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Posted: 8 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: snehaseshan


I'm glad that u shared ur views without keeping it to ur self & henceforth if I make any comments abt d show il make sure dat it doesn't hurt ppl & as Krishy said il openly tell my displeasure if something happens which I didn't like..

But for few days I HVE decided not to comment & be a silent reader so that my hands can also get rest & also I don't HVE to see ppl mocking my quotes like it happened yest & today


Sneha, first take care of your health. Nothing is more important than that. This is just a fictional show and at the end of the day, we have our personal lives and work to do. This show is not going to do any favor. It is just an entertainment.
I guess, I have also told you earlier the same point that Krishy said :- I don't think people in that discussion thread, are going to object if you are having a different opinion and you are welcome to make a post. Right? At times it has happened that some of us did not have the same opinion as that of few others. You very well know that. I don't really think people had a problem, when we pointed it out. So yes, you are always welcome to point out your thoughts on the episode. I also feel that if there was a different POV, people had taken it up to genuinely have a discussion with you and put forth their points. At times we have agreed, at times we have agreed to disagree. Right?

Regarding you wanting to comment or not, is your individual opinion. Yes, with respect to health I would say yes. But with respect to your preferences, you are the best judge. And one more thing :- You are welcome to point out, if you feel you were offended by any comments. I did so today with your comment, because I genuinely felt it has to be sorted out with you. Thanks for taking time to reply. Otherwise, I don't even bother to initiate a conversation, if I don't feel the need to explain the other person. So chill. Take care of your health again.😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: -K.13-


Excuse me but the minutest details of Ishita's mistakes? I think not...you praise people when they just call Raman out but even yesterday came to defend Ishita when there was a role she played in the mess. If we are biased, so are you. I never see you calling out Ishita. Just because her errors are smaller in comparison, they do play a role in the mess that is made on the show.

I have tried to stay out of it, but some of the "people" you are discussing don't just call out Ishita and all hail praise Raman. I can go and site post after post of these people discussing when Raman is wrong. Additionally did any of them every state they are unbaised? In fact is is often YOU who praises and complains of bias in others...without acknowledging stuff in yourself. These people are tired of the hypocrisy where only certain people with FL leaning posts are labeled as unbaised but when some people make posts criticizing both leads acts - they are Raman loving, Ishita hating freaks of nature.

Unlike you and others, for some there is no joy in simply and constantly demonizing one character constantly. Raman is wrong about 80% of the time and Ishita about 65% of the time to different degrees and both warrant discussion. Yet we said one thing about Ishita yesterday and bam we are biased...yet you haven't waited for this episode to air or cited the discussions of how Raman was wrong in the confrontation when Ishita slapped him.

I don't see how we are crucifying Ishita only. We neither discuss her in vulgar terms like some on IF discuss Raman and people give her the benefit of the doubt also.

I don't even know why I am responding to you, but to target some of the people you are right now is something I disagree with. I don't include myself because hell I've said it time and time again - I don't buy this pathetic attempt at the CVs to make janwaar and suffering FL - it's a cheap track that clearly brings in viewers because look at hwo much IF activity increases when Raman is a jerk...so maybe they are catering to the right mentality.


What difference does the post in reply has with the original post Krishy? Sorry if I have missed the context here but it really surprise me to see that statement from you.

Who are those 'others' here and how well one can know to comment about what is the joy for others . These kind of statements are not healthy at all.




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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi Sneha,
I am really appalled when I saw the segment now😡

What the hell the makers are writing Pihu is a seven year old kid and she is learning the art of bribing at this tender age😡 what the hell they want to show that Shagun can do whatever she wants to do to spoil a kid and no one question her because she kept the kid in the womb for 9 months and raised for 7 years. I agree to the womb part but did not the Bhalla/Raman contribute in raising Pihu in the seven years or the makers want to show only Shagun did all the hard work of raising a kid that it feeding her, changing her, cooking for her, teaching her. I have no words for them🤬

I don't like the segment at all. Ishita at least wants to say the truth now because Pihu ways are getting from bad to worse. Raman is right when the truth comes out Pihu might go both ways she might change for the better or she might behave more bratty but both IshRa are failing to understand that they cannot hide the truth forever.

