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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth

@ gutky

Thanks and a lovely post yourself.👏

I was looking forward to varying shades of reflection. But perhaps members are not stepping forward from the reserve' By the way, wishing you a very happy marriage befitting your dreams.👍🏼


@ smrth

Thanks a lot for ur wishes…😃 but I'm still studying my PG n i'm not engaged yet…… although the process for searching the groom have started… 😆 but I think every Indian women will relate to ur post from their hearts n so did i… Very good that you explain the symbolism behind the rituals. Ancient cultures are never stupid. Rituals connect us to deeper levels of the psyche, but only if there is something more than doing things for the sake of doing them.😊 Keep up the good work! 👍🏼

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: madhaviben

Smrth and Ranu. both of you did the brilliant work on the saptapadi. thank you for the lovely post. Ranu i like the 7th vachans discription about love.
Smrth i like the translation of all vachans. it reminded me my marrige. I personaly think the saptapadi the rasam by it self have special place in all the marrried couples. all the vachan make special imprint in the heart. as the couple move forward in their journey togather ,sometime that imprint fade because of the roughness in the path togather and some time circumstances make some scratches on the heart. but the togetherness always make life worth living . and the sapical memories and the saptapadi have that spacial bond and love which never let you down in the journey of marrige. the bonding become stroger as years pass by and one day person like me think . is that the same parsone i met one day who was stanger to me and now the same persone have special very special place in my heart . part of my life and only death make us a part. the caring for each other, the understanding between us growing day by day.and you reach the lavel where you can do anything to make that person happy . thats the one and only motto of your life. (i think i am talking about naitik? ). when ever i see anyone geting marrided its revind my memories about my saptapadi. biggest day of my life.😳

Here if we talk about naksh . they have the spacial bonding . but i think after nandinis wedding they changed akshara so much its some time hard to belive. CV needs to do something about it.

@ Madhaviben

That is what I intended-to initiate a relevant discussion on the course this serial taking and its deviation from the 'ideal they have set forth-at the same time, availing information on actual set of vows as requested by Polki_zofi. Renu's satire is an excellent comment on the crass incompetence that Cvs are hell bent on. May we have more such observations on other aspects…

"I personaly think the saptapadi the rasam by it self have special place in all the marrried couples. all the vachan make special imprint in the heart. as the couple move forward in their journey togather ,sometime that imprint fade because of the roughness in the path togather and some time circumstances make some scratches on the heart. but the togetherness always make life worth living ..."

"the saptapadi have that spacial bond and love which never let you down in the journey of marrige. the bonding become stroger as years pass by and one day person like me think . is that the same parsone i met one day who was stanger to me and now the same persone have special very special place in my heart . part of my life and only death make us a part. the caring for each other, the understanding between us growing day by day.and you reach the lavel where you can do anything to make that person happy ..."

Wonderful !!! 👏Polki_Zofi if you are reading, this is what they (the vows) aim. The result depends on how you practice it.

Madhviben, I completely agree with your take on character Akshara'And once again, the best comment post here'👏👏👏

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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ gutky,

May you find your Beau ideal!😉

I personally respect the meanings and intentions of some rituals, set by ancient seers. Though many a time they are endured only as a necessary drill not knowing what they (couple) are doing. And there is an opposing view too. Some fill the presence of chauvinist tone of patriarchal system, in form of heavier expectation from the bride … and yes, the credit for explanation source is due to Gardes.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ smrth.....😊

Hello !...Though I don't follow YRKKH regularly now, i cant help myself from returning to this forum time & again, for old times' sake....i have spent wonderful time here in the past, developed my writing skills here ( i was hitherto unaware of it, believe it or not 😆 ...i wrote an 11 part ff here 😳), n most importantly, have made the most wonderful friends here.......

...post Naksh marriage, from around Nov 2009, it was clear that the NEW creatives for YR, headed by mISS gARIMA dIMRI 🤡, were highly incompetent n had been PLAIN LUCKY to have gotten into the shoes of the old creatives 😎, who had come up with a mind-blowing concept & an endearing fresh lead pair, with their "OH SO SWEET SUGARY, DIPPED IN HONEY" kind of romance......I, along with many others had put up several posts requesting DKP to sack Miss Dimri, but DKP is known for its egoistic & stubborn stance .....

