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Posted: 9 years ago
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Brilliantly put his convo with Bala says it all his anger is because she didn't come back and his d truth of being alive for 7 yrs and also he told d same things outside police station too mein 7 saal se mar raha hu guilt pe aur Tum zinda thi and I guess today's sbb scene will be after ishita's outburst at hsptl wer she says u pushed me off I didn't go by my wish
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Riahshroff

So the defences that dropped come right back. Because Raman will die a thousand deaths over and over every day knowing that Ishita left everything for him. If he does this, then he is the one that separated Adi and pihu from their mother, and not Ishita. That would be too much for Raman to handle, so as always, Raman finds the solution in anger and isolation.

If he is to blame for all this, how can he face Ishita. The woman he loves madly, truly, deeply. So yet again the coping mechanism is anger. Because if it's not anger, and it's pain, and he falls to the floor, what if she doesn't still come back to him?


Loved ur analysis 😳
Specially this part. The woman he is crazy about and loves so so so much, how will he face her once he accepts it.
But I know when he breaks down that too will be only in front of her.
I really hope the cvs give us one scene of both of them letting that guard drop once the truth and whatever is all out and just having that breakdown. It's needed so badly 😭
Divan will make us cry and how 😳 they are so so good with scenes that high on emotions.
Plz cvs 😭


I really hope the true confrontation scene do the characters justice

Thank you for the kind words 😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shivangi838

i am becoming a fan of ur posts..😛...u voice out the character's feelings soo well whether it is ishita or raman..thanks 4 doing this😃😃...much needed positivity in welcome in the forum...loved what ur wrote agree wid u ..keep writing👏



Thank you all for taking the time to read my thoughts 😊
And I will always find positivity in the show. I will take what I can relate to, or what I find interesting, and always be positive.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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brilliant awesome analysis dear 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

i love it so so so so much dear

i agree completely with you dear

whether it is ishu or raman you just give their feeling their emotion superbly dear hats off to that dear

i am tired of searching positive post in this forum more than that i got only negativity

i am fed up of reading raman vs ishu post more moreover force me to away from ishra

raman haters or lovers still stick with his words ( i agree his words are more than worst ) moreover no one is tired to understand him in his point of view why he did it ? still doing like this

moreover many of them find positivity in side characters even they are wrong somewhat but not for main leads

sometimes i also confused who is main lead in this show ? i agree yhm is not up to now most probably script is not good moreover focus in on one character shagun only

for me

both are wrong

both have so much pain inside ( both hide their pain one way another by anger or silence)

both have so much insecurities

both have doubt that whether he is fit to her husband or she is fit to his wife

moreover both are lacking in understanding each other

no one can heal their pain except for each other

dear you are really a ray of hope among few members in forum

please give positive post like this continuously moreover for ishra

i have an request if possible give review to daily episode too

again you make me stick on ishra again

thank you so much dear

extremely sorry if i hurt anyone by my comments its my opinion




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Posted: 9 years ago
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All I know that Ishu should not go back to Raman as anything happens in future he will again blame her...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I can understand his anger but not his words, why call her all the names again? And why keep blaming her for Ruhi's detah. It amkes me feel as if he will drive her to suicide again!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Updated on pg 1..would love to know what you think😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bscorp13

Zoya..👏

He said all that almost today..when he said tumhaari ishima saat saal pehle marr chuki hai adi..main nahi jaanta yeh aurat kaun hai.😊...his denial in capital letters...😆

More later

Ok, here is my take.
I kind of disagree that raman has forgotten his own doings because it is overshadowed by his anger. The very first glimpse we saw of the real raman bhalla post the leap was in the drunken scene with adi , where he hurts his hand. There he very clearly was guilty..guilty if his own deeds..because he never said that they left me..he clearly says 'I lost the 2 people I loved tjhe most..I am what you call, a loser'.
So deep within he certainly knows and has been guilty of his doings for all these years. Cut again to the jail scene..where he screams at ishita saying, there i was dying every minute in guilt of your death and here you v were alive and didn't bother to inform even.
So again, he knows his fault but then couple of factors have made him stoic and like you rightly sa I d the 'alpha male' who maskd his pain behind his anger...
The most important of those is his insecurity with mani being around. Yes , mani was WV always a threat to him and when he now feels ..whatever the status of b ishita's and Mani's relationship, it's a fact she chose to be with him all these years..in hiding..alive..all things the ishita he knew would never have donr...makes him doubly insecure and defensive and his wal k s have hone further up..it's Mani's presence which makes him uncomfortable to tjhe point of wanting to bury all the grey aspects of their relationship and put up a ' I don't give a damn about you ' facade..it's more like ..' she didn't bother about what I went through. She didn't even bother about how the kids were doing..this isn't my ishita. This is a new ishita...someone I don't recognize. .someone who is not selfless and giving but someone who speaks Mani's language...and thrrein lies tjhe catch..that's the crux of why the walls have gone higher up.. and the offence has gone to extreme leveks of giving hurt...inckuding trying to give her the same hurt , she is giving him...hence shagun and marriage to shagun😉

You are spot on when you say raman bhalla is more sensitive and vulnerable n most male characters on telly. .I would go a step ahead and say he is more sensitive and vulnerable than ishita in this equation . And that's why his defenses are extreme, self destruction and even far more juvenile😛.

