In defense of Raman Bhalla - Page 7

Originally posted by: -K.13-

This was very beautifully written! 😳

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Somewhere I feel they erred in playing out Ishita-Raman equation internally without involving Ruhi, families and what not. They have had moments even before slot change , thats what I call Plot A ..but they never carry the arc and complete it till Plot C.

When you are left with such premise how do you play out the dramatics . The show even before the slot change was driven by plots more than the characters. I think, thats why they never evolved them as far as their traits are concerned. GEC show are usually plot driven , hence people like Shagun, Ashok,externals influence the crux of the show. And are never removed from an Ekta'\s show. Or why do you need Ashok now or Suraj? Villains never leave became they generate plots. And push the show.

There is so much whiplash in terms of characters. I like Adi because he standalone is endearing but I don't know how much of the old Adi was progressed to this man..it's not just about Ishita's influence but he has no guilt, anger towards his parents for what happened to Ruhu? A teen like him could have not understood. He had deep seated insecurities as well. Poof it goes away.Yet Raman and Ishita remains the same. Their basic traits are intact. See my frustration? Because I see them and realize what have they given to each other ? Or made a happy space.

So , how hard was it to give some tangible shift in characters for the leads even if they are to used used for dramas.

7 years of leap and trp audience sees Ishita with Shani..she looks fine, has all the tangibly visible signs of doing okay..then they wonder..where are her insecurities?

What has shifted now..and 7 years back..the same words, same malice..yet there is no ounce of anger at all? No self-respect? Then why do we blame her parents or her family members for not standing up? Shouldn't filing a case against Raman be the only way they would have seemed normal given their loss? That justifies Mihika's intent too against Raman..she held him responsible for Ishita's action...but her action is all wrong. Is there a difference between Mihika and Raman then?

A very sensible analysis of Raman Kumar Bhalla.

But I would like to point out something as well.

Raman is irascible and Ishita becomes his punching bag. But this time he crosses all limits.

Even before their marriage he knew about her fertility issue. To eliminate Ishita from the custody case he stooped to strike at her Achilles' heel ...an undignified act of poking at her physical disability.

Many find fault with Ishita for keeping her whereabouts under wraps for seven long years. How can she who is accused as a bad luck and of killing Ruhi by her beloved ever return to their lives? Ruhi is the very base of her married life. During the child swap Ishita herself says that Ruhi is the binding force between them and without her their relationship goes asunder.

This is repeated by Raman when Ruhi is killed'. He finds Ruhi, the bridge and Ishita, his world collapsing. He becomes irrational, turns savage spitting hurtful words. He knows where her insecurity lies. Again he hits his loved one' under her belt. He calls her baanjh and an ill-omen in his life. This was a blow Ishita least expected. She thought of herself as a complete woman in his eyes.

He has seen how she gets along with kids. She always thinks of their well-being. Even when Adi hated Ishita she was never bitter towards him nor did she show any partiality between Ruhi and Adi. But Raman says that she cannot be called even a step-mom for she is worse than that.

Raman's sense of insecurity doesn't justify his spiteful words. The damage he has done is beyond repair. Calling his wife a baanjh is an assertion of woman is nothing but a womb.' Love without respect is selfishness.

Ishita is also at fault. She should have contacted her parents, should have realised their grief.

But she cannot be blamed altogether. She must have believed Raman's words that she is bad luck to everyone. In a sense she was when her marriage was not happening and her mother had to face taunts from many. Raman's words that she is an accursed one have gone deep into her mind. Perhaps, this is why she assumes everybody is fine without her. She does not want to ruffle their life, though she very much loves to be with them.

The portrayal of these 'adorable' but flawed fictional characters often lack integrity. Wish the CVs stop butchering them.

Originally posted by: MaluA

Nice post and nice discussion.