...As for your THIS POST, only one word.....FANTABULOUS......infact reading it in detail made me almost renew my marriage vows, u know 😆.....I think i should reveal to my husband who he needs to say thanks to......😃

cheers....👍🏼 👏

(ps- thanks for your lovely comments....😃 )







Edited by -renu- - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ renu
I identify with your feelings. I too watch it intermittently missing many links…I've been late entrant here, tentatively posting first time here, ( post titled 'Morning Light') at their Mahashivratri sparkle (and wasted that time too) during Nandini MU…Things are moving steadily downward…why won't they hire original talent if they were really wishing a fine product?!.. But market will take care…improve or vanish…interim, we can ridicule them to our heart's content…

( P.S. Have you not enforced other part of vows to be renewed too?!😉 After all It's your right…My better half wouldn't budge a step until I Lead her!😃)

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Posted: 14 years ago
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#smrth: Wow! I have been in PR forums too! I like that show too, I mean my sister in law likes it alot so I join in 😆!

By the way, wonderful thread you created! The thread have good views, perceptions, and thus wonderful contributions. You don't need to be a woman to enjoy drama or play or stories or even cartoons (I love cartoons and it is supposed to be a kid stuff 😆😉).

I think marriages which occur through love and trust should be a commitment not only for a life time, but in fact the whole life time should be spent in such a learning attitude that the soul can also stay together in the after life! I believe deeply in the afterlife, and the concept of soul mates.

Unfortunately these days, neither some women and nor many men realize how precious a marriage is, which is based on the foundations of love. This is the most basic thing in a human's life and soul. While food and shelter are necessary elements for our survival (to keep breathing), eventually they are just for a mortal body which is always subjected to decay. However, love is just as immortal as God (In the Bible, it is said that GOD IS LOVE). Without it, life on this planet or the other will always be a heavy one.

Time roughens and makes many things difficult. But if two people can become one in real terms, they can always be a better force than a lone man/woman walking the same path.

We all would reasonably have different views. We are all different people (and in my case, I am only recently learning anything about India), and thus in my own point of view, "love" is something you can fall in only "once" in life. I know in Europe/Poland many people have different concept which is fast being copied in India aswell. But many (increasingly) in our land can see how beautiful this concept of Love and marriage was. For example back in Poland these days there is nothing really called "marriage" and love in its most natural terms is something only found in books. However, people (youths) are increasingly in demand of something more stable, something more meaningful in life. Well balanced, and the true source of joy.

Me being a Catholic, have faith involved in it too. Also, many in my town, my country, have similar concepts.

Ofcourse, it becomes more difficult when you find the wrong person to lead your life with. Thus, better to be sure or atleast trust before you be with someone. In my case I hated any form of drinking (because my father, who I saw only a negligible times was a drunkard), I hate gamblers, and I love to avoid party animal people ... . I was fortunate to find one of the most simple, yet lovely person who had the better qualities in life. He did not earn much at that time, but was educated and sincere. Honest, soft spoken .... and he still is the same man. Someone I can rely on (in fact, that is him and me on my display image here 😊). I like Pavitra Rashta because I too lived in a 2 bedroom flat back in Lodz 😆, ofcourse later with his success in his business venture, we now have much better, but those factors were not and still are not primary. I was alive and I am still similarly alive ... my smiles and my peace is in our only biggest property, and that property is "The Heart".

There is no career, no ambition, no money or no future when the future lacks heart and soul! If we want everything in life, it is like trying to grab alot of sand very tightly in the hand, and eventually everything flows away! We can only have this much ... and it is a story of shared compromises, adjustments and devoted feelings distractingly towards each other.

If you can have the knowledge of love and the idea of how to handle it clear in your mind, then the journey of life is possible ... and those vows can really work too. If you cannot make up your mind on what should get priority (I mean, why you are actually earning, working for ...), then you have a difficult and confused life ahead, which is always a rush and never in any stability.

Whatever I wrote are things I learnt in my mind, and much from my Kochanie 😉 ... and it is a journey of learning forever.

I learn so much everyday ... and from here I learnt so much! You guyz are so gr8! ... I wish to learn more about India, and think on it ... to see it more closely and see how it can benefit a life to make it more beautiful to live 😊 (isn't that what should be our aim? ... to make life beautiful?).

