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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sarsyed

Wonderful post 👏

Like I said before ishita thinks so inferior about herself or thinks she is the cause for most of the problems in raman's life.

RAMAN did everything to make her feel wanted /loved and secure everytime but the words he said eventually are so etched in her mind and she can't forget that bcoz that's how the world made her feel worthless everytime except for raman and ruhi and with those words she went back to square one.

It's like raman built the bubble and he burst it too

Hearing the same from raman was like a confirmation for her that she is indeed nothing but a pain in everyone's life.

That's how any individual with any kind of inability be it physical or mental reacts...it's very tough to make them believe that they are worthy.


I totally agree. The line you wrote about building the bubble- YES. He built her up and then broke her down completely
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sarsyed

Wonderful post 👏

Like I said before ishita thinks so inferior about herself or thinks she is the cause for most of the problems in raman's life.

RAMAN did everything to make her feel wanted /loved and secure everytime but the words he said eventually are so etched in her mind and she can't forget that bcoz that's how the world made her feel worthless everytime except for raman and ruhi and with those words she went back to square one.

It's like raman built the bubble and he burst it too

Hearing the same from raman was like a confirmation for her that she is indeed nothing but a pain in everyone's life.

That's how any individual with any kind of inability be it physical or mental reacts...it's very tough to make them believe that they are worthy.


This is so well said..I totally agree with it..
But i doubt the cvs intention is to show her as the weak one...

They have always portrayed her emotionally stronger than raman and never exposed her vulnerabilities. .. so the fact that raman opened his b heart to her and she still didn't comprehend a word of it ,.was very unlike her..

I totally get the ...'the person who I opened up, hurt me and I feel most vulnerable when in front of him, esp since he reinforced my inadequacies bit' , but we didn't hear her say it once today. .

Neither did we gear her say..I can't see you in pain, but I have tried but cannot get myself to face you and my demons again...no..that neither. ..
Instead she was repeating what she said 7 yrs back
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bscorp13


This is so well said..I totally agree with it..
But i doubt the cvs intention is to show her as the weak one...

They have always portrayed her emotionally stronger than raman and never exposed her vulnerabilities. .. so the fact that raman opened his b heart to her and she still didn't comprehend a word of it ,.was very unlike her..

I totally get the ...'the person who I opened up, hurt me and I feel most vulnerable when in front of him, esp since he reinforced my inadequacies bit' , but we didn't hear her say it once today. .

Neither did we gear her say..I can't see you in pain, but I have tried but cannot get myself to face you and my demons again...no..that neither. ..
Instead she was repeating what she said 7 yrs back


If u remember her self talk when she sees him on TV.
She says something on lines like u are the best u must be happy since I am not there etc.
Then after that bol do na zara sequence too her words were
AAP khush toh hai na raman ...I hope aap khush ho ..

She wants him to be happy not WANT him bcoz he makes her happy...I agree she has been portrayed as more strong emotionally thats bcoz she was confident that she had her man by her side ...if u remember that Hut scene dialogs or when she was under sanaya's disguise...Raman was her strength and with those words she felt like she was alone .

My pov I love both the characters and yes both are flawed for varied reasons
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I always love your writing
today I do agree with you , I knkw she is not wrong in her thinking. She is leaving raman bcoz of his happiness.
she Still remembers those words but Why did not she remember his yesterday's word , I know these were not in sober condition but these words were true .
As you said that Ishita is doing what a human does , I do agree with you but these cvs never portray ishita as a human they always treated her as A super women or an angel.All I can say that ishra are not wrong this time but situation is wrong .I think so they should face this Situation .They need to talk and confront each other and pour out their hearts with each other.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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i agree with u partially...and i doo feel sorry for ishita...about what all raman spitted the venomous words in anger...and believe me...i dont like to defend raman here on that...its true whatever he said no matter what happened no matter they lost ruhi...but do u really think...whenevr raman vented out his anger at ishita he ever really meant it...it was just a natural agression which came out as it was indeed ishita's fault that time...if u remember during ruhi's reopening custody notice to bhalla's evn though that time raman was nt at fault mihir attacked suraj in anger...and but raman didnt took his name...and ishita vented out her agression at him..she too shouted at him...in the fear to loose ruhi again...then again during child swap too she got angry over his act..bcz it was really his fault that time...then when raman stole vohra's certificate from ishita at that time too she got angry over him and vented out her anger...
and now again when nidhi asked ishita not raman but ishita to give ruhi to her in exchange of her baby...she was looking adamant and refused to give away ruhi...but when raman made her understand that he'll bring their both daughters back...and she shud not inform police ...but she did...y..? y did she agreed to him giving away ruhi too then...here her mistake was y didnt she agreed/trusted to raman's evry words or then y did she agreed to give away ruhi too then...she shud have remained stayed firm on her decision...Raman kept on assuring her nothing will happen to both daughters...and she assumed that nidhi can have harmful weapons too with her then y didnt she thot if she sees police thr what cud be the dangerous consequences..


So this was her overall mistake which led raman to vent out those venous words and i found it was natural as he was always a short tempered man when it comes to the life of his loved ones...

if u know Raman was trying to strangle nidhi whn he found ishita was shot in real...he got mad n insane had not thr been acp to hold on him...he wud have nearly killed nidhi he said if anything happens to his ishita he'll kill her

But today its been after 7 yrs...ishita atleast shud have realise after seeing his state not only her but her ravan kumar has too became lifeless..they both r lifeless without each other after that night...atleast she shud once confront him in his sober state once what she felt hearing those words from him...she shud atleast once told him that shez not selfish she just did what he said..

