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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: paagalbandar

I feel like why is it that anyone has to prove their love...male/female...it should not be that way...Also we can not expect men to behave like women...men are men; and women are women...whether we like to accept it or not...I feel not just Naina, Sameer also has right to express how he feels...because he is a man, he will express it differently than Naina...Can you imagine, Sameer crying like Naina, and going Naina tum ne yeh kya kiya, tumne mere bare mein ek baar bhi nahin socha...no its not possible...yes men are aggressive, and they are bullheads at times...but I feel they do have feelings too...It is just that the way they express their emotions are different than girls...I remember I talked to my hubby about this...and he said, you girls can talk to each other...you can go and tell your parents if something is bothering you...but for us men, we have no way of showing our emotions because men are expected to be strong, macho, the bread earner of the house etc...he said, "if a women doesn't work, its okay right?" imagine a men who doesn't earn and feed his wife...imagine what kind of taunts he has to face...He says only way we have learned to express our feelings from childhood is by being either irritated, or being angry...we are not allowed to express like you girls even if we wanted tooo...we will be called sissys's or nithala, nikama etc...so we bottle up our emotions and we just burst everytime we face something difficult...it doesn't mean we don't love people in our life, but that is how we are raised to think...and I do agree, society is as cruel to men as it is to women...women try to justify their life and hardships they face, and men try to do the same for men...however, no one tries to understand the other side, and this is life...

I think how Sam behaved was justified...he did not think before he spoke, quite normal for an angry person...even I don't think when I speak when I am angry...and I think it goes for all of us...but at the end of the day, he did go to get her...so no I don't think he is wrong...and no matter love or arranged marriage, every person in a new situation or new household, has to expect some adjustments...I did and so did my hubby, and we had love marriage...just because one gets love marriage, doesn't mean you can expect your hubby to hover around you at all times...he also has responsibilities, and things to do...

We all promise each other prior to marriage...why?? because responsibilities have not hit us yet...but when you actually get married, you realize that you are responsible for each other, and that changes things...for naina to expect to Sam to be there for her on first day of marriage, I think its a bit too filmy...it doesn't happen in real life...so along with Sam, Naina has lot of growing up to do as well...both are immature...


Exactly what adjustment do you think Sameer did apart from apologizing for getting up in afternoon...
They are couple since 5 years who talk and share there issues, feelings with each other and know each other in and out... then why this difference?

My husband always supported me for everything from the moment I stepped in.
I used to ask him for help and he reached out to his mom/sis because among so many relatives it was not possible for me to ask inlaws for help finding anything or draping a saree

My father and husband both believe that its girl who leaves her home and enters a new territory and initially she is on scale so she needs all the support... its much easier for men as in shaadi they are pampered from both the families...

I would have never forgotten if my hubby told to not enter the house or stay at parents place in any circumstance or anger...
According to me Sameer needs to realize he is married and the house belongs to Naina too... There is a line which should never be crossed even in anger



Edited by myprimechicago - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: paagalbandar

I feel like why is it that anyone has to prove their love...male/female...it should not be that way...Also we can not expect men to behave like women...men are men; and women are women...whether we like to accept it or not...I feel not just Naina, Sameer also has right to express how he feels...because he is a man, he will express it differently than Naina...Can you imagine, Sameer crying like Naina, and going Naina tum ne yeh kya kiya, tumne mere bare mein ek baar bhi nahin socha...no its not possible...yes men are aggressive, and they are bullheads at times...but I feel they do have feelings too...It is just that the way they express their emotions are different than girls...I remember I talked to my hubby about this...and he said, you girls can talk to each other...you can go and tell your parents if something is bothering you...but for us men, we have no way of showing our emotions because men are expected to be strong, macho, the bread earner of the house etc...he said, "if a women doesn't work, its okay right?" imagine a men who doesn't earn and feed his wife...imagine what kind of taunts he has to face...He says only way we have learned to express our feelings from childhood is by being either irritated, or being angry...we are not allowed to express like you girls even if we wanted tooo...we will be called sissys's or nithala, nikama etc...so we bottle up our emotions and we just burst everytime we face something difficult...it doesn't mean we don't love people in our life, but that is how we are raised to think...and I do agree, society is as cruel to men as it is to women...women try to justify their life and hardships they face, and men try to do the same for men...however, no one tries to understand the other side, and this is life...

I think how Sam behaved was justified...he did not think before he spoke, quite normal for an angry person...even I don't think when I speak when I am angry...and I think it goes for all of us...but at the end of the day, he did go to get her...so no I don't think he is wrong...and no matter love or arranged marriage, every person in a new situation or new household, has to expect some adjustments...I did and so did my hubby, and we had love marriage...just because one gets love marriage, doesn't mean you can expect your hubby to hover around you at all times...he also has responsibilities, and things to do...

We all promise each other prior to marriage...why?? because responsibilities have not hit us yet...but when you actually get married, you realize that you are responsible for each other, and that changes things...for naina to expect Sam to be there for her on first day of marriage, I think its a bit too filmy...it doesn't happen in real life...so along with Sam, Naina has lot of growing up to do as well...both are immature...


Just becayse we have accepted no this is not possible, no this is how it has been since ages, doesn't mean it is right. Men do have the right to express their feelings, and to cry as well. Just becayse theyve criticised for doing so doesn't mean that this criticism is right and those men who express are wrong.

Similarly just because men have been alone shouldering finances since agesdoesnt mean it should continue . believe both husband and wife should share the finances.

