surgery..

Harsh kaand is yet to come out ... No body knows about it till yet ..

Next week gonna be full of drama...

Actually..I talked my mother...nd posted in my post....my mother told....I don't told her about serial concept....just real life...my mother told ladke ne aisa kaun sa kaam kar diya ki maa baap Ko Vishwas ho jaayeah.....shaadi se pehle ladke ka khandan,status,parivar sab dekha jaata akele ladke k piche shaadi nahi hoti.........kal ko koi baat bigde ladka ladki toh alag....her roj ...koi samjahane wala...nd koi baat bigde toh koi bada ho....all parents hv this point of view

Manish seems like he is correct in his place. Considering he knows situation in birla house. For me the only problem is his way of solving problems in bit annoying.

He is 70+ he can very well bring out his concern infront of abhira than just rejecting it. If he corrects them then i don't see any problem with him. As without that he looks biased between akshu and arohi as he agreed for arohi without even consulting akshu but for akshu he is not even showing any concern. His POV is something that i want to see. 😊

And one more thing some one mentioned in other thread. In birla house everyone are okay with the relation except harsh. He should try to understand or help abhira by guiding them than fighting with harsh is what i felt.as that would annoy harsh more. 🙂

Other than that a great post 👍🏼

Originally posted by: Prachi1967

Actually..I talked my mother...nd posted in my post....my mother told....I don't told her about serial concept....just real life...my mother told ladke ne aisa kaun sa kaam kar diya ki maa baap Ko Vishwas ho jaayeah.....shaadi se pehle ladke ka khandan,status,parivar sab dekha jaata akele ladke k piche shaadi nahi hoti.........kal ko koi baat bigde ladka ladki toh alag....her roj ...koi samjahane wala...nd koi baat bigde toh koi bada ho....all parents hv this point of view

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

Manish seems like he is correct in his place. Considering he knows situation in birla house. For me the only problem is his way of solving problems in bit annoying.

He is 70+ he can very well bring out his concern infront of abhira than just rejecting it. If he corrects them then i don't see any problem with him. As without that he looks biased between akshu and arohi as he agreed for arohi without even consulting akshu but for akshu he is not even showing any concern. His POV is something that i want to see. 😊

And one more thing some one mentioned in other thread. In birla house everyone are okay with the relation except harsh. He should try to understand or help abhira by guiding them than fighting with harsh is what i felt.as that would annoy harsh more. 🙂

Other than that a great post 👍🏼

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

Manish seems like he is correct in his place. Considering he knows situation in birla house. For me the only problem is his way of solving problems in bit annoying.

He is 70+ he can very well bring out his concern infront of abhira than just rejecting it. If he corrects them then i don't see any problem with him. As without that he looks biased between akshu and arohi as he agreed for arohi without even consulting akshu but for akshu he is not even showing any concern. His POV is something that i want to see. 😊

And one more thing some one mentioned in other thread. In birla house everyone are okay with the relation except harsh. He should try to understand or help abhira by guiding them than fighting with harsh is what i felt.as that would annoy harsh more. 🙂

Other than that a great post 👍🏼

Manish has his flaws that is going to lead the story in its own way.

You pointed the right point out here. Why he accepted for aarohi not akshu. Aarohi fits birla's. They all are like rice kept in same pot. But akshu is different. We have seen how she suffers alone all pain. Yesterday when she said I can bear all pain but not this. So if being with abhi meant a suffering in another form she will take it.

Manish said it change your family I will give my daughter. Though he hasn't said much he has this fear and knows she might suffer in that house and won't tell anyone. He wants to trust birla's to give ak to them. About ar she will demand her wants like how birla's do and fight them won't suffer in the name of family love.

Harsh not accepting akshu is the biggest problem. Others are secondary relations but harsh will be her father - in - law another form of father a father figure. If he himself is the trouble then it's a life long suffering for her. She will always be struck between abhi and harsh as the father and son too doesn't have a good relationship. With akshu it will only increase and harsh will show it on ak like how he shows it on neil and manjari.

Originally posted by: Mehersudha

As they represent the head of the family what Manish told is from Goenkas side and what Harsh says is from Birlas side. They pointed family that way. Because all have to agree for marriage then only both will be happy. If one keeps anger another invites happily they can't enter the new precious phase of life happily leaving their own family.

Originally posted by: hari15

Manish has his flaws that is going to lead the story in its own way.

You pointed the right point out here. Why he accepted for aarohi not akshu. Aarohi fits birla's. They all are like rice kept in same pot. But akshu is different. We have seen how she suffers alone all pain. Yesterday when she said I can bear all pain but not this. So if being with abhi meant a suffering in another form she will take it.

Manish said it change your family I will give my daughter. Though he hasn't said much he has this fear and knows she might suffer in that house and won't tell anyone. He wants to trust birla's to give ak to them. About ar she will demand her wants like how birla's do and fight them won't suffer in the name of family love.

Harsh not accepting akshu is the biggest problem. Others are secondary relations but harsh will be her father - in - law another form of father a father figure. If he himself is the trouble then it's a life long suffering for her. She will always be struck between abhi and harsh as the father and son too doesn't have a good relationship. With akshu it will only increase and harsh will show it on ak like how he shows it on neil and manjari.