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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: CaptiveFreedom


@bold Karthik lived the life of luxury? He got his family? He was sent to hostel when he was a child therefore his childhood was spent in hostel...After being adult he had to live away from his family...even after marriage he wanted to stay away from Mr. and Mrs. Goenka who were the reason behind his mother's death...when his character was introduced he wasn't introduced as a "Goenka"...despite of living in GV...he chose to live as PG in RajNani's home...and worked as an employee in Naitik's office...So, No Karthik wasn't living a life of luxury or a peaceful life with his family...But regardless of anything what Suwarna did was "wrong"...glorifying it as right was wrong...her sacrifice being termed right by any of Karthik Naira or Keerti isn't flaw in their characters but its a flaw in writing..."Nayi Soch" would be terming her sacrifice "Wrong" instead of making it appear right...


Yes he lived the life of luxury till he became independent n started earning ..Wasn't manish paying for his education , hostel and college ? If I am not wrong , when he was introduced , he was on a college trip...Hostel life is not equivalent to living in a village without amenities ..From his childhood he didn't want to stay with his family so he was sent to the hostel..its not like he "had" to live away from his family..that was his choice ...He didn't run away from his house living In Orphanage or roads ,..Yes , naira did it ...His life was not peaceful , fine ..But we can't compare his position to shubham..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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?@captive shubham 's character sketch is inconsistent , I agree but he is not showing extreme negativity towards his family except suvarna and kaira .. kaira and everyone who is in support of suvarna ..Lota throwing was just melodrama ..Irrelevant angles ..The issue needed to be dealt with sensitivity.. They are trying to make him look bad to glorify suvarna ..As u said bad writing..
Edited by _charu_ - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Meherya123

Irony is kartik and naira who themselves misunderstood their parents and naira who ran away from home with too much venom against akshara lecturing shubham.

I was rolling my eyes throughout.

I think the writers have run out of plot and running the show only to increase the number of episodes. No difference whatsoever left between ekta shows and yeh rishta.

Was expecting a kartik suwarna patch up in a way that wouldn't make anyone look mahaan or extremely goody goody type. But no they had to take this route messing up everything.
Also in the entire suwarna shubham fiasco i think suwarna's brother took all the money n gave shubham nothing. If they show him as a gold digger who brought up shubham the way he did story would probably take an interesting turn atleast for now.

I was slowly warming up to kaira but this track just ruined it for me. I agree lead character should shine but not at the expense of promoting what suwarna did.

Kaira misunderstood their parents. They never gave them a chance to speak. Now they find Shubham doing the same.They regret what they did and don't want him going through the same. There was a scene earlier where Kaira tell Shubham, that he does have a right to get angry, a right to question Suvarna but at least give her a chance and hear her out. They just want Shubham to give a chance for Suvarna to speak, so that he has no regret.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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The way this entire track has been handled is inhumane and disgusting. The way they are glorifying Suvarna to this degree, I'm absolutely gob-smacked! Devki sent away her son because she wanted to save him the fate of dying like her other children. Was Aryan's life in any danger? If suvarna was mahan as they claim her to be she would have taken on the challenge of being a mother to both the boys and building a legit family despite there being a 2nd child. The giving away of the child for Kartik's sake is BS reasoning. And they expect Aryan to accept such bullshit reasoning. And the way kaira are disregarding aryan's feelings entirely, I'm amazed at the hypocrisy. Didn't naira run away from her home and hated her mom for a mere misunderstanding? Now they can't even understand how legit Aryan's anger and reasoning is? And the way the goenkas are disregarding Aryan as the son of the family is so sad. Their priority in this situation should have been to introduce him as the second son of the family with pride, yet, he is shoved to the side for suvarna and manish's wedding anniversary. And his point of view is disregarded to somehow show supposive maa-beta love between suvarna and Kartik. This is definitely the most W*F track I've ever seen on yeh rishta, I'm surprised that CVs and writers in their right mind are doing this and even thinking that it's something reasonable. And the way goenkas are acting all embarrassed by Aryan in the party, even the so called mahan devi maa Survarna, they really should be ashamed of themselves. Why the heck did you give a party if you were going to be embarrassed by his presence? Honestly at this point, Aryan should leave this family behind. He would be way better off, but in no way is that going to happen, the writers need a villain since they have run out of a story so he is going to be their next scapegoat. 🤢
Edited by springkissed - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: springkissed

