In defense of Raman Bhalla - Page 6

Originally posted by: sonu_ishradivan

2 add 2 it, he doesn't know that Ishita has lived in pain these yrs, she rejected Mani's proposal, etc. He can only c her happy atm, so awaiting that turn too.

exactly he's not privy to her suffering , of the fact that she like him has rejected proposal for marriage, she like him misses her spouse .. In his dues.. She's happy, has a brand new family with Mani ... He sees that as a betrayal of their love.. Their relationship. Hence ..

for d frst time after leap I have seen anger in ishita's eyes wen Raman held shagun's arms and told her dose things and wen he told dat he will announce his maariage date soon ishita left from there in anger whch means Raman has succeed in his taks to push her buttons she left from there to Iyer house even before Raman and Shagun left till now they have showed helplessness and guilt in her eyes but here she is showing anger it means things will change from now on

Originally posted by: shravsss

Res

I am copying my post here. This was what exactly I wanted to convey too... As you said, Whatever he is doing is just because he wants some reaction from his Ishita. His Ishita would never be this silent.

<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="2" color="#990066">The most complex and misunderstood character is Yeh hai Mohabbatein's Raman Kumar Bhalla. He has never been understood by his own loved ones, that's what he had been repeatedly dealt with. His ex-wife, parents, siblings, kids and the one person he never thought would misunderstand him or mistake him. He is not the same Raman he was before his first marriage. It had changed the very person he was. Like habit remains, the Raman or should I say Happy in Toshiji's words is still there somewhere in him. He fights with his inner Happy(Raman) and the Raman he has changed into. He has repeatedly shown that he doesn't know to show or express love. That's what people made him believe and they believe themselves too. This man can only and only be opened up to love, a man who understands only love. How can people expect him not to know how to express the same. His gestures speaks how an expressive person he is. He doesn't care about rest of the World, but only people whom he loves. His life revolves around his family and their happiness. He tries to play a pawn to everyone's happiness. He reacts when he is not understood by his loved ones. He does the unexpected to get their eyes laid on him. He wants to be the center of their life he lives for. He doesn't have it in him to face this World without his loved ones, he cannot imagine his life without his loved ones...But, fortune has always played its role in making him feel lone. When you aren't with your soulmate by your side, nothing interests you anymore. He is not accepted the way he is now, everyone expects him to be happy and when he becomes happy something always pull him back to be the new Raman he built him too.</font>

<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="2" color="#990066">Ishita was one person he expected will never leave him no matter what. Yes, he is a person who reacts to the situation without thinking about others but the one person he lost. His daughter, the daughter once he abandoned from fatherly love, the same daughter who bought his soulmate into his life, the same daughter who made him feel complete as a family, the same daughter who made him his favourite person when he wasn't even expressive, the same daughter for whom or just for the sake of her custody who married a person he was least interested in. He believed when he saw the scene unearthing in front of his eyes, his daughter burning in a car blast. The helplessness as a father of not saving a daughter is something only a father can understand. The failure that he once again came across as an individual, as an father, which led both his children to suffer, The questions which haunted him seeing his son in the mercy of a Psychiatrist, the same father who failed his son many years before, he couldn't fight for, the helplessness he left, the capability that always questioned him. Is he capable of taking care of his loved ones? That left him completely with the new Raman he became after his unsuccessful marriage or should I say the father who couldn't gather much courage to fight for his son or daughter. He once again couldn't do anything in saving his daughter and his Ishita saw the same and had confided in a police than the father of the kids. He couldn't take the fact that his wife didn't support him or his decision. The one person who has supported him all through with his son, with his family, with his siblings, with his business and the most important person he just loss because he isn't capable enough as a father, his daughter, his Ruhi.</font>

<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="2" color="#990066">Words sometimes does bother when it comes from the most loved person, I do understand Ishita's plight and decision but Raman's anger, helplessness, failures is showing all of that is on himself, it's all about him... He never expected Ishita to not support when he was broken than he was ever in his life or probably he will ever be.</font>

<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="2" color="#990066">From, Ishita's point of view what she did was what I as a person would have done too, Commit suicide. She is lifeless, doesn't have a life other when that life doesn't include Ruhi and Raman, who were soul of her life when it started and for whom it started at the first place. A person who is wishing to die because she is bad omen, who wants to be away from her loved ones to keep away the bad omen. How can people expect a person who is wishing to die to be in a very thinking state of mind. She was saved by someone, who lost his legs while saving her which made her believe strongly that she is indeed a bad omen. How can someone expect a person to return to her family only to have them experience the misfortune that she would carry. She as a mother thought, her son and the new born daughter would have a better life, if she doesn't instill the bad omen she carries in their lives. May be her parents will be at peace, by not seeing her daughter in a lifeless life. That's more torturous than actually seeing a dead daughter. This is something my mother told me one day. Parents can never tolerate their child or children in a lifeless state.</font>

<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="2" color="#990066">I don't know what I wrote above made sense or not. But, just my insight to the show or the two characters, I have been loving since the start of the show. The aren't wrong in their own way, they aren't right in their own eyes probably.</font>

This was very beautifully written! 😳

Originally posted by: arooshee

So why pihu was told shagun raman are married..there wedding album was shown...and always told shagun is her real mom?????

