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AnyaRSingh

@AnyaRSingh

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Posted: 7 years ago

Todays episode mohsin killed it...

What a performance😲 He was brilliant

I actually understood him for the first time clearly.

He basically chose suvarna over naira and to be turned away like that must have been so heart breaking.

From the beginning...I kind of felt naira was considering taking her to the hospital by rem how she threw her away...

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Kartik really seemed to be this lost child. His hands shaking, the lost look on his face, the way he pulled naira against him and held her...

God I was crying almost in that scene.

He was so lost and broken...Damn...For the first time rather than a suffocated boyfriend he seemed like a child...He would do anything for his mother, even live in pain. Extreme pain. Just to ease her pain. Does this make what he is doing right? No but his human.

Everyone loves their mothers...How can we fault him?

Suvarna on the other hand is selfish. Was selfish and will always be selfish. While kartik's love for her is pure...and he would do anything for her. Her love is not pure. Her love is dark and disturbing. She just wants him with her to spite naira. Because if she really loved him she would not have turned him away the way she did and said his not her son. Or robbed him of his happiness the way she did. She turned away from seeing him. If she really loved him how could she be content suffocating him like this?

Another part of me wonders, if charles manson was my mother, and he asked me to commit mass murders coz he was my mother does it make it right?

This links up with kartik...why is he enabling her madness, by hurting naira. by keeping away from her. He should know that the way she is behaving is unhealthy.

Yesterday i was super angry with naira. But today after reflecting, and having seen kartik like this i understand her. How can she hold on to him, when she saw him this broken knowing her presence will cause him pain if suvarna is hurt by it.

Her decision to make it easier for him is selfless. Again they both come out white to me. Pure white.

I really see no milan at this point. I see know way of them finding each other in these circumstances...How can u fault someone for loving their mother, and how can u fault someone else for wanting to ease someone elses pain.

Naitik finally woke up...What is wrong with him honestly...When kartik was grabbing naira and blaming her in all directions why could he not show up then and slap him and protect her. His protection fell flat to me it was more exciting in the precap it took him two years to realize his daughter is being treated like a doormat. Because i just felt so sad watching both kartik and naira. They find solace in each other but because of one womans selfishness they are torn apart.

As for the precap...:

Why was naira even in the hospital room lol she was trying to kill suvarna in the sly by showing up LOL...I think finally she will understand why kartik never came for her. Suvarna used her madness/ and pain to control the poor boy...

Special mention for suvaranas dream of naira pulling kartik away...LOLOLOL best dream ever how i wish it was true

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CaptiveFreedom

@CaptiveFreedom

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Posted: 7 years ago

Momo was tooo good...I could still feel bad for Karthik because of his portrayal...He was the most vulnerable...even more vulnerable than the time he revealed his backstory to Naira 2 years back in the show...what a growth as an actor 👏...His scenes were tooo natural, emotional and heartbreaking...Karthik has always chosen Suwarna over Naira post Shubham's death...so decision of divorcing him was wisest decision Naira has ever taken...

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AnyaRSingh

@AnyaRSingh

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: CaptiveFreedom
Momo was tooo good...I could still feel bad for Karthik because of his portrayal...He was the most vulnerable...even more vulnerable than the time he revealed his backstory to Naira 2 years back in the show...what a growth as an actor 👏...His scenes were tooo natural, emotional and heartbreaking...Karthik has always chosen Suwarna over Naira post Shubham's death...so decision of divorcing him was wisest decision Naira has ever taken...

At the same time i cannot fault her. because we all saw how she felt seeing him that broken and vulnerable. She wants him to not have to be in pain. Naira will never hurt kartik she wants to help him and will always be like that. Sure he wont see it like that but its heartbreaking...Watching both of them like this so yes divorce is a good idea...( finally suvarna will get what she wants ) while both angels are utterly destroyed by her selfishness

I cannot fault him either for loving his mother. Which child does not love their mother.

Suvarna on the other hand is selfish. After everything kartik did for her, living in pain, barely even able to breath under her suffocation just so that she would not be in pain. threw him away why because he was near naira?

Because for a moment he felt weak? And wanted to be happy. I found suvarana extremely selfish firstly for calling him nothing to her. And secondly for behaving the way she did.

She does not love anyone as a mother. she loves the idea of a being a mother but not doing the actual work... making sacrifices etc..