PS...i am diehard ishra fan...for me both were at fault...what ishita did running away n not coming back 7 yrs ago was justified but evn after seeing her lifeless ravan kumar's inner feelings he too along with her suffered for 7 yrs nd still is not happy n all alone she decided to run away leave him alone evn without confronting him once is not at all justifiable..
Edited by nicegul - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zoyamalik2005

People are asking why, after seeing a broken, beaten, battered Raman, why isn't she staying. Why is she running away from the love of her life, when he has literally become a dead man walking. She has learnt he is dead, shattered. And it's because she isn't with him. He has revealed that her leaving has killed him.

Without her, he is lifeless.

But I'm asking, how can she stay? I personally think her reaction, though cowardly, is, especially for Ishita, very, very human. She is petrified. Terrified.

She knows Raman, she has seen him drunk. And then she has seen him sober. I think she knows that whilst Raman is revealing his pain while he is drunk, she also knows the venom he is capable of spewing when he'd be sober. If drunk Raman can let out his pain, sober Raman can be so stubborn, and volatile, that if he said something so harsh seven years ago, Ishita thought it would be better to end her life, imagine how scared she would be to face him now?

If Raman shuts down to self preservation mode, then Ishita running away is Ishita at her best. She thinks she is sacrificing herself yet again for the good of Raman. When in truth, yet again, she is doing it to feel needed. You would think Raman's words would play into her characterisation and she would feel needed. But here is the thing. She knows the pain Raman is capable of making her feel. When he wakes up, and sees her, it won't be the dream she saw in her head that plays out. Accusations will be flung. Maybe the very words said seven years ago will be repeated all over again. Raman is capable of immense love, but immense pain and volatility too. So maybe she decides I cannot face that hatred in Raman's eyes again. How many times can he kill her she thinks. If he is dead, then so is she. But tomorrow, sober Raman will in no way admit that he is dead. Actually, he will say the exact opposite. And this time Ishita doesn't know if she will have the strength to fight, to break all the walls that came back up a thousand times stronger. And even if she does comprehend doing that, isn't he married to Shagun?


So Ishita, yet again convinces herself she is doing it for him, and runs away from facing his hatred tomorrow. Runs away from facing the reality that he has married someone else. Who cares if it's Shagun, just that it's not her. Her staying and fighting with him- will it hurt him too? Because at the end of the day, they can't be together after that anyways

I am most definitely not defending Ishita. But I am saying she is reacting in a human way. She is running away. And many people run away from their problems. Ishita is actually a very twisted character. She has seen so much pain in her life, and pain that she didn't deserve. She has felt worthless for years. And she does extreme things to feel needed. This way, she feels needed to 'keep herself, a bad omen away' but is running from Raman's wrath. The wrath he unleashed seven years ago fresh in her mind. She knows he will do anything but talk about his true feelings in a sober state. So she is running from the hatred she will have to see in his eyes.


Very well said! It is not as easy as replacing a broken toy... Raman expressed his feelings so Ishita should come back... What happens when he is angry the next time... Or the time after that... I am in no way saying that Ishita is right... What she did was cowardly... But she came to him... And he pushed her away... So this time it has to be Raman who comes to her... For everything to be all hunky dory with this one drunken confession by Raman would trivialize their relationship... The essence of Ishra would be destroyed if it worked out so easily.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yet another lovely write up!

How I wish we can see Ishita be this weak in front of Raman - a lecture from Mani or anyone else can't do what the real Ishita could to for IshRa's relationship.

She puts up a facade of perfection, never voices her own opinions, and rarely opens up to her life partner out of incredibly deep seated insecurity - but for IshRa to take steps in the right direction eventually...logically and ideally one would see this bc Raman can't change until he sees the hold he has on her bc really all he perceives is the hold she had on him bc their love languages are so different.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Beautiful post once again 😳

I totally understand ishita here i understand why she wants to run away i read ppl saing even after hearing what Raman said in drunken state even after knowing he is not happy without her why she running away... well I don't blame her .. she herself said once he get back into senses he won't utter what he said in her dreams ... his words had deep effect on her .. frankly being a woman i myself still feel horrible about those words so ishita haunted by those words totally understandable... and will Raman allow her to come in his life just like that... No we all know things will go nasty it won't be easy path for both ishra ... if Raman will hurt ishita he will hurt himself also as we know both feel each other's pain ... her pain will equally give pain to him ...

Coming back to ishita running away again (we know she won't go) as i said i totally understand her she needs assurance from Raman only then only she can her confidence back as mother as... wife as woman... only Raman has the power to make her as he was the one who broke her with those words...

I am a die heart ishra fan and love both of them equally... so please don't think if I am supporting ishita here then i am Raman basher 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -K.13-

Yet another lovely write up!

How I wish we can see Ishita be this weak in front of Raman - a lecture from Mani or anyone else can't do what the real Ishita could to for IshRa's relationship.

She puts up a facade of perfection, never voices her own opinions, and rarely opens up to her life partner out of incredibly deep seated insecurity - but for IshRa to take steps in the right direction eventually...logically and ideally one would see this bc Raman can't change until he sees the hold he has on her bc really all he perceives is the hold she had on him bc their love languages are so different.


For two people insanely in love, I agree. They know how much they love the other. But don't understand how madly the other reciprocates
Edited by Zoyamalik2005 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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There is a song from Arth which I think encapsulates the Ishita of Saat Saal Baad

Tum itna jo muskura rahe ho
Kya ghum hai jisko chupa rahe ho

Ankhon mein nami
Hansi labon pe
Kya haal hai, kya dikha rahe ho?

Ban jayenge zehar peete peete
Yeh ashq jo piye jaa rahe ho

Jin zakhmon ko waqt bhar chuka hai
Tum kyun unhe chedhe jaa rahe ho

Rekahin ka khel hai muqadar
Rekhaon se maat kha rahe ho

Tum itna jo


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