The play being used to justify swarna's so-called sacrifice

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Miss-Behave

@Miss-Behave

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Posted: 7 years ago

So I'm not hindu, so I do apologise if I get this wrong, but didn't devaki, who was imprisoned alongside her husband, give away lord krishna at birth to protect him from meeting the same fate of death at the hands of Kans that all the rest of devaki's babies did upon birth? If I'm correct, why are kaira using the story of krishna's birth and devaki's compulsion to protect her son as a means of justifying and explaining why swarna did what she did?

Swarna didn't give away her newborn son to protect him from imminent death as devaki did, but for a half-assed excuse of not wanting her husband's love to be split between his children. 😡

And they were trying to say that swarna is only being misunderstood because she didn't take permission of her husband before doing this, when devaki gave away krishna with her husband's support and consent. They have not even touched upon the main reason for swarna's stupid act; that she had no real reason to give her son away the way she did. She didn't HAVE to do it! 🤢

This shobham track is by far the worst track I have seen on indian tv, or at least one of the worst. Instead of trying to say that what swarna did was right, they could have instead handled this track better by making swarna realise that the decision she made was wrong despite her intentions being good, and show the family mad at her, but then realise that she had no ill intentions but made the mistake of doing injustice with her own son due to the dysfunctional relationships in the family.

All this track was about was making karthik accept swarna as a mother, and in an attempt to do that, they created this incomprehensible plot that glorified her mistake that she made out of emotional impulse and compulsion. this track should have been utilised to make everyone including swarna, karthik, dadi and manish realise where they had gone wrong since karthik's childhood up till now.

All the tracks that they had been building up till date, like mansi being revealed to be behind akshara's accident, aditya-keerti's abusive relationship revelation, the secret behind karthik's mother's death and now swarna's son track were all rushed, given unsatisfactory endings or handled abysmally. In fact, they never revealed why manish married swarna in the first place. It's only this track that has finally made me feel that they are running out of tracks to show, and now I already know that this secret that naira is hiding will just be something small and petty just like manish hiding about karthik's mother committing suicide due to mental illness and hiding the truth from him just because of a promise.

LOL! Looks like the writer's forgot the story of lord krishna's birth that they decided to implement it in this track for god knows what reason, when shobham's story has nothing to do with krishna's and neither did their births happen within the same circumstances.

Thankfully at least aryan showed akkal and reminded them of the part of the story that kaira refused to show just to make their own view sound right. But even then, this whole sequence was used to glorify karthik as a son. Why are the cv's making me dislike kaira so much in this track? I'm sorry for this rant guys, but for some reason, no track has annoyed me more than this one. I honestly feel terrible for aryan in all this, because for swarna it's all about karthik-manish-keerti. The woman was never even planning on telling the family about her having another son, and she made that clear to her brother when he tried to explain to her. All this seems to be about swarna just trying to be a mother to karthik and keerti. And nothing else.

Edited by sammy17 - 7 years ago

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CaptiveFreedom

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Posted: 7 years ago

I'm personally not disliking Kaira being on Suwarna's side as children no matter how much rude they have been with their parents but they can't tolerate anyone else be it their own sibling being rude to their parents...as simple as that...its most relatable atleast for me...Kaira only wanted to make him realize Suwarna's intentions...my problem is glorification of her sacrifice...which should be considered wrong...though Shubam's anger is justifiable but I disagree with his words and actions also she didn't throw him...she gave him to the safe hands...to the person who would raise him like his own son...I don't think Suwarna's brother ever ill-treated him...he raised him like his own kid...before being recognized as "Goenka" did Shubam complain for not getting love in his life? He only wanted luxuries...there is nothing wrong in that too...but when u weren't deprived of love...u can't say u were thrown...also Suwarna use to send money or gifts for Shubam...though they can't compensate for even a fraction of mother's love but he wasn't completely deprived of necessities of life or love...Suwarna was being unfair...the outcome of being unfair with ur kids can be seen through Shubam's actions and words...that's what they wanted to show...can't we see this aspect?...