The way this entire track has been handled is inhumane and disgusting. The way they are glorifying Suvarna to this degree, I'm absolutely gob-smacked! Devki sent away her son because she wanted to save him the fate of dying like her other children. Was Aryan's life in any danger? If suvarna was mahan as they claim her to be she would have taken on the challenge of being a mother to both the boys and building a legit family despite there being a 2nd child. The giving away of the child for Kartik's sake is BS reasoning. And they expect Aryan to accept such bullshit reasoning. And the way kaira are disregarding aryan's feelings entirely, I'm amazed at the hypocrisy. Didn't naira run away from her home and hated her mom for a mere misunderstanding? Now they can't even understand how legit Aryan's anger and reasoning is? And the way the goenkas are disregarding Aryan as the son of the family is so sad. Their priority in this situation should have been to introduce him as the second son of the family with pride, yet, he is shoved to the side for suvarna and manish's wedding anniversary. And his point of view is disregarded to somehow show supposive maa-beta love between suvarna and Kartik. This is definitely the most W*F track I've ever seen on yeh rishta, I'm surprised that CVs and writers in their right mind are doing this and even thinking that it's something reasonable. And the way goenkas are acting all embarrassed by Aryan in the party, even the so called mahan devi maa Survarna, they really should be ashamed of themselves. Why the heck did you give a party if you were going to be embarrassed by his presence? Honestly at this point, Aryan should leave this family behind. He would be way better off, but in no way is that going to happen, the writers need a villain since they have run out of a story so he is going to be their next scapegoat. 🤢


👏 agree
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: springkissed

The way this entire track has been handled is inhumane and disgusting. The way they are glorifying Suvarna to this degree, I'm absolutely gob-smacked! Devki sent away her son because she wanted to save him the fate of dying like her other children. Was Aryan's life in any danger? If suvarna was mahan as they claim her to be she would have taken on the challenge of being a mother to both the boys and building a legit family despite there being a 2nd child. The giving away of the child for Kartik's sake is BS reasoning. And they expect Aryan to accept such bullshit reasoning. And the way kaira are disregarding aryan's feelings entirely, I'm amazed at the hypocrisy. Didn't naira run away from her home and hated her mom for a mere misunderstanding? Now they can't even understand how legit Aryan's anger and reasoning is? And the way the goenkas are disregarding Aryan as the son of the family is so sad. Their priority in this situation should have been to introduce him as the second son of the family with pride, yet, he is shoved to the side for suvarna and manish's wedding anniversary. And his point of view is disregarded to somehow show supposive maa-beta love between suvarna and Kartik. This is definitely the most W*F track I've ever seen on yeh rishta, I'm surprised that CVs and writers in their right mind are doing this and even thinking that it's something reasonable. And the way goenkas are acting all embarrassed by Aryan in the party, even the so called mahan devi maa Survarna, they really should be ashamed of themselves. Why the heck did you give a party if you were going to be embarrassed by his presence? Honestly at this point, Aryan should leave this family behind. He would be way better off, but in no way is that going to happen, the writers need a villain since they have run out of a story so he is going to be their next scapegoat. 🤢

anything that would make the show stay on air. Looks like the PH is desperate to have this show stay for eternity with the most W*F tracks possible. I really pity the actor playing shubham/aryan he is stuck real bad in this show🥱
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: janvi0513

Kaira misunderstood their parents. They never gave them a chance to speak. Now they find Shubham doing the same.They regret what they did and don't want him going through the same. There was a scene earlier where Kaira tell Shubham, that he does have a right to get angry, a right to question Suvarna but at least give her a chance and hear her out. They just want Shubham to give a chance for Suvarna to speak, so that he has no regret.

naira and kartik were never thrown away by their mothers.
Shubham has every right to.express his anger because he is the victim here. A perpetrator has no right to lecture victim and that's exactly what naira is doing . Naira doesn't want suwarna to understand shubham's pov instead she asked/gave a lecture/dictum to suwarna to be persistent in winning shubham back. Also goenkas are behaving real bad with shubham . Party for anniversary and treating a son like an insignificant dust particle. Wah!
Edited by Meherya123 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_

Very well analyzed ..

Acc to kaira the only mistake which suvarna did was , to keep manish in dark ..Seriously!! And they can act like brats with their parents,not try t o look to the other side of the coin for years and years but not anyone else can , even if they have a justifyble reason ..The whole scene was cringeworthy ..Specially with suvarna with her laughing and crying at the same time ..She is elated that kartik accepted her as a mother , does she feel slighty apologetic towards the other son ? Or does she care that this bitterness may have created a lifelong rift between the two brothers ? Now how is she and manish going to balance between the two , did she think ?


