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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovetocomment

Wally

HAHAAHA - with that line from Maine pyaar kiya resounding in my ears I say that firstly when you form a friendship with someone- male or female there will always be many qualities that draw you to them, whether it be appearance, kindness, humour, intelligence etc not if you are going to score or not. From you male perspective from what you are saying, I think can see where u are coming from lekinnn gender stereotypes (as in man will only want one thing from you-I can hear my mums words in my ears :)))) have moved on faster than the food from Lalji's plate. Women and Men can be friends and I have many male friends, they would stick by me through thick and thin as I would them regardless of our martial status as we friendsss we don't expect anything from each other we just are:)))
Jane.



Lol, I am glad you have male friends, but again, i stated two situations where men and women can be friends, one if they are childhood friends, and two if there's no attraction between one of the parties in the friendship, which is great for you that your male friends see you as one of the guys and have no attraction towards you.

There are always exceptions to any "rule", something as complex as gender stereotype is never going to be black and white, but it is majority or minority, and i do believe the majority of men/women can only rarely be purely platonic friends

I hope they have all 3 develop the type of relationship Debashri and you stated she has with her buddy and his wife, to me you can have a good relationship with Saanvi, and ArMu but they all need to be on same page, so I would like the CV's to have Saanvi and Aru become closer and then team up to bug Mukhi, he needs people to keep him young at heart and alive, he has been too serious for far too long and Aru also needs a friend in Amboli
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Agree Wally.I want to se Saanvi & Aru become good friends, a deep bond like sisters.For a change Mukhi should be shown jealous .It will be hillarious to watch Mukhi jelous of Aru & Saanvi's friendship & make dukhi Mukhi face. 🤣
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Agree Wally.I want to se Saanvi & Aru become good friends, a deep bond like sisters.For a change Mukhi should be shown jealous .It will be hillarious to watch Mukhi jelous of Aru & Saanvi's friendship & make dukhi Mukhi face. 🤣



What is up with all you sadistic women lol, poor mukhi doesn't even have a few minutes of sukhi and you all want him to get dukhi, poor man, no happiness in his kismet 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Spartan187




What is up with all you sadistic women lol, poor mukhi doesn't even have a few minutes of sukhi and you all want him to get dukhi, poor man, no happiness in his kismet😆

😆 😆 😆 One jealous Dukhi Mukhi scene wont hurt 😉
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi Spartan

A very well written realistic post. I agree with many of your points here and also mentioned in my post on Jalpari's thread that I don't really blame others to view their relationship with some apprehension. You are right... after marriage many things change. Why only with girls, even 2 guys who are best friends also go through the same thing when one of them gets married. This is a regular course and general progression in life and one should not try to fight it. I did not like this jealousyvtrack for the same reason because first, it was too clichd and secondly the the CVs are unknowingly casting Aru in a negative light. And this is a complete lose-lose situation for both the parties. Mukhi would not like if Aru had a male friend who calls her in the middle of the night. He won't understand of Aru's male friend came and showed off that no one knows Aru better than him.

Having said that, we still don't know what their back story is. Saanvi so far is a positive character and hopefully that won't change. Let's see what the CVs dish out to us.

Take care
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Posted: 8 years ago
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What more can I say? It was a nifty post about a man/women and jealousy!! I am so glad we have one male, very good analyst on this forum. I have say one think Wally I always have to print your reviews and consider my time and read it because of work you can't sit and read for a long time and after reading make comments!!
Ok, now I have to add also about that late night call from Sanvi, it was never right for me?? And I said in another post also doesn't matter how close you're and different cultures or... cos I am in the States for a long time and so it's maybe different, but not much a different than in our country in this kind issues, ok people can say Sanvi needs him to talk/comfort or share something but that affair can be the different time NOT middle of the night?? She recognizes that her Raju is married and a big issue occurs on his birthday with her do what in the world she calls him??? I will ingest it if that was an emergency needs help doctors or do not sit and holding each other that's a no no for me!!!
Now men and women friendships I do accord with you, but it's different how each of us see things, have to mention my husband has childhood female friends and they are close and they are very good friends and I now know them and never had a problem, the reason is my hubby share everything with me he tells about those friends and I am ok with that, but Aru don't know anything about them besides they are childhood/good BFF! And exactly that moment our great vamp Rami just bang on her mind with her nasty act!!! You mention in Amboli Aru don't have anyone, no friends to share or speak about her feelings or more.
Thanks again buddy, we'll definitely be back!! Truly enjoyed your writing, keep writing and write more often!!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Spartan187