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janvi0513

@janvi0513

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Posted: 7 years ago

Yes Devki gave away her child for his safety but in keeping Krishna safe there was the whole world's goodness and that is what the play tried to portray. During the play it was never spoken that Suvarna gave away Aryaan to protect him. It was about how Devki gave away her child for the world's welfare and how Suvarna gave away her child as she felt her decision was for the betterment of the family, it was this point that they wanted to connect, I guess, but yes I don't consider what Suvarna did as a sacrifice.

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ErisedWitch45

@ErisedWitch45

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Posted: 7 years ago

Thank you Sammy for the post!

I was cringing at the Devki-Suwarna comparison. Devki gave away Krishna because her brother (Kans) had killed 7 of her earlier sons while holding Devki and Vasudev (her husband) in prison. Devki gave away Krishna to protect him from death. The cvs were forcefully trying to make a half-baked conclusion about world's welfare. Umm no. Coz if Devki had not given Krishna, he would have been killed, as simple as that. So that argument makes 0 sense whatsoever!

I am glad Aryan pointed that out but since Aryan is not Kaira so we need to sympathize with Suwarna 🤢 Is Suwarna even remorseful for what she did to Aryan? Coz I think she is still justifying her "sacrifice."

I feel horrible for Manish who is being guilt-tripped into accepting that wretched woman back. yes, she is wretched. If roles were reversed and say Manish had falsely told Suwarna about a DEAD child, we would all be sympathising with her coz how can a person keep a child bereft of a mother. But what about a father? Is his pain and love not equal to a mother's? Manish had always been so supportive of Suwarna and has loved her, truly. Yet she goes ahead and puts him through his infant child's death. I dont know how can anyone justify this! It's cruel. It's inhumane.

In a movie, Interstellar, there is a dialogue - "No parent should have to watch their child die." The loss of a family member is horrible. But among that, the loss of a child for a parent is an ultimate tragedy. And imagine if your better half puts you through that.

I won't go into Aryan's side coz we have been discussing that since some time now. Suwarna is a crazy character. She is inhumane for what she put her child and husband through. Just coz she did it for Kartik, doesn't make it right, no matter how hard Kaira and team tries to whitewash it. It's not right. Period.

Such a horribly handled track. It makes most of the characters looks selfish.

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Miss-Behave

@Miss-Behave

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: ErisedWitch45
Thank you Sammy for the post!
I was cringing at the Devki-Suwarna comparison. Devki gave away Krishna because her brother (Kans) had killed 7 of her earlier sons while holding Devki and Vasudev (her husband) in prison. Devki gave away Krishna to protect him from death. The cvs were forcefully trying to make a half-baked conclusion about world's welfare. Umm no. Coz if Devki had not given Krishna, he would have been killed, as simple as that. So that argument makes 0 sense whatsoever!

I am glad Aryan pointed that out but since Aryan is not Kaira so we need to sympathize with Suwarna 🤢 Is Suwarna even remorseful for what she did to Aryan? Coz I think she is still justifying her "sacrifice."

I feel horrible for Manish who is being guilt-tripped into accepting that wretched woman back. yes, she is wretched. If roles were reversed and say Manish had falsely told Suwarna about a DEAD child, we would all be sympathising with her coz how can a person keep a child bereft of a mother. But what about a father? Is his pain and love not equal to a mother's? Manish had always been so supportive of Suwarna and has loved her, truly. Yet she goes ahead and puts him through his infant child's death. I dont know how can anyone justify this! It's cruel. It's inhumane.

In a movie, Interstellar, there is a dialogue - "No parent should have to watch their child die." The loss of a family member is horrible. But among that, the loss of a child for a parent is an ultimate tragedy. And imagine if your better half puts you through that.

I won't go into Aryan's side coz we have been discussing that since some time now. Suwarna is a crazy character. She is inhumane for what she put her child and husband through. Just coz she did it for Kartik, doesn't make it right, no matter how hard Kaira and team tries to whitewash it. It's not right. Period.

