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Posted: 8 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r

@red - Yes krishy, not to forget, the people who wanted me and fellow members too be infertile, claimed they are mothers to kids too... So they themselves had not experienced it, how do they know the pain? 😕.Just like how they understand infertility, we also understand about infertility. We don't have to experience it personally. And for records, I have also mentioned a couple of personal experiences in my close quarters about infertility, for which again I was mocked at in a different thread by the same people.[/DIV]

The irony is people claim that Raman is abusive, he called out names to Ishita indicating her infertility and all that. Heck, Raman is just a fictional character Krishy. What are these people doing in real life? Calling out others and wanting them to be Bhaanj? Then can we call them as abusive, and inhumane?. Fair enough? 😊.

Anyways, Krishy, leave it.. We can neither express fairness with respect to the show nor do people try and understand both sides and pass a fair remark. Just leave and ignore. But I repeat, I'm glad that you raised this point, atleast now and I see nothing wrong or unhealthy about it.😊



The irony is they don't realize just who amongst them may actually be dealing with infertility. I never thought of it like you said but it hurts me even more now because of personal factors. I don't want to pass judgement or wishes on someone on the basis of a fictional show not do I want to seek to mock another's view. I have said it before I don't understand personally in my POV what's enjoyable about a show with a character that one finds abhorable & want to understand that. I still occasionally catch episodes of YHM for glimpses of my YHM but I KNOW neither the Raman nor ishita we grew to love is coming back but I'll watch out of memory of what was for just what entertains me.

And i don't think any one will read this bc we are the wrong ones now and I especially for ruining this atmosphere that was already brewing with toxicity by voicing my hurt and concern.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: -K.13-


Excuse me but the minutest details of Ishita's mistakes? I think not...you praise people when they just call Raman out but even yesterday came to defend Ishita when there was a role she played in the mess. If we are biased, so are you. I never see you calling out Ishita. Just because her errors are smaller in comparison, they do play a role in the mess that is made on the show.

I have tried to stay out of it, but some of the "people" you are discussing don't just call out Ishita and all hail praise Raman. I can go and site post after post of these people discussing when Raman is wrong. Additionally did any of them every state they are unbaised? In fact is is often YOU who praises and complains of bias in others...without acknowledging stuff in yourself. These people are tired of the hypocrisy where only certain people with FL leaning posts are labeled as unbaised but when some people make posts criticizing both leads acts - they are Raman loving, Ishita hating freaks of nature.

Unlike you and others, for some there is no joy in simply and constantly demonizing one character constantly. Raman is wrong about 80% of the time and Ishita about 65% of the time to different degrees and both warrant discussion. Yet we said one thing about Ishita yesterday and bam we are biased...yet you haven't waited for this episode to air or cited the discussions of how Raman was wrong in the confrontation when Ishita slapped him.

I don't see how we are crucifying Ishita only. We neither discuss her in vulgar terms like some on IF discuss Raman and people give her the benefit of the doubt also.

I don't even know why I am responding to you, but to target some of the people you are right now is something I disagree with. I don't include myself because hell I've said it time and time again - I don't buy this pathetic attempt at the CVs to make janwaar and suffering FL - it's a cheap track that clearly brings in viewers because look at hwo much IF activity increases when Raman is a jerk...so maybe they are catering to the right mentality.

bang on krishyyy👏👏👏 cant agree more
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Posted: 8 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r


Very well said Krishy.👏👏👏. Cannot agree more. You are bang on with each word you wrote and they are nothing but truth. Appreciate you for this. 👍🏼.
@red - I'm so very glad that you pointed out this clearly. Because many a times I wonder if I wrote what I saw or something else was shown. You have spoken my mind clearly. Love you for that.

But as you pointed out, Unfortunately, that is how the forum works. There is no use talking about it over here. Sheer waste of time and energy. 🥱.
And yep krishy, I was one of those who was praised and blessed because I wrote what I felt was right on those episodes - that of Raman being completely wrong. I was termed as unbiased. Note, I did not term it myself. 😊. People were generous enough to grace the thread and praise me. But the moment I start pointing a small mistake against Ishita, people don't even want to make their alternate views in the thread. Rather they go to other threads and term us a hypocrites and what not..😆. In one day, from Raman's mistake to Ishita's mistake, makes me a hypocrite from a balanced reviewer. How funny it is? Khair. The fact is I attach least importance to such comments, but I am glad that you voiced out, it was long due... I have had enough of these remarks and taunts. The show, the forum everything is a big disappointment these days.