I wish he gave different reason for not divulging the truth to Pihu because it looks like he is more worried about Pihu hating him than being worried about Pihu going down the wrong path because if he is worried about Pihu he will take the 50% chance like he did with Adi in the accident case and tell the truth to Pihu that Ishita is the mother.


Edited by mayasundar - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: mayasundar

Hi Sneha,

I am really appalled when I saw the segment now😡

What the hell the makers are writing Pihu is a seven year old kid and she is learning the art of bribing at this tender age😡 what the hell they want to show that Shagun can do whatever she wants to do to spoil a kid and no one question her because she kept the kid in the womb for 9 months and raised for 7 years. I agree to the womb part but did not the Bhalla/Raman contribute in raising Pihu in the seven years or the makers want to show only Shagun did all the hard work of raising a kid that it feeding her, changing her, cooking for her, teaching her. I have no words for them🤬

I don't like the segment at all. Ishita at least wants to say the truth now because Pihu ways are getting from bad to worse. Raman is right when the truth comes out Pihu might go both ways she might change for the better or she might behave more bratty but both IshRa are failing to understand that they cannot hide the truth forever.

I wish he gave different reason for not divulging the truth to Pihu because it looks like he is more worried about Pihu hating him than being worried about Pihu going down the wrong path because if he is worried about Pihu he will take the 50% chance like he did with Adi in the accident case and tell the truth to Pihu that Ishita is the mother.


Maya absolutely loved it.. as you said it's better to take 50% chance with Pihu where she may end up hating Raman instead of letting her go in the wrong path. Raman should start thinking beyond himself for Pihu's well being and not look at Ishita asking the truth to be revealed in a bad light. If he really cared for Ishita and Pihu instead of himself at least partial truth might have been exposed to Pihu when things were half decent in Bhallas house with Pihu.. but Raman being Raman did what's good for him..
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Posted: 8 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: ishrafan_us


Maya absolutely loved it.. as you said it's better to take 50% chance with Pihu where she may end up hating Raman instead of letting her go in the wrong path. Raman should start thinking beyond himself for Pihu's well being and not look at Ishita asking the truth to be revealed in a bad light. If he really cared for Ishita and Pihu instead of himself at least partial truth might have been exposed to Pihu when things were half decent in Bhallas house with Pihu.. but Raman being Raman did what's good for him..


Tfs sneha
@ Raji @ Maya
I agree with you guys
It's better to rescue her now.. before it gets way out of hand/ control
Yes she's gonna throw tantrums...she will eventually come around. If he doesn't the step now.. he's gonna blame himself for her state.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#36
One thing I want to say about the disgust about Raman for not wanting to tell the truth to Pihu now. There are some differences in the situation when Ishita decided not to tell the truth and now when Raman decided not to tell the truth.


What I felt disgusted mostly is he is thinking about himself only.
When Ishita stopped him to tell the truth to Pihu...
1. she thought of everyone including Pihu and Raman. She thought of the hatred for both of them and family.
2. Pihu was not that much worse in going in the wrong path.
3. Pihu still hated Ishita so much ..

When Raman is stopping to tell the truth to Pihu..
1. he is thinking of himself only, as he can't bear the hatred of the kid. Wow.. where is Ishita in this if he claims that he loves her. Seems like his claim is as empty as he is. Where is Pihu's future in his thought? Don't know what is in the episode. .it may be detailed, it may have Pihu in his thought. But, his this statement made is clear that Ishita doesn't mean anything to him so if she gets hatred from her kid.. doesn't matter to him. Only thing matters is he, himself, his peace, his life. Period..
2. Pihu is going totally wrong day by day. She is applying crime tactics day by day. Isn't that alarming? And, isn't it better to make her know about the truth so that she can at least come away from the wrong paths? She may hate everyone. But, may be she will hate Shagun too for not telling the truth. Isn't that good actually?
3. Pihu hates Ishita more than anything that she may end up saying that why this aunty doesn't die!!!