Why raman let pihu believe th@t?????

Originally posted by: Sri1091

for d frst time after leap I have seen anger in ishita's eyes wen Raman held shagun's arms and told her dose things and wen he told dat he will announce his maariage date soon ishita left from there in anger whch means Raman has succeed in his taks to push her buttons she left from there to Iyer house even before Raman and Shagun left till now they have showed helplessness and guilt in her eyes but here she is showing anger it means things will change from now on

Thank god

Angry Raman meets angry Ishita is better than angry Raman meets woe is me Ishita bc at least there will be progress. Plus jealous/possessive Ishita is always something different & interesting to see.

Only issue - who cleared her misconception of Shagun-Raman? She stayed away bc she thought he was happily married & now he unhappily wants to get married to get a reaction from her...so does it change her POV?

These two idiots just suck at communicating & hense we get this depth of hurt.

Honestly have both not suffered enough already for their mistakes? Were this 1.0, we would see the healing process start soon. Not a sadistic game of watching everyone burn.

Originally posted by: Sri1091

for d frst time after leap I have seen anger in ishita's eyes wen Raman held shagun's arms and told her dose things and wen he told dat he will announce his maariage date soon ishita left from there in anger whch means Raman has succeed in his taks to push her buttons she left from there to Iyer house even before Raman and Shagun left till now they have showed helplessness and guilt in her eyes but here she is showing anger it means things will change from now on

Originally posted by: -Gan-

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As a woman .. The way surrogacy was conceived in YHM ... I would have also preferred a self-respecting Ishita rather than what transpired after that to keep Shagun's character and her surrogacy alive in YHM.. I lost it connection to the story and had quit watching the show for good... But as my timeline in social media kept me updated about the storyline... I got intrigued after the elevator incident and started watching again... Wish I had stayed away.

As far as the compromises to evolving the characters are concerned... I feel that's a business decision .. As to keep the audience intrigued with an evolved pratogonists they have to be 'creative' as in think of new tracks stories... Throwbacks to old situations are ez pz especially with an audience body ( 7:30 pm vs 11pm ) who probably are not familiar with the old tracks. They are taking the shorter distance to keeping the TRP within top 5 .. And it's working !

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Somewhere I feel they erred in playing out Ishita-Raman equation internally without involving Ruhi, families and what not. They have had moments even before slot change , thats what I call Plot A ..but they never carry the arc and complete it till Plot C.When you are left with such premise how do you play out the dramatics . The show even before the slot change was driven by plots more than the characters. I think, thats why they never evolved them as far as their traits are concerned. GEC show are usually plot driven , hence people like Shagun, Ashok,externals influence the crux of the show. And are never removed from an Ekta'\s show. Or why do you need Ashok now or Suraj? Villains never leave became they generate plots. And push the show.There is so much whiplash in terms of characters. I like Adi because he standalone is endearing but I don't know how much of the old Adi was progressed to this man..it's not just about Ishita's influence but he has no guilt, anger towards his parents for what happened to Ruhu? A teen like him could have not understood. He had deep seated insecurities as well. Poof it goes away.Yet Raman and Ishita remains the same. Their basic traits are intact. See my frustration? Because I see them and realize what have they given to each other ? Or made a happy space.So , how hard was it to give some tangible shift in characters for the leads even if they are to used used for dramas.7 years of leap and trp audience sees Ishita with Shani..she looks fine, has all the tangibly visible signs of doing okay..then they wonder..where are her insecurities?What has shifted now..and 7 years back..the same words, same malice..yet there is no ounce of anger at all? No self-respect? Then why do we blame her parents or her family members for not standing up? Shouldn't filing a case against Raman be the only way they would have seemed normal given their loss? That justifies Mihika's intent too against Raman..she held him responsible for Ishita's action...but her action is all wrong. Is there a difference between Mihika and Raman then?

Marvellously written 👏

Superb post gan
very well written
I just loved All the comments .All the reviews are superb
I Know Both are at fault .
Like All said we cannot Relate with Raman's word But can relate with his actions.
He is Doing this to hide his pain.I can never doubt his love for ishita .As ishita said Raman jissey sabsey zaida lartey hein ussey hi pyaar sabse zaida kartey hein.Raman rarely shouts at shagun but He scolds ishita many times bcoz Hum sabsey zaida ussey hi gussa hotey hein jis par hum apna haaq samjhtey hein.
Raman Is Misunderstanding that she is happy in her life with her new family .But He was not happy and From last 7 years he is in pain .like some said in comments here that he wants her to talk to him .she spoke with many of them but Dhe did not tell a word to him , to clarify for suicide attempt and this make him more angry.
I just want ishita to speak back .I want to see her jkr mode .Both of them Are imperfect and wrong But they are perfect for each other .

Originally posted by: -Gan-

Loved loved what you wrote Shravvs .. Digging deep into the inner psyche of both Ishita Raman... And explaining their behavior. I couldn't have written such good character analysis. 😳

Very wonderfully written 👏