As for Akshara ... she is a simple girl, as I once mentioned, with huge expectations on her. Only thing I wonder is why she don't let her husband have the greater priority in her life! Because it is him for whom she know all the people (her in laws), and without him no other relation have much of a meaning! If this is how she will distance herself from him ... then Naitik might deviate, and will it be such a surprise?

The in laws at her place don't make it any easier for her. Fine, this is her culture and she loves it (beyond my imagination, but OK!) ... still, I think her husband must take a front seat. What if he want separate living? Then will she blow him away with some step like "you go away, I'll stick with the family"!! In that case, maybe the man might conclude that "he did not get the right life partner"!

Does she give him time in bed? Also, what is wrong when such a nice man she is married to, she is still confused about her love with him 😆? ...

But the COLORS... songs ... dances ... they are the things really which keeps hypnotizing me.

Love u guyz ... I just wrote all what kept coming in my heart ... 😆 ... keep having fun!

I really look forward to some Colors in my own sister in laws many marriage related parties ahead. Already her friends, cousins ... we all sit and talk 😆😃 ... and many things are so funny ... but so cute too 😆😊😉 ....





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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ smrth thnxx 4 d fab postt.. well ma eng is ntt gudd 😆 bt still i try to write in eng in d post 😆
@renu dii luvv ur postt dats veryy funnyy 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ Polki_Zofi,

Perhaps, by heart you are more Indian, your being Slav by birth. We are not much aware about your country. Nearest, i.ve ever been to it was German border. Had known it as a bit unfortunate historically to have existed on schism of fault line bet'n two great and expansionist nations Prussia and Russia…which have obliterated it existence for almost a century and even later it was worst buffeted in WW2 bet'n two rivals. Though hardy nation, which has once acted as a bulwark against surging Islamic expansions and thus had secured Europe for Christian western civilization, has reasserted itself and doing well… So I was wondering your disposition towards understanding Indian system…where bond bet'n parents and children is expected to last life long. In Joint family, like Akshara's parents and married sons are living in a single household till their deaths, unlike western system of adult children moving out (and adopted here too by many now) after marriage. Both systems have advantages and disadvantages (perhaps beyond this post's scope). Hindu marriage unfolds in favour of former system and hence seven vows might be rendered somewhat inscrutable from western POV. But as one goes deeper, it actually stresses on two persons mutual bonding at its central theme.

I share your take on stability and substance through marriage. Akshara is in love with her husband, but shown preoccupied with other matters- cvs fault …their single dimensional portraits of too much responsible nature (unnatural) …and what we demand is correction there.

P.S. ( You two are looking lovely together…I too had some personal display initially here…then advised by a friend to remove personal images, this being an open forum…not that anything wrong here…just a suggestion…)

Take care.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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@smrth.. an absolutely awesum post.. not just the opening one.. but all the others as well..
renu di's post was as good as her earlier posts..
coming to the topic.. i just love the way marriages take place.. rite from the mehendi or sangeet to varmala rasam and the vows.. but sadly for me.. i hav never seen completely ceremony taking place in fron of my eyes.. because marriages of all my immediate relatives happened while i was just two-three years of age.. n now.. wen m old enuf to understand all these.. i can't go to marriages because of my studies.. n even if i go to attend marriages.. i cum back by 10 (just after the varmala rasam).. because they are not my immediate relatives.. n since pheras take place late in the nite.. there's no point me staying there.. that is why.. the concept of saptapadi is very new to me.. though your post provided me a lot of knowledge.. still.. i guess these things cum only by experience.. n from wat i hav gathered over the years.. i feel marriage is the most beautiful thing that can happen to u.. yes.. for a girl itz a little difficult.. considering the fact that she has to leave everythng that was her's for years for just one man.. but.. i guess it is all just worth it.. the inner joy that it gives can't be expressed (can it be??)
but nevertheless.. cuming to akshara.. 3 tyms.. she has taken these vows and still.. she tends to forget them.. i sumtyms pity her.. seeing that she has got the most adorable husband anyone can ever get.. she doesn't even acknowledge him..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Kaumudi,

Where were you?

We had some nice discussions here... But perhaps too grave for the mood in the forum…😆😆

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