Firstly she is not devki or yashoda as claimed by the CVS..They were great characters and I hate the writers for this comparison ..She is more like kunti , even there the comparison is far fetched ..she had no other option but to give away her child .. she was at fault, if we analyze the story , .Kunti paid for her mistake when karna never accepted her and arjun killed karna ..Here there is no repentance whatsoever because mata suvarna did nothing wrong ...My reaction while watching the play was same as Aryans ...I liked him mocking the goenkas in the party ...His biological mother was unaffected though ..The son was dressed up as a joker and mom took inspiration from maine pyar kiya ka kabootar ..So much so when your life is a mess !!


Somewhere Aryans behavior is justified , instead of holding suvarna guilty , her deeds are being glorified and he is being asked to stand in the corner of the party else go upstairs ..


You are 100% correct. This mahaanta ki devi doesn't even realise in her joy of getting karthik's love and support, and crying over the family not being grateful to her for her sacrifice, she is unable to see the division she has created between her two sons. She's put up this sautela brother divide between them, and I really can't fault shobham in feeling that way about karthik when that is what his mother's actions have put into his head.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_


Yes he lived the life of luxury till he became independent n started earning ..Wasn't manish paying for his education , hostel and college ? If I am not wrong , when he was introduced , he was on a college trip...Hostel life is not equivalent to living in a village without amenities ..From his childhood he didn't want to stay with his family so he was sent to the hostel..its not like he "had" to live away from his family..that was his choice ...He didn't run away from his house living In Orphanage or roads ,..Yes , naira did it ...His life was not peaceful , fine ..But we can't compare his position to shubham..


Yeah! Manish sent away karthik for his good to a hostel where he received top notch education, and karthik himself chose to stay away from the family for years, much like naira. Even then, if someone can argue that karthik stayed away from the luxuries of his family, didn't he deprive himself also of the love of his family by staying away from them all just because of manish and suwarna alone? Even then his family would non-stop talk about him and shower him with love. Shobham got non of that.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: springkissed

The way this entire track has been handled is inhumane and disgusting. The way they are glorifying Suvarna to this degree, I'm absolutely gob-smacked! Devki sent away her son because she wanted to save him the fate of dying like her other children. Was Aryan's life in any danger? If suvarna was mahan as they claim her to be she would have taken on the challenge of being a mother to both the boys and building a legit family despite there being a 2nd child. The giving away of the child for Kartik's sake is BS reasoning. And they expect Aryan to accept such bullshit reasoning. And the way kaira are disregarding aryan's feelings entirely, I'm amazed at the hypocrisy. Didn't naira run away from her home and hated her mom for a mere misunderstanding? Now they can't even understand how legit Aryan's anger and reasoning is? And the way the goenkas are disregarding Aryan as the son of the family is so sad. Their priority in this situation should have been to introduce him as the second son of the family with pride, yet, he is shoved to the side for suvarna and manish's wedding anniversary. And his point of view is disregarded to somehow show supposive maa-beta love between suvarna and Kartik. This is definitely the most W*F track I've ever seen on yeh rishta, I'm surprised that CVs and writers in their right mind are doing this and even thinking that it's something reasonable. And the way goenkas are acting all embarrassed by Aryan in the party, even the so called mahan devi maa Survarna, they really should be ashamed of themselves. Why the heck did you give a party if you were going to be embarrassed by his presence? Honestly at this point, Aryan should leave this family behind. He would be way better off, but in no way is that going to happen, the writers need a villain since they have run out of a story so he is going to be their next scapegoat. 🤢


They will absolutely use aryan as a scapegoat and make him negative in order to make kaira and swarna look like angels. How is it that for the first time since kaira's entry, I can't stand it every single time they open their mouths? This track is making me heavily dislike kaira and swarna in an unhealthy way. They can make aryan evil now, but even then I'm not going to be stupid enough for to fall for the writer's tricks of trying to glorify the leads and swarna by demonising characters like shobham who have a valid reason to do what they are doing. I will always see where he is coming from even if the cv's try to make him more negative, and like another person commented, the actor playing aryan is stuck in this show so bad. I'm actually really enjoying him considering I found him annoying to see on screen during the time he was a servant at the house, but when he found out the truth about his parentage and his pain that followed made me feel for him and connect with him. I actually like his character now, although there are some people who just want him out of the show.

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