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CaptiveFreedom

@CaptiveFreedom

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: AnyaRSingh

At the same time i cannot fault her. because we all saw how she felt seeing him that broken and vulnerable. She wants him to not have to be in pain. Naira will never hurt kartik she wants to help him and will always be like that. Sure he wont see it like that but its heartbreaking...Watching both of them like this so yes divorce is a good idea...( finally suvarna will get what she wants ) while both angels are utterly destroyed by her selfishness
I cannot fault him either for loving his mother. Which child does not love their mother.
Suvarna on the other hand is selfish. After everything kartik did for her, living in pain, barely even able to breath under her suffocation just so that she would not be in pain. threw him away why because he was near naira?
Because for a moment he felt weak? And wanted to be happy. I found suvarana extremely selfish firstly for calling him nothing to her. And secondly for behaving the way she did.
She does not love anyone as a mother. she loves the idea of a being a mother but not doing the actual work... making sacrifices etc..

@bold when parents are selfish...children take their own decisions..the way Karthik considered Manish and his family selfish...he lived away from them for his own sanity..than he made Singhanias his family...he never let KD affect him to this extend...this love that make him give in to Suwarna's selfishness is making him weaker and more vulnerable day by day..destroying him more and more...Karthik who can see selfishness..is unable to see it now...because he is still same Karthik who wants to have his mother...

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Yourway

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Posted: 7 years ago

I feel Kartik's love for his mother doesn't justify her failing as a husband to Naira. For me Kartik isn't the same Kartik anymore, the one who used to be very logical in his approach to what is right and wrong, even when his other family members were concerned. He loves his Dadi as well but in previous instances whenever Naira and Dadi were at loggerheads, he managed both sides sensibly. His love for Dadi didn't mean he was going to be against Naira. Then why now? Just because of his overdramatic mother?? I understand that but still that love doesn't justify his failure as a husband for me. I am actually angry at Kartik this time.

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Posted: 7 years ago

[QUOTE=Yourway]I feel Kartik's love for his mother doesn't justify her failing as a husband to Naira. For me Kartik isn't the same Kartik anymore, the one who used to be very logical in his approach to what is right and wrong, even when his other family members were concerned. He loves his Dadi as well but in previous instances whenever Naira and Dadi were at loggerheads, he managed both sides sensibly. His love for Dadi didn't mean he was going to be against Naira. Then why now? Just because of his overdramatic mother?? I understand that but still that love doesn't justify his failure as a husband for me. I am actually angry at Kartik this time.[/QUOTES]

I really really agree with you .After marriage Karthik is completely different and every then and now he blames naira and now it's to show naira Giri to Karthik and his over dramatic mother.really cv's a beautiful story into senseless and heartbreaking one.i really want change for naira and freedom from that family.missing naira dadi in today's episode may be she will give back more .

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parvs

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Yourway
I feel Kartik's love for his mother doesn't justify her failing as a husband to Naira. For me Kartik isn't the same Kartik anymore, the one who used to be very logical in his approach to what is right and wrong, even when his other family members were concerned. He loves his Dadi as well but in previous instances whenever Naira and Dadi were at loggerheads, he managed both sides sensibly. His love for Dadi didn't mean he was going to be against Naira. Then why now? Just because of his overdramatic mother?? I understand that but still that love doesn't justify his failure as a husband for me. I am actually angry at Kartik this time.

totally agree with you... we get she your mom but that doesnt mean you forget how to treat other people or your other relations... for me it seems like kartik feels he has finally experienced a mothers love.. but its obviously the most unhealthiest relationship on this show currently... and i feel swarna is selfish... shes only doing this because kartik isnt her biological child... it was so easy for her to get kartik to stay away from naira... but when shubham wanted to marry a con-artist she went against her whole family for that because he was her biological son... i dont think she loves kartik... its all just fake to extract revenge from naira (for something naira didnt do)...

and really liked naitik for finally standing up for his daughter.. it was high time he did that... not everything that goes wrong is nairas fault... and if the rest of the goenkas really believed that they would have tried to make swarna understand... instead they egged on her pagalpan and let her continue torturing everyone

i really hope naira is the one who sends the divorce papers... and not kartik... saw some photos where he is signing papers and giving to naira... made me wonder if he is the one who initiated it going according to todays precap and one of the segments i saw yesterday where he was walking back in the goenka household with the whole clan... dont want it to be like kartik thinking to end the whole thing before he goes back to udaipur...