This statement that no one tries to understand the othee side coz thiilis life , does that mean one shouldn't even attempt to understand the other side?

Marriagdefinitely requires adjustments from both sides. And one definitely cantc expect the spiuse to hover around 247. But CantC I ecen expect this much from my husband to protect my respect in public ratgee than walking away?
Moreover the person here in question is Sameer. SomeknS who has fought tooth and nail to let this marriage happen. Definitely such behavior is not expected frkm him.

And if you fee his anger is justified, then Ill say, yes hehe can feel angry. But leaving your wife to public humiliation , constantly hurting her at her weakest points, to the extent that she feels unworthy of you and you don'stop till she cries , if you feel all this is justified, then I am sorry have nothing more to say. Because no wife or husband deserves such treatment at the hands of their spouse. 😊
& It's better if they grow out Of this soon.

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Edited by sharvyo - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Very well written dear.its so true men always do things and never realize they hurt the women pretty badly. It has always been different rules for men and women. We always talk about women empowerment, equality. It never happens I believe men are always men and think they can do anything and escape. So many people on the forum said sameer didn't know about hair problem before hand and was shocked, so he reacted like it. Why did he stood up for her in the halwa fiasco coz he did a mistake there and was guilty about it. See naina was hurt so badly she has her insecurities coz sameer is more handsome compared to her beauty. He was supposed to stand with her even when he was angry at her hair fiasco. Nobody in that house would support naina coz of love marriage she became so lonely at that point when even sameer got angry with her.forget about love marriage even in arranged marriage you always want your husband with you though your in-laws like you.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Its not look my darling its power. If woman are powerful they also treat man like the way man treat woman. But the sad thing is due to our social and religious tradition woman are always deprived from property. Vishaka for example is a rich girl. She should get all her father's property. But her father donated the house to mama...but nothing for Vishaka. In this condition she has to marry a jackass like Bobby. Obey his every demand. Leave her child behind and till now treated like a slave. Her own son's wedding and she doesn't have the power to say "I want to stay with my son now." At this stage of life after serving and sacrificing her entire life for that moron Bobby and his ungrateful mother when she protested for the first time ...that guy pushed her so hard that if Sameer was not there she could have a major injury. Her position is like a dog in this man's house. Her father could save her...but no. Gave a house to other's son "mama" but his own daughter is homeless. Getting dhakka even in this age. I felt more effected by this than Samanina.

Naina is not a "pari". But Vishaka is pretty, no one calls her bad looking. So do you still believe its look. No Dear...its not look. Its power. Power of money.
Edited by jhalak7 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Sameer's present action or not taking Naina home-

He is just out from his house. He saw how Bobby misbehaved with his mom and it is he who know everything wrong that guy did with his mom. I am so glad that he raised his voice. He should throw that bag out through the window...but Okay he dumped that in front of his face and threatened him if he dare misbehaves with his mom.

I don't think only Naina is in his mind at this situation. Most probably there is a bigger cause. He will make a war against Bobby's dynasty when he will be back at home. I will love it if he does. He bought a house. Excellent work . 👏 Bring moma home as he has a family now and he and his family( Naina ) needs Vishaka. I think he is also going through trouble.

Naina has no idea what the hidden war going inside Sameer's house nor he shared anything about today's fight. I think he doesn't want Naina to know what is going in there...and that is why he wants to keep her safe in her house. Or else Sameer who was so despo to get a kiss and SR night with Naina...don't think leave her there for a silly reason like hair. I hope he is not that moron.
Edited by jhalak7 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Nice post!
Nainas outburst made him realise that she was very hurt...liked that scene very much
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: jhalak7

Sameer's present action or not taking Naina home-

He is just out from his house. He saw how Bobby misbehaved with his mom and it is he who know everything wrong that guy did with his mom. I am so glad that he raised his voice. He should throw that bag out through the window...but Okay he dumped that in front of his face and threatened him if he dare misbehaves with his mom.

I don't think only Naina is in his mind at this situation. Most probably there is a bigger cause. He will make a war against Bobby's dynasty when he will be back at home. I will love it if he does. He bought a house. Excellent work . 👏 Bring moma home as he has a family now and he and his family( Naina ) needs Vishaka. I think he is also going through trouble.

Naina has no idea what the hidden war going inside Sameer's house nor he shared anything about today's fight. I think he doesn't want Naina to know what is going in there...and that is why he wants to keep her safe in her house. Or else Sameer who was so despo to get a kiss and SR night with Naina...don't think leave her there for a silly reason like hair. I hope he is not that moron.


Dear Bobby fight scene was much later...
Sameer called beautician and found nothing could be done for hair and so declared in his ego that Naina won't enter this house until her hair are fixed... she will rather stay in Chachaji's house in those hair,,,

Also even after Bobby's fight he is not being serious about it but being a child he is complaining to Chachaji for her mangalsutra to get his revenge
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: myprimechicago


Also even after Bobby's fight he is not being serious about it but being a child he is complaining to Chachaji for her mangalsutra to get his revenge


Its not revenge actually. In between the time of Wedding and SR night almost all the man show attitude to wify...for a specific reason...😉 😳 The more the guy shows anger the more they fight and that makes SR night special. 😉 Sameer was smiling while Naina was getting angry. Today her teary eyes will melt him down I guess. Although I want a fight...so that Naina makes him angrier and as a result we could get a very notorious SR night. 😳😳

But if he is doing this for mom...I will like it. He is a man now. Should save his mom.

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