Thank you again for standing up for all of us, voicing out your view against this constant remarks, mocking & sarcasm made against all of us, whenever we try to put across a view against Ishita. 😛

very well said priya ben👏👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
#44
@ Kristy & Priya there HVE been posts mocking my words too & indirect mocking after reading d posts on other thread & mocking in other threads too it has happened yest & day before yest & in d past as well though I don't want to point out names.. I HVE seen ppl using bad words & tags recently for mani as well mocking by d views of ppl abt mani made long back like sanskari etc etc in very post.


There HVE always been posts scolding ishita ,mani & other characters wen they r wrong but wen Raman is wrong ppl instead of saying Raman is wrong & scold him they start blaming d cvs for butchering Raman my point is why d difference either blame & scold d cvs for every mistake done by any character ex: wen mani committed mistakes by supporting shagun none of them who used to blame cvs for butchering Raman said that they butchered mani's character immediately ppl started mocking ppl who said Raman doesn't deserve ishita post leap wen he was continuously hurling abuses & insulting her & burnt all marriage pics & proposed shagun.. ppl started mocking d words which ppl had written in support of mani which is also wrong na. Even u didn't point out that instead of mocking d view of ppl abt mani made in d past & using them for supporting Raman they shud just point out mani's mistakes..


So wat I HVE concluded is wen we post our views openly abt any character we shud b ready for the mocking & criticism & take it lightly & not feel bad as that is bound to happen this is fr me as well but really not personal attacking which u had experienced with infertility comment that is wrong none shud do personal attcking for a fictional character..

Just my views sorry if any of my comments had offended u & Krishy these r just my views abt d mocking issues..

And Krishy I would like to say that ur post was not unhealthy according to me since U had quoted on my post I respect ur opinion & also pointing out my mistakes as well coz I feel one can have a healthy friendship only wen we point out others mistakes & don't get offended by that.. Argument,difference of opinions r part of any relationship & truly respect that too. In d future too u r free to voice ur opinion & point out if I'm being biased in my views as well. I hope even u won't mind me doing d same on ur posts if I feel bad or HVE a different POV abt ur views
Edited by snehaseshan - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Sneha - Foremost, I hope you are feeling better today and the pain is reduced.
I thought we agreed yesterday with each other that when you feel offended by any of our views and feel that your views are mocked, you will voice it out then and there right? If you still feel people mocked you in yesterday's thread, I feel you should have raised it.

When we have not passed harsh comments on each other and no problem interacting in a thread, then please go ahead and raise your view. But, there was no drama in yesterday's episode. it was all fun and still if you find any of our views have hurt you, please voice it out, unless you do not want to comment in the thread, Otherwise, people who genuinely want to correct their part might not know it at all Sneha.. That's my point. Also, I would appreciate if you drop in to our discussion thread and post your comments on daily basis & point everyone's mistakes, rather than staying away on all days and dropping in to say a word only when you feel Raman is wrong. That would be fair, because after all we have not signed up for the show only to speak in favor of only one character :- Ishita or Raman, right?

I really did not want to make an issue out of it yesterday in your thread Sneha. But it just that yesterday, it went overboard when nasty remarks were passed about having a hearty laugh, advocating and what not... If you have noticed, no opinions favoring Raman were even passed then. Your comments hurt us as well. So it just turned out that both of us decided to voice it out for the same comments. Because even we feel hurt for constantly termed as being biased, how much ever we try to understand the POV of all characters. I still cannot forget and forgive when people went personal and wished me to suffer and all. There has to a boundary and it is only good, people stay within those . Otherwise, none are interested to barge in to other territories, when it is pretty clear that the opinions would always be different and there can never be a healthy discussion, no matter what. We also prefer to stay away completely from such views. Since you were the topic maker, you also raised a point & since we have always had a discussion about such differences, I preferred to voice it out. Hope you understand.😊.

It is good to know that you also felt that our discussion and comments were not unhealthy. Thank you.😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Amazed to see people bashing Raman 😆 YES, he is wrong but didn't IshRu stop him from telling the truth earlier. Now, he is already facing Hatred from his daughter (a daughter for whom he went crazy whereas the ehole family including ishita was busy mocking him, supporting mani n ofcors Alu n adi love was forming) the one who was most affected was Raman, so definitely at first he will hesitate.
I m sure Ishu will make him understand, anyway his emotions never holds any value he has to do everything he is asked by Ishita, doesn't matter if he supports it or not.
Both IshRa r equal, they become selfish for themself, its just that few people hates the Person playing it n starts bashing him at a drop of a hat. Wonder how can one watch a show by hating another lead so much, TALENT I SEE 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r

@Sneha - Foremost, I hope you are feeling better today and the pain is reduced.

