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Posted: 8 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Doc.love

Haan yaar... hes a mahaan atma.. but even when he said to rami that he will give his own land and not the haq land of the sisters, he was actually tensed and there was no land of his alone that he could give... 😕 Shayad humare Mukhiji itne bhi ameer nahi hain jitne serial mien shuru mien bataye gaye thay.. 😲
I really want him to get back his 1crore 40 lakhs that he lost to the nanavati sisters... 😕
Lagta hai Ramiben ki baaton ka asar mujh per bhi hogya hai! 😛😆



i think mukhi ji father did mutual understanding in this bro&sis about all there properties&money but no Batwara. so that's means mukhi ji has 4th part of all katara properties etc. and he already gave so much from his part.so may be now he don't have that much money etc.

i always saying mukhi ji ke paas khud ka sirf Jangiya,Dhoti,Chamoo,Dulari &his Ajeeb Shoes and Aru's Diary bas baki kuch nahi hai😆

1.cro 40lak money will back soon when D devi will enter.

konsa Ashar? wo bhi Rami ka?😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Spartan187

https://www.makaan.com/iq/legal-taxes-laws/what-are-property-rights-of-daughters-in-hufs

I am not familiar with the batwara rules in India but after reading this, it says that daughters after they are married or unmarried didn't have the same rights as sons in batwara and it was only after 2005 that they obtained the same rights. So the father has to have died after 2005 for the daughters to have te same rights as the son, if he dies before, then the son still has control to do what he wants.

In terms of the show, i think there's a reason he doesn't want batwara for Rami, did you notice how easily he was going to give land for Mishri's in-laws, i think his gut is telling him not to trust Rami, he heard her talking when she was high on bhang and how she reacted to Lalji when he was caught so maybe he is thinking she has ulterior purposes...maybe there's something with her being Mishri's mom that complicates things


Heyy Spartan! I think we are communicating for the first time here.. 😊 Nice to meet you. 😊
your points are valid too.
This article says,"A coparcener (not any member) can file a suit demanding partition of the coparcenary property but not a member. Thus, the daughter, as a coparcener, can now demand the partition of her father's property."
It means that Rami has this right to ask for batwaara if she wants. 🤔 Because its their inherited property, not Mukhiji's only.
I sincerely hope Mukhiji remembers his confusion on Rami's remarks and he does make the calculative guess that Rami is actually quite Harami... (Pardon my saying so, but it rhymed so well! 🤣)
So far even Aru hasnt told him that she saw Lalji in Rami's room on the day of Mishri's sangeet. Apparently Aru and Mukhi have goldfish memories. They just keep forgetting the important stuff! 😵😛
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -RadhaRani-



i think mukhi ji father did mutual understanding in this bro&sis about all there properties&money but no Batwara. so that's means mukhi ji has 4th part of all katara properties etc. and he already gave so much from his part.so may be now he don't have that much money etc.

i always saying mukhi ji ke paas khud ka sirf Jangiya,Dhoti,Chamoo,Dulari &his Ajeeb Shoes and Aru's Diary bas baki kuch nahi hai😆

1.cro 40lak money will back soon when D devi will enter.

konsa Ashar? wo bhi Rami ka?😆

Mukhiji saray ke saray mujhe pasand hain, qabul bhi hain...mager bass i dont like his boots!!! 🤢
I pray to God that he decides to change his boots soon...
Haan yar, yeh Mukhiji saving kerne walon mien se lagte nahi hain.. 😛 But nevermind...sab accha hoga in the show! 👍🏼

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Posted: 8 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: Doc.love



Mukhiji saray ke saray mujhe pasand hain, qabul bhi hain...mager bass i dont like his boots!!! 🤢
I pray to God that he decides to change his boots soon...
Haan yar, yeh Mukhiji saving kerne walon mien se lagte nahi hain.. 😛 But nevermind...sab accha hoga in the show! 👍🏼


u have to accept his baas maarte huve Ajeeb shoes first then he will beyour under control😆
he will not change for him that shoes is his proud 🤔😆

he never waste money but yes if someone need help he always be daanveer for that matter.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -RadhaRani-


u have to accept his baas maarte huve Ajeeb shoes first then he will beyour under control😆
he will not change for him that shoes is his proud 🤔😆

he never waste money but yes if someone need help he always be daanveer for that matter.