Such a horribly handled track. It makes most of the characters looks selfish.

Even when the writer's showed shobham putting across a very strong and valid point about why kaira's comparison of devaki and swarna's situation are nothing alike, the writers went ahead and ruined it by again by trying to put the scene in favour of making kaira look right, and swarna the misunderstood bechari.

Aryan on the other hand, yes he has greed for luxuries, but is that the one and true reason he is spiteful of karthik and hurt by swarna's actions? Nope. Technically, she did throw him away, because regardless of whether she dumped him in a bin, put him in an orphanage or gave him away to be raised by someone she knew and trusted him, she still disowned him and decided to act like she never gave birth to a son, which does mean she threw him away.

And even then, karthik here not only lived a life of luxury, but he was smothered with love by a big family. Aryan on the other hand was looked after just swarna's brother alone in a village, and didn't receive the love of a mother or a big family or any of the luxuries that karthik got, which aryan deserved equally. The truth is that any human in aryan's place, born into a big and rich family is disowned at birth by their birth mother in favour of their other sibling, and leads a small life with no such luxuries and not even a mother's love and just the love of one person would make someone bitter. Any other person would feel bitterness from being deprived of the life that karthik has when they know that life was also their equal right.

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Pooja

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Posted: 7 years ago

Irony is kartik and naira who themselves misunderstood their parents and naira who ran away from home with too much venom against akshara lecturing shubham.

I was rolling my eyes throughout.

I think the writers have run out of plot and running the show only to increase the number of episodes. No difference whatsoever left between ekta shows and yeh rishta.

Was expecting a kartik suwarna patch up in a way that wouldn't make anyone look mahaan or extremely goody goody type. But no they had to take this route messing up everything.

Also in the entire suwarna shubham fiasco i think suwarna's brother took all the money n gave shubham nothing. If they show him as a gold digger who brought up shubham the way he did story would probably take an interesting turn atleast for now.

I was slowly warming up to kaira but this track just ruined it for me. I agree lead character should shine but not at the expense of promoting what suwarna did.

Edited by Meherya123 - 7 years ago

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CaptiveFreedom

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: sammy17

Even when the writer's showed shobham putting across a very strong and valid point about why kaira's comparison of devaki and swarna's situation are nothing alike, the writers went ahead and ruined it by again by trying to put the scene in favour of making kaira look right, and swarna the misunderstood bechari.

Aryan on the other hand, yes he has greed for luxuries, but is that the one and true reason he is spiteful of karthik and hurt by swarna's actions? Nope. Technically, she did throw him away, because regardless of whether she dumped him in a bin, put him in an orphanage or gave him away to be raised by someone she knew and trusted him, she still disowned him and decided to act like she never gave birth to a son, which does mean she threw him away.

And even then, karthik here not only lived a life of luxury, but he was smothered with love by a big family. Aryan on the other hand was looked after just swarna's brother alone in a village, and didn't receive the love of a mother or a big family or any of the luxuries that karthik got, which aryan deserved equally. The truth is that any human in aryan's place, born into a big and rich family is disowned at birth by their birth mother in favour of their other sibling, and leads a small life with no such luxuries and not even a mother's love and just the love of one person would make someone bitter. Any other person would feel bitterness from being deprived of the life that karthik has when they know that life was also their equal right.

@bold Karthik lived the life of luxury? He got his family? He was sent to hostel when he was a child therefore his childhood was spent in hostel...After being adult he had to live away from his family...even after marriage he wanted to stay away from Mr. and Mrs. Goenka who were the reason behind his mother's death...when his character was introduced he wasn't introduced as a "Goenka"...despite of living in GV...he chose to live as PG in RajNani's home...and worked as an employee in Naitik's office...So, No Karthik wasn't living a life of luxury or a peaceful life with his family...But regardless of anything what Suwarna did was "wrong"...glorifying it as right was wrong...her sacrifice being termed right by any of Karthik Naira or Keerti isn't flaw in their characters but its a flaw in writing..."Nayi Soch" would be terming her sacrifice "Wrong" instead of making it appear right...