I thought we agreed yesterday with each other that when you feel offended by any of our views and feel that your views are mocked, you will voice it out then and there right? If you still feel people mocked you in yesterday's thread, I feel you should have raised it.

When we have not passed harsh comments on each other and no problem interacting in a thread, then please go ahead and raise your view. But, there was no drama in yesterday's episode. it was all fun and still if you find any of our views have hurt you, please voice it out, unless you do not want to comment in the thread, Otherwise, people who genuinely want to correct their part might not know it at all Sneha.. That's my point. Also, I would appreciate if you drop in to our discussion thread and post your comments on daily basis & point everyone's mistakes, rather than staying away on all days and dropping in to say a word only when you feel Raman is wrong. That would be fair, because after all we have not signed up for the show only to speak in favor of only one character :- Ishita or Raman, right?

I really did not want to make an issue out of it yesterday in your thread Sneha. But it just that yesterday, it went overboard when nasty remarks were passed about having a hearty laugh, advocating and what not... If you have noticed, no opinions favoring Raman were even passed then. Your comments hurt us as well. So it just turned out that both of us decided to voice it out for the same comments. Because even we feel hurt for constantly termed as being biased, how much ever we try to understand the POV of all characters. I still cannot forget and forgive when people went personal and wished me to suffer and all. There has to a boundary and it is only good, people stay within those . Otherwise, none are interested to barge in to other territories, when it is pretty clear that the opinions would always be different and there can never be a healthy discussion, no matter what. We also prefer to stay away completely from such views. Since you were the topic maker, you also raised a point & since we have always had a discussion about such differences, I preferred to voice it out. Hope you understand.😊.

It is good to know that you also felt that our discussion and comments were not unhealthy. Thank you.😊


Priya I accept that I HVE not been regularly giving my views abt d episode daily & HVE made it wen Raman has made mistakes but there r many reasons for that one is I don't know wen my pain flair up some days it's minimal some days it's pathetic which forces me to stop typing so that's y I don't post regularly but another reason is I cannot tolerate verbal abuse which Raman has always been doing it pre leap & post leap so wen Raman does it immaterial of my health I post my views as I HVE knowm Ppl like Raman who use anger as an excuse to abuse their wife so I get more furious wen that is shown in d show which forces me to express my displeasure didn't know it would HVE given a wrong impression to ppl that I'm a Raman basher so henceforth will make sure that doesn't happen .

Yes yesterday's epi was so light hearted no drama & I loved it... it was a stress buster for pain relief for my yest pain

@red

But u HVE not Told ur views abt mocking,quoting words & mocking of others views abt other characters mani & blaming d characters wen ishita & mani makes mistakes & blame cvs for butcher Raman wen Raman does mistakes etc which has happened in d daily thread:


There HVE always been posts scolding ishita ,mani & other characters wen they r wrong but wen Raman is wrong ppl instead of saying Raman is wrong & scold him they start blaming d cvs for butchering Raman my point is why d difference either blame & scold d cvs for every mistake done by any character ex: wen mani committed mistakes by supporting shagun none of them who used to blame cvs for butchering Raman said that they butchered mani's character immediately ppl started mocking ppl who said Raman doesn't deserve ishita post leap wen he was continuously hurling abuses & insulting her & burnt all marriage pics & proposed shagun.. ppl started mocking d words which ppl had written in support of mani which is also wrong na. Even u didn't point out that instead of mocking d view of ppl abt mani made in d past & using them for supporting Raman they shud just point out mani's mistakes,like u do wen ppl quote ur words & mock & u reacted on mocking abt being biased coz it's not only ishita,Raman mocking of views abt other characters is also wrong right.
I hope u HVE also noticed these comments moments & posts which I HVE mentioned above as u r a regular on IF

Edited by snehaseshan - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#48
I agree. Adulteress Ishita should only be with her sugar daddy mentally unstable Mani. Problem solved.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: -CasKett-

I agree. Adulteress Ishita should only be with her sugar daddy mentally unstable Mani. Problem solved.

tu chodh ishra ko...r u watching kawach ...hottest jodhi 😳😳😉
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet.Aman

tu chodh ishra ko...r u watching kawach ...hottest jodhi 😳😳😉


Aman tu bhi na funny girl😆😆

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