maybe this is where the whole 6 month living together thing comes into play... naira probably going back to udaipur as well... saw on ig where the actor playing tanvi posted something about it being her last day.. makes me wonder if naira is going back to "goenka villa"... i really wanted them to be on their own to sort through the whole divorce thing... but then i guess swarna cant be poisonous to naira

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AnyaRSingh

@AnyaRSingh

Dazzler

Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: CaptiveFreedom

@bold when parents are selfish...children take their own decisions..the way Karthik considered Manish and his family selfish...he lived away from them for his own sanity..than he made Singhanias his family...he never let KD affect him to this extend...this love that make him give in to Suwarna's selfishness is making him weaker and more vulnerable day by day..destroying him more and more...Karthik who can see selfishness..is unable to see it now...because he is still same Karthik who wants to have his mother...

I think in that situation he blamed manish for his mothers death it was different. despite once being close to him, he overlooked everything and hated manish...

In this situation he blamed naira...Considering how much he thinks she did for him...plus his anger with naira then it made his decision easy... To chose his mothers side over her...

Now that naira is in front of him. Even dow for the past two years he desperately tried to hate her and whatever he cannot stop himself from wanting her and loving her after seeing her.

Naira gives him peace.

He cannot lose his mother again. So even though she means so much to him, he will chose her over naira.

And i really dont see anything wrong in it.

Everyone loves their mothers

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AnyaRSingh

@AnyaRSingh

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Yourway
I feel Kartik's love for his mother doesn't justify her failing as a husband to Naira. For me Kartik isn't the same Kartik anymore, the one who used to be very logical in his approach to what is right and wrong, even when his other family members were concerned. He loves his Dadi as well but in previous instances whenever Naira and Dadi were at loggerheads, he managed both sides sensibly. His love for Dadi didn't mean he was going to be against Naira. Then why now? Just because of his overdramatic mother?? I understand that but still that love doesn't justify his failure as a husband for me. I am actually angry at Kartik this time.

I think todays episode really gave me a new light to kartik's character the pain in his every movement and every action was so visible. I dont think even naira will hold it against him what he did. Because u could see in every scene everyone spoke about how sick suvarana was and how kartik has done everything for the past two years to keep her happy and how dependent each has grown on each other.

He was a lost child. With dadi she never hung it over his head like sword either her or naira. Dadi has always been able to be a mother in a sense she excepted naira because she knew she made him happy. Suvarna on the other hand doesnt care what makes him happy. She is just on her own buzz. Unable to think about anything but herself.

Kartik will destroy himself to make her happy. Completely forgetting about how in destroying himself he is destroying naira.

She refused to see him and even said his not her son. Because he fell weak once in his resolve to keep naira away from himself.

Suvarna's character is so painful to watch...

Naira for me doesnt deserve this...Naira never deserved any of it. His anger, the way everyone behaved with her...None of it.

Naira choosing to leave him is not out of her finding her own self respect or anything. She wants to lessen his pain. She wants to help him, by making things easier for him. By never having to show up in front of his idiotic mother.

For me both characters are not wrong only suvarana is wrong

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CaptiveFreedom

@CaptiveFreedom

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Originally posted by: AnyaRSingh

I think in that situation he blamed manish for his mothers death it was different. despite once being close to him, he overlooked everything and hated manish...
In this situation he blamed naira...Considering how much he thinks she did for him...plus his anger with naira then it made his decision easy... To chose his mothers side over her...
Now that naira is in front of him. Even dow for the past two years he desperately tried to hate her and whatever he cannot stop himself from wanting her and loving her after seeing her.
Naira gives him peace.
He cannot lose his mother again. So even though she means so much to him, he will chose her over naira.
And i really dont see anything wrong in it.
Everyone loves their mothers

Yes those two situations are different and can't be compared...Karthik's pain and his turmoil him wanting to hold on to his mother can be understood...Momo's portrayal added lot more depth to Karthik's scenes...mother-son relationship despite of being the purest and unconditional...sometimes becomes conditional when one of them become selfish...seeing Suwarna another character comes to my mind...who was a very selfish mother...but still better than Suwarna...khair...despite of understanding Karthik...can't say he did right by choosing his mother...loving ur mother and encouraging her extreme hatred...letting her emotionally blackmail u and others...letting her break ur marriage...letting her decide for u leave aside u but letting her decide for ur wife's fate too is wrong...its better to get her treated...its better not to give in to her emotional blackmailing tactics.."u are not my son"...she need help...Karthik giving in...won't be helping her anyway...

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