If people ignore to see these differences and support selfish Raman in his selfishness in destroying Pihu's life forever, I have nothing more to say. I have seen in other thread that if Ishita was right then not telling the truth, Raman too is right. Really!! Dude.. see the context and then equalize the actions.
Edited by DivianTanz_Divz - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#37
Forall the discussions that have been going on since yesterday,the cvs will dampen the whole situation by making ishu accept raman's words.
Create more crappy drama with this.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: dreamzsrk


What difference does the post in reply has with the original post Krishy? Sorry if I have missed the context here but it really surprise me to see that statement from you.

Who are those 'others' here and how well one can know to comment about what is the joy for others . These kind of statements are not healthy at all.





Hi Uma,

Hope you are doing good. 😊. Sorry to budge in Uma... I know these discussions are getting nowhere and nothing would change in the forum. But still, can you please go through all the posts that were made in the first couple of pages of this thread and the comments that were posted in the other UMT thread yesterday? You would better understand, who started this all, which is irrelevant to the topic that was made, how people started throwing in ugly statements about people coming in to support Raman. There were lot of sarcasm, taunt involved, when none of us, even supported Raman at that point of time, when Krishy's post was made.

It is very clear that Krishy was just replying to what Sneha has mentioned about being "biased" as we were scrutinizing Ishita's mistake and letting go Raman's mistake with excuses? I really don't know if you have read our review thread. I don't think we take sides always and let go of Raman's mistakes and magnify Ishita's mistakes. Hence, I don't find anything irrelevant in what Krishy wrote because it was a direct reply to what Sneha has mentioned about biasedness. I hope you got the context now. We have clarified that with Sneha as well.

Regarding others, yes there were people who made great mockery out of our posts, when we tried to defend Raman's POV through his expressions and body languages, post leap. Many instances can be cited, but precisely during Ishita's trauma when Ruhi rejected her. There were comments after comments in some threads, which went on mock us to a greater extent about reading expressions from Raman's eyes, lips and what not? Well, if you do not agree, as they claim, ignore and stay way. Why read and go to another thread and pass nasty comments about reading from lips, face, eyes and all? 😕I know you were also around the forum at that time. Had you questioned about this at that time and said these are not healthy, I would have appreciated you.

Then, my personal experience :- When I said that both Ishita and Raman are at fault for what happened before 7 years and they are responsible for the state of the children and both should own up to letting know the truth, the same people taunted me by passing a comment that I had to be in Ishita's position, precisely a Bhaanj or people surrounding me should have gone through it to understand the pain of Ishita. I even explicitly mentioned about it multiple times in the threads, saying I was hurt with these comments. I would have appreciated, if you have made a remark that these comments were unhealthy at that point of time and stood up for us. Because I feel that no woman deserve such a wish from another unrelated woman, who is just a fellow member, to be a bhaanj in real life, for the sake of a fictional character. That was quite ugly and in very bad taste.

And there were a few members, whom I did not even know at that point of time and even till now, I have not interacted much with them, but they came forward and PMed me that they went through the same bullying even pre-leap during the surrogacy and child swap track from the same people. So if people can want others to be bhaanj and go through pain of Ishita, mock about our comments, we have waited long enough to put across our POV.

Krishy was referring to those members precisely as "others". I'm sure they themselves would understand.😊 .
I would really appreciate, if people like you , understand both the sides and then comment on whether it was healthy are not. I guess, there is nothing wrong in expressing our disappointment and hurt of this constant cornering. We are not here to take these name calling, curses & insults from unrelated people. We are also not blind DT worshipers or KP worshipers to take sides for the respective characters always. We have gone past that age and matured, educated and in a well to do position, that we don't have to earn a living by singing praise of DT and KP. 😊 .After all they are just actors and it is their profession to act. We are just fans of their stupendous acting. The point ends there. No Didi, JiJu, Bhaiya, Bhabhi stuffs and nonsense with us. Hmmm.