Loved your comments Debashri, but see you are forgetting one thing that you have done which is what allows you to be his friend still...and that is you are also friends with his wife, you have sat and included her as part of your friendship, you and her are in fact almost like sisters ganging up on him and that's exactly my point though, that you do understand the evolution of your friendship with your friend.
You have become not only his friend, but hers as well, so there's no room for mistrust or miscommunication. But this may be a tricky question to ask your friend though, ask him was he ever attracted to you or thought of you that way, and then lets see what the answer is. To me, if your relationship and his is as great as you say, i don't think then he may have ever thought of you that way and that's my point, only then could it ever be a platonic friendship right?

My post is about that fact, that in the majority of cases, guys and girls can't be friends cuz attraction occurs at some point, mentally even, and often times a woman can be friends with a guy, but can a guy be friends with a woman is the debate...and in your case you have a wonderful healthy open friendship with not just him but his wife, so you have found that perfect balance, one hopefully ArMu and Saanvi can establish :)


Bingo...thats the point friends..and you have zeroed on it correctly Wally...its "including" the friends spouse and making her a friend as well, not letting her be an outside person to the friendship.
If Saanvi brought her pregnancy issues to Aru and if Mukhi would have informed Aru of his the reasons for midnight visit, the equation would have balanced out much earlier.
However, its a drama story and the wife in those situations..Aru was still not Mukhi's wife in his mind. So he didn't bother to explain. The day he explained to her in the hut, to me it was evident now he considers her his wife.
Saanvi on the other hand, should have always included Aru for the simple reason that she saw that Aru has fallen for Mukhi. Instead of only helping Mukhi with his feelings, would have been nice to see her sitting with both Aru Mukhi and talking it out. But of course this is a show and they wanted to get Aru jealous enough and give her some reasons for misbehavior so that Mukhi gets angry enough to drop her back..
This jealousy track was only meant for Aru Mukhi to know how they feel about each other. Its not a reflection of how ideal real life friendships after marriage should be handled.

Wally and Debashri, thanks for such a deep perspective from both the sides. Wally, special thanks for being so frank regarding how male minds work. And Debashri kudos to the special friends in your life and for the way you include their wives in your friendship!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I'm best friends with a guy and no feelings between us ...he's Gay and my shopping buddy ...

I had feelings for my friend but we weren't best friends and we ended up married
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Wally! You start a new discussion and like Tshaheen says I need to print it out and think about it when time permits.

Your take that this male female friendship does not happen sounds too general. But when you add the sister wali friendship and the partner inclusive friendship, it does sound true. I had to think of all my friends and their friends to say what all others are saying here - that until marriage it does exist, but after marriage, the spouse needs to be included, not as a compulsion.


In Deb's case, I really appreciate the friendship and take my hats off to the wife too for accepting their friendship. And I must add that once such a friendship sets in, it is so beautiful because u just cross over the gender border and become only friends. You get such a different perspective on matters that you could not have thought about. Deb, you are really lucky.


In India, I notice there is an invisible barrier that does not allow that attraction to come between friends. Its like a 'don't go there' kind of thing is mutually understood. And it becomes a part of the friendship 'not to go there' and then becomes very comfortable relationship with the attraction out of the equation. Wally, you are saying that it is never out of the equation where guys are concerned. Well then, I can only say that my male friends have been acting very well for so many years. Then again, who are we to generalize.


Saanvi calling in the middle of the night is a debate on its own. It was not an outright emergency. She did not have a miscarriage... but... we don't know her back story. I still think that she is in love with someone that Mukhi respects. There is so much more that we don't know. But going by all that she has been advising Mukhi, and the relief on knowing Aru is the diary girl, she does seem a true friend.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sanakan15

I'm best friends with a guy and no feelings between us ...he's Gay and my shopping buddy ...

I had feelings for my friend but we weren't best friends and we ended up married


Lol, your examples are so perfect 😆 Absolutely no question about attraction with your best friend and the "friend" you had an attraction for, you wind up married, which is exactly my point, attraction usually occurs between opposite sex friends, its natural, not saying always but often times, especially for men it does.

Glad you have both as part of ur life :)

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