Edited by CaptiveFreedom - 7 years ago

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CaptiveFreedom

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Meherya123
Irony is kartik and naira who themselves misunderstood their parents and naira who ran away from home with too much venom against akshara lecturing shubham.
I was rolling my eyes throughout.

I think the writers have run out of plot and running the show only to increase the number of episodes. No difference whatsoever left between ekta shows and yeh rishta.

Was expecting a kartik suwarna patch up in a way that wouldn't make anyone look mahaan or extremely goody goody type. But no they had to take this route messing up everything.
Also in the entire suwarna shubham fiasco i think suwarna's brother took all the money n gave shubham nothing. If they show him as a gold digger who brought up shubham the way he did story would probably take an interesting turn atleast for now.

I was slowly warming up to kaira but this track just ruined it for me. I agree lead character should shine but not at the expense of promoting what suwarna did.

Karthik and Naira both had a misunderstanding regarding their parents...both were wrong...the moment that misunderstanding get cleared and they understood that they were wrong...they apologized...but here as Suwarna is wrong...I want her to apologize and make it upto Shubam...though the years he spent without mother can't be replaced...but still...she can try to compensate...atleast for present...Shubam's problem is self-sympathy...in that self-sympathy plus extreme negativity towards every single person of family he is appearing a weak character atleast to me...the vessel he threw towards Suwarna was a complete uncalled action...also he stopped contacting his father who raised him like his own child...these aspects are making his character appear shallower...

Edited by CaptiveFreedom - 7 years ago

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Charu

@Krinya

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Posted: 7 years ago

Very well analyzed ..

Acc to kaira the only mistake which suvarna did was , to keep manish in dark ..Seriously!! And they can act like brats with their parents,not try t o look to the other side of the coin for years and years but not anyone else can , even if they have a justifyble reason ..The whole scene was cringeworthy ..Specially with suvarna with her laughing and crying at the same time ..She is elated that kartik accepted her as a mother , does she feel slighty apologetic towards the other son ? Or does she care that this bitterness may have created a lifelong rift between the two brothers ? Now how is she and manish going to balance between the two , did she think ?

Firstly she is not devki or yashoda as claimed by the CVS..They were great characters and I hate the writers for this comparison ..She is more like kunti , even there the comparison is far fetched ..she had no other option but to give away her child .. she was at fault, if we analyze the story , .Kunti paid for her mistake when karna never accepted her and arjun killed karna ..Here there is no repentance whatsoever because mata suvarna did nothing wrong ...My reaction while watching the play was same as Aryans ...I liked him mocking the goenkas in the party ...His biological mother was unaffected though ..The son was dressed up as a joker and mom took inspiration from maine pyar kiya ka kabootar ..So much so when your life is a mess !!

Somewhere Aryans behavior is justified , instead of holding suvarna guilty , her deeds are being glorified and he is being asked to stand in the corner of the party else go upstairs ..

Edited by _charu_ - 7 years ago

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CaptiveFreedom

@CaptiveFreedom

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Originally posted by: _charu_
The whole scene was cringeworthy ..Specially with suvarna with her laughing and crying at the same time ..She is elated that kartik accepted her as a mother , does she feel slighty apologetic towards the other son ? Or does she care that this bitterness may have created a lifelong rift between the two brothers ? Now how is she and manish going to balance between the two , did she think ?

Firstly she is not devki or yashoda as claimed by the CVS...They were great characters and I hate the writers for this comparison ..S

Completely Agree with all these points...Suwarna is still not paying any heed to the son she sacrificed...she is unaffected by Shubam's presence...atleast apologize to him once...try to talk to him once...her character is by far the most unrealistic character...

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The play being used to justify swarna's so-called sacrifice

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