Unlike, it seems most people here, I do not believe Raman is spewing hate to get Ishita's attention or to get her to speak. I think his tongue is in proportion to his hurt. He wants to hurt Ishita as much as he has been hurt by her death and now her being alive. Nothing more, nothing less. We got all of Raman's POV that we were going to get on his true feelings about Ishita and her motherhood prior to him seeing her alive sober. After seeing her alive with Mani his hurt turned into rage and he felt betrayed again. Shagun left him for another man and now his eyes tell him Ishita did the same. The Ishita he knew was unlike Shagun and whom he never expected to do that. His insecurity that he was never a good enough husband to keep a woman is now alive and roaring. Raman knows insulting her as a mother and her inability to become one hurts Ishita the most so he will rub salt in that wound aplenty. Him telling her he wishes he never saved her is to show his indifference because he will never be able to say the words I hate you or I do not love you. Even as hurt as he is, he can never say that to her. Raman never thinks right and wrong with his words, he only knows his pain and he spews venom at the source of his pain. Once the pain is gone so is the venom.

I also view Ishita not defending herself to Raman different than most as well. She has been living in guilt for the past seven years. Guilt of killing Ruhi, paralyzing Mani, not being a good mother, being a manhoos to her family, etc, etc. When a person perceives themself of being guilty as charged, they do not mount a defense, the defense rests, they are guilty. What else is there to say? She is accepting his tongue lashing as punishment. Ruhi is dead, she is to blame, Raman told her so. Her also not responding to being called a baanj is also typical. She never said anything to anyone when she was called that in the past. Never to Subbu's mom, Shagun and now Raman. She called herself a baanj during the surrogacy track. She herself also now feels like a bad mother, as she expressed to Alia in Australia, so why would she speak up when Raman rants the same?

Just thought I would add my two cents... Hope it made sense

Originally posted by: Muskan_SwaRon

Well said. From Day 1 (after the leap :P), I am supporting Raman only. He lived in guilt for bloody 7 years. He had a tough life. I am not Ishita didn't have a tough one, but she always had an option of returning back. Poor Raman had nothing to do other than mourning n feeling guilty. Raman's anger is justified. Ishita's actions are something that i CAN'T understand at all. Pretending to be dead and living in Australia with ur another daughter was too loser type on her part. This time, it is Ishita who is at fault. And lets' just avoid the dialogues of Raman coz acc to Ishita, he gets angry on the person he loves :v

Originally posted by: MaluA

Nice post and nice discussion.

Unlike, it seems most people here, I do not believe Raman is spewing hate to get Ishita's attention or to get her to speak. I think his tongue is in proportion to his hurt. He wants to hurt Ishita as much as he has been hurt by her death and now her being alive. Nothing more, nothing less. We got all of Raman's POV that we were going to get on his true feelings about Ishita and her motherhood prior to him seeing her alive sober. After seeing her alive with Mani his hurt turned into rage and he felt betrayed again. Shagun left him for another man and now his eyes tell him Ishita did the same. The Ishita he knew was unlike Shagun and whom he never expected to do that. His insecurity that he was never a good enough husband to keep a woman is now alive and roaring. Raman knows insulting her as a mother and her inability to become one hurts Ishita the most so he will rub salt in that wound aplenty. Him telling her he wishes he never saved her is to show his indifference because he will never be able to say the words I hate you or I do not love you. Even as hurt as he is, he can never say that to her. Raman never thinks right and wrong with his words, he only knows his pain and he spews venom at the source of his pain. Once the pain is gone so is the venom.

I also view Ishita not defending herself to Raman different than most as well. She has been living in guilt for the past seven years. Guilt of killing Ruhi, paralyzing Mani, not being a good mother, being a manhoos to her family, etc, etc. When a person perceives themself of being guilty as charged, they do not mount a defense, the defense rests, they are guilty. What else is there to say? She is accepting his tongue lashing as punishment. Ruhi is dead, she is to blame, Raman told her so. Her also not responding to being called a baanj is also typical. She never said anything to anyone when she was called that in the past. Never to Subbu's mom, Shagun and now Raman. She called herself a baanj during the surrogacy track. She herself also now feels like a bad mother, as she expressed to Alia in Australia, so why would she speak up when Raman rants the same?

Just thought I would add my two cents... Hope it made sense