The scene with bAla was poignant. When bala spoke of tjhe difference between the 'betrayal' by both women, he paused. It was the real raman bhalla agaim...he pondered, and for fleeting seconds tjhe facade fell. He was more than clear about his hurt in that scene where he saud who is this woman you are talking about. . She didn't even care to ask if I was dead or alive, or how her kids were doing , ...so he is still saying that aloud..no this woman isn't the ishita i know. She can't be..my ishita would never do this. ..
Yes ..it is a fact that ishita thinks tjhe sane too..this isn't my raman... the guy I knew would nev r hurt me this way or the way he did 7 yrs back...
But both need to see the mirror. .bit for that .. at least for raman. . Tjhe mani factor has to be v resolved for good...that is the biggest hurdue towards any progress he will make towards accepting that indeed it's his ishita who is back for good. ..
Till then denial and anger it is...and hence more self destruction😛🥱

Sorry for rambling. .hope i made sense😆


wonderful post 👏

i really like the idea that you pointed out that the ishita he knows would never leave him. i think that's great because until now, because of the sheer anger raman has been expressing, the difference in his personality, or his 'act' is more overt. Ishita on the other hand, has always acted to a certain degree in front of us, the audience and even raman, but she is more subtle. i mean she hides very well from Raman how incredibly insecure of shagun she was. the change in raman is more drastic. we underestimate what raman is seeing, because we KNOW there is no romantic relationship between ishita and mani. Raman DOESN'T KNOW, and the not knowing is even more agony than knowing there is a romantic relationship. he's in limbo and the anger of that is driving him insane. the WHAT IF they are together.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: maduragymhasium

brilliant awesome analysis dear 👏

i love it so so so so much dear

i agree completely with you dear

whether it is ishu or raman you just give their feeling their emotion superbly dear hats off to that dear

i am tired of searching positive post in this forum more than that i got only negativity

i am fed up of reading raman vs ishu post more moreover force me to away from ishra

raman haters or lovers still stick with his words ( i agree his words are more than worst ) moreover no one is tired to understand him in his point of view why he did it ? still doing like this

moreover many of them find positivity in side characters even they are wrong somewhat but not for main leads

sometimes i also confused who is main lead in this show ? i agree yhm is not up to now most probably script is not good moreover focus in on one character shagun only

for me

both are wrong

both have so much pain inside ( both hide their pain one way another by anger or silence)

both have so much insecurities

both have doubt that whether he is fit to her husband or she is fit to his wife

moreover both are lacking in understanding each other

no one can heal their pain except for each other

dear you are really a ray of hope among few members in forum

please give positive post like this continuously moreover for ishra

i have an request if possible give review to daily episode too

again you make me stick on ishra again

thank you so much dear

extremely sorry if i hurt anyone by my comments its my opinion




thank you for your kind words

at the moment I'm only watching glimpses of the show, until there is a reunion on the horizon
i will try and analysis often as i can though, and then when i do delve into the bank of episodes ill analyse even more😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zoyamalik2005


wonderful post 👏

i really like the idea that you pointed out that the ishita he knows would never leave him. i think that's great because until now, because of the sheer anger raman has been expressing, the difference in his personality, or his 'act' is more overt. Ishita on the other hand, has always acted to a certain degree in front of us, the audience and even raman, but she is more subtle. i mean she hides very well from Raman how incredibly insecure of shagun she was. the change in raman is more drastic. we underestimate what raman is seeing, because we KNOW there is no romantic relationship between ishita and mani. Raman DOESN'T KNOW, and the not knowing is even more agony than knowing there is a romantic relationship. he's in limbo and the anger of that is driving him insane. the WHAT IF they are together.



Yes.. and to add to it..ishita has openly sided with mani. .in every confrontation till now..
The jail seq where mani was the one who asked her to choose..us or them..he as k ed pointing at raman and adi.. and ishita walked over to Mani's side...raman has been a different person since..
Just moments bavk in the jail scene..he had praised. .'his ishita and adis ishima' for her upbringing. .and immediately after that scene he started off with his rant of 'you are dead for me..you are no one to me. ...what he is actually saying is that the wom as n i knew as ishita died that day 7 yrs back.. she would have never abandoned her kids.. and her walking over to mani and aliya..even though she did ta ke a Nuetrial stand..kind of made his myopic vision even more myopic. ..he felt she abandoned them again. . And this wasn't his ishita...

The war over the contract , her sudden decision to move , and now worst of all tjhe decision to fight for Pihu's custody. L are all totally not ishita at all... the ishita we tjhe audience know would have also been shocked and angry if we had not been shown a back story to ishita doing what she is doing. ..but raman has NOT...he is believing what he sees.. and this ishita he believes ..could not be the one he loved and knew..that's why tjhe line again in the jail today to adi...
Son.this is not your ishima.. she died 7 yrs back..this woman is just an apparition. ...and worse still her being alive and different from the we Oman he knew makes him want to avoid her presence totally. .the denial reaches new levels. .
The day ishita's truth us out..or she reveals her true self. .which she has been trying..but mani coupled with the pihus custody will make Raman blind with rage again. .but the day he sees she is the v same. .he will be back different man. .he will be ishita's raman...
But for that ishita has to come in front of him...not through any stupid prank plans or dances..but maybe something more potent..😉

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