🤣🤣 You know i always get this feeling that those boots are not only ugly looking, but they are smelly too, for sure!!!!! I always say this to Dushturain also... 😆😆 Aj you also said this... 😆😆
Yea he doesnt waste money as he is zameen se jurra admi... but daanveerta aur mahaanta mien bhi tou sab se aagay haina humare Mukhiji!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Doc- Radha Raani 🤣 you guys are hilarious ;))

Those boots surely are inherited from his burkhos😆 They give him a certain sockless je ne sais quoi :)))))) and of course NO ONE in their right mind would even think about stealing those!

usska bhi batwara hoga jaroor (thats the only way perhaps we see the end of them ) but more importantly Rami ben harami is dying to get into Mukhi bhais shoes so I think they should go to her
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovetocomment

Doc- Radha Raani 🤣 you guys are hilarious ;))

Those boots surely are inherited from his burkhos😆 They give him a certain sockless je ne sais quoi :)))))) and of course NO ONE in their right mind would even think about stealing those!

usska bhi batwara hoga jaroor (thats the only way perhaps we see the end of them ) but more importantly Rami ben harami is dying to get into Mukhi bhais shoes so I think they should go to her
Jane

🤣
Ramiben tou gayo!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Doc

as you say

🤣
Ramiben tou gayo!

AND
In the end, it doesn't even matter!

Sachci mein :))))
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovetocomment

Doc

as you say

🤣
Ramiben tou gayo!

AND
In the end, it doesn't even matter!

Sachci mein :))))

"In the end" is a song i relate to the most. So i love it a lot... And this is true. In the end, nothing matters as such... 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Spartan187

https://www.makaan.com/iq/legal-taxes-laws/what-are-property-rights-of-daughters-in-hufs

I am not familiar with the batwara rules in India but after reading this, it says that daughters after they are married or unmarried didn't have the same rights as sons in batwara and it was only after 2005 that they obtained the same rights. So the father has to have died after 2005 for the daughters to have te same rights as the son, if he dies before, then the son still has control to do what he wants.

In terms of the show, i think there's a reason he doesn't want batwara for Rami, did you notice how easily he was going to give land for Mishri's in-laws, i think his gut is telling him not to trust Rami, he heard her talking when she was high on bhang and how she reacted to Lalji when he was caught so maybe he is thinking she has ulterior purposes...maybe there's something with her being Mishri's mom that complicates things



Doc.Love I don't know how I missed this post!! May be for the title...I did not know what was it talking about inside. Anyway, have read through the whole and I found this one as a piece of gem! For now, I would just be elaborating about the batwara (partition) rules in terms of how Wally puts it.
In India, among Hindus, we understand property in two categories: - 1.) Joint Family Property 2.) Separate Property. The changes that Wally very rightly pointed out above has happened in 2005 with reference to the Hindu Joint Family Property. No changes have happened in the case of separate property...so, the position laid down in 1956 in the Hindu Succession Act remains. If the lands, haveli, factory etc. in Amboli belonged to Mukhi's father as his separate property (in the sense, that he built the entire empire himself) then all the children...including daughters (married or unmarried) are entitled to equal shares...doesn't matter when (before or after 2005) he died. So, the property in any case is to be divided between all the 4 siblings and that too equally!!! Let us presume, the 2nd situation...that is if the property was a Joint Family or Ancestral Property (i.e. if Mukhi's father and his brothers set up the empire together). In such cases, now after 2005 females/daughters have become coparceners (Sahbhaagi) along with the sons and have the right to own property including immovable property on their own. This is exactly how the Hindu Business Families in India run...like the Ambanis etc. So, here Mishri is entitled as a coparcener (since she was unmarried at the relevant time)...however, Rami, Uma, Mukhiji himself as well as Mishri...are entitled to receive equal shares as the successors to the father's estate. So, Mukhi and Mishri...receive more shares as successors as well as coparceners...but Raami and Uma...get as successors only. So, basically, Raami has all the right and entitlement over her limited share on the property. This discrepancy between the son and the daughter was done away with in 2005.
In India, what happens is, Lands, Houses etc. bring in an emotional attachment and therefore talking about Batwara or the very thought of separating these from oneself is a difficult decision emotionally.
However, I would have been very happy if Mukhi proceeded with Batwara...because he would have done the right thing, legally as well as morally. Raami has the title over her share. Secondly, I find it extremely demeaning when the makers always show the villains, vamps or uncaring son or rude daughter-in-law in the shows demanding 'partition'...as if they are trying to break a family and its bonds. Everyone has a right over the joint family property by being related to each other by blood or adoption. Why is it shown to be such a big deal?? Just because of such a negative perception, many married girls in India, do not demand a share in her father's property...in favour of her brother...she believes in giving up her share in the name of her brother...so as not to ruin good relations with her brother and his family...as for a married woman in India (after the parents) its only the male sibling that can be considered her roots or remind her of her Maayka. So, she is conditioned to play this moralistic ideal card and made to sacrifice..something that just belongs to her... in the name of preserving the ties with her brothers. I really think, instead of concentrating on giving dowry...the society in general and the TV shows in particular must be shown to be concentrating on equal property rights of the girl child (Show the correct legal position). I appeal to everyone, including the CVs...not to portray Batwaara as something villainous...or as something destroying families. It is there to give equal rights to everyone in the family. Once again Lovely Lovely Post!!👏👏

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