Of all, Krishy is not the one to come forward and put across such a strong point. She did so because, we have heard a lot of unhealthy stuffs all these months, before voicing out. Nothing against Sneha though.

Anyways, sorry for budging in. I'm sorry if I have offended through any of my statements. I hope you understand my point. I just explained the hurt that I and others, went through from some people, who happen to constantly taunt, pass unhealthy remarks & even wish bad for others, if people don't support Ishita, no matter what.😊. Thanks for taking time out to read Uma.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: dreamzsrk



What difference does the post in reply has with the original post Krishy? Sorry if I have missed the context here but it really surprise me to see that statement from you.

Who are those 'others' here and how well one can know to comment about what is the joy for others . These kind of statements are not healthy at all.






Well Uma - I saw a comment here about bias and another comment about laughing at people trying to understand Raman's POV on various issues.

It VERY much applies here because time and one again people throw around this bias and unbiased tag to belittle people & here even before words are said to mock and denegrate - words are thrown out attacking people expressing their views

so why is MY statement unhealthy when members of group has mocked, ridiculed, and even told someone they hope they experience infertility? Even in THIS thread someone implied watching and mocking the excuses/views people come up with. Why am I not allowed to voice my concern for THAT unhealthy talk? I stay away from the threads that illicit such reactions in me, but these segment update threads are open for all & I reacted

I have been indirectly mocked and hurt too on this forum time and time and my morality brought into question. This thread had comments that touched on this and after months I finally reacted & honestly I don't applologize.

If some find joy in just constantly scrutinizing and demonizing Raman - fine but why are my posts & posts of my peers labeled as biased for not following that perspective?

Khair I am apparently the loser here who tried to voice my concerns but I'm not sorry.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -K.13-



Well Uma - I saw a comment here about bias and another comment about laughing at people trying to understand Raman's POV on various issues.

It VERY much applies here because time and one again people throw around this bias and unbiased tag to belittle people & here even before words are said to mock and denegrate - words are thrown out attacking people expressing their views

so why is MY statement unhealthy when members of group has mocked, ridiculed, and even told someone they hope they experience infertility? Even in THIS thread someone implied watching and mocking the excuses/views people come up with. Why am I not allowed to voice my concern for THAT unhealthy talk? I stay away from the threads that illicit such reactions in me, but these segment update threads are open for all & I reacted

I have been indirectly mocked and hurt too on this forum time and time and my morality brought into question. This thread had comments that touched on this and after months I finally reacted & honestly I don't applologize.

If some find joy in just constantly scrutinizing and demonizing Raman - fine but why are my posts & posts of my peers labeled as biased for not following that perspective?

Khair I am apparently the loser here who tried to voice my concerns but I'm not sorry.


@red - Yes krishy, not to forget, the people who wanted me and fellow members too be infertile, claimed they are mothers to kids too... So they themselves had not experienced it, how do they know the pain? 😕. Just like how they understand infertility, we also understand about infertility. We don't have to experience it personally. And for records, I have also mentioned a couple of personal experiences in my close quarters about infertility, for which again I was mocked at in a different thread by the same people.

The irony is people claim that Raman is abusive, he called out names to Ishita indicating her infertility and all that. Heck, Raman is just a fictional character Krishy. What are these people doing in real life? Calling out others and wanting them to be Bhaanj? Then can we call them as abusive, and inhumane?. Fair enough? 😊.

Anyways, Krishy, leave it.. We can neither expect fairness with respect to the show nor do people try and understand both sides and pass a fair remark. Just leave and ignore. But I repeat, I'm glad that you raised this point, atleast now and I see nothing wrong or unhealthy about it. 😊
Edited by priyadarshini.r - 8 years ago

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