Ishita Bhalla: a battle with herself.

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People are asking why, after seeing a broken, beaten, battered Raman, why isn't she staying. Why is she running away from the love of her life, when he has literally become a dead man walking. She has learnt he is dead, shattered. And it's because she isn't with him. He has revealed that her leaving has killed him.

Without her, he is lifeless.

But I'm asking, how can she stay? I personally think her reaction, though cowardly, is, especially for Ishita, very, very human. She is petrified. Terrified.

She knows Raman, she has seen him drunk. And then she has seen him sober. I think she knows that whilst Raman is revealing his pain while he is drunk, she also knows the venom he is capable of spewing when he'd be sober. If drunk Raman can let out his pain, sober Raman can be so stubborn, and volatile, that if he said something so harsh seven years ago, Ishita thought it would be better to end her life, imagine how scared she would be to face him now?

If Raman shuts down to self preservation mode, then Ishita running away is Ishita at her best. She thinks she is sacrificing herself yet again for the good of Raman. When in truth, yet again, she is doing it to feel needed. You would think Raman's words would play into her characterisation and she would feel needed. But here is the thing. She knows the pain Raman is capable of making her feel. When he wakes up, and sees her, it won't be the dream she saw in her head that plays out. Accusations will be flung. Maybe the very words said seven years ago will be repeated all over again. Raman is capable of immense love, but immense pain and volatility too. So maybe she decides I cannot face that hatred in Raman's eyes again. How many times can he kill her she thinks. If he is dead, then so is she. But tomorrow, sober Raman will in no way admit that he is dead. Actually, he will say the exact opposite. And this time Ishita doesn't know if she will have the strength to fight, to break all the walls that came back up a thousand times stronger. And even if she does comprehend doing that, isn't he married to Shagun?


So Ishita, yet again convinces herself she is doing it for him, and runs away from facing his hatred tomorrow. Runs away from facing the reality that he has married someone else. Who cares if it's Shagun, just that it's not her. Her staying and fighting with him- will it hurt him too? Because at the end of the day, they can't be together after that anyways

I am most definitely not defending Ishita. But I am saying she is reacting in a human way. She is running away. And many people run away from their problems. Ishita is actually a very twisted character. She has seen so much pain in her life, and pain that she didn't deserve. She has felt worthless for years. And she does extreme things to feel needed. This way, she feels needed to 'keep herself, a bad omen away' but is running from Raman's wrath. The wrath he unleashed seven years ago fresh in her mind. She knows he will do anything but talk about his true feelings in a sober state. So she is running from the hatred she will have to see in his eyes.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hey Zoya

A lovely post again and I concur

The way I see it Ishita took the decision to leave again for a simple reason - she's trying to protect herself.

We often have seen Ishita being accused of being too good or too selfless for her own good... but this is Ishita at her selfish best, this is Ishita who ran away seven years ago and yes, she doesn't contact anyone including her parents because this is Ishita who when she tried to kill herself all those years ago believed the worst she could about herself coming from the man who she loves more than anyone, including Ruhi in this world...those words from the world combined couldnt break her to this degree but coming from Raman, they were more than words, they were more than insults meant to belittle her - they were weapons that killed her, coming from him they weren't just labels anymore - they were what she perceived to be the worst things about her - it was as if everything that she always fought against suddenly overpowered her, because the worst thing that could happen to her DID and at the hands of the one person who made her think otherwise.


Her pain and grief were simply not taken into account instead she was branded the culprit here - just because she wasnt the one who bore Ruhi, because Ruhi didnt happen to be her flesh and blood. Her identity as a woman, a mother and a wife which were interconnected questioned and crushed together in one go in the most cruel way possible at the hands of the one man who had the most absolute power over her heart.

The staying away all these years was the result of his words and also, the belief of them - plus some innate sense of self- preservation, because that is what kicked in here too.

Ishita wants to go back to Raman no doubt, the point of his drunken talks was to let her know the REALITY of his condition but also she has known this man more than anyone else... she knows he is capable of pouring his heart out in this state but when sober he would be as vicious as he was vulnerable drunk and she can't deal with those barbs again, they have the power to destroy her and I think to a certain extent there' some extent of anger in Ishita too - her words - he threw me out felt so to me...

Her dream tonight was to have a SOBER Raman, HAPPY to welcome her back but she says, this wouldnt ever become a reality - because she knows this man, she knows he would break than bow down and admit, he needs her as much and misses her as much as she does sober...

And Ishita doesnt want to beg him to keep her, it's not just about self respect but because it's humiliating to even imagine to beg your own husband to have you, love you...Ishita never did that even in YHM 1.0 - interestingly, the first time she mentions the word Mohabbat to Raman is when Mani comes into the picture - in a scene where she's asking him to come to a party at Mani's and as Raman refuses she says I never ask anything of you, can't you do so much for me? Kaunsi badi Mohabbat maangi hai maine aapse?


She wants him to want her back and she knows his anger if nothing else wont allow him to admit that and to a certain extent his ego, because Raman hates showing he is vulnerable to anyone, which is why he is rude and mean to everyone around him including his parents - he cannot stand to look defeated which is what vulnerability is akin to him...

Ishita cannot keep him perpetually drunk to make him want her or say he misses her and right now she's using the words he said as the perfect excuse to reason with her own heart that is asking her to stay back.

She is hurt and that hurt is what is also making her want to protect herself now, she's allowed this man to destroy her once, she cannot allow that again...

In their airport confession scene, which I do say is a confession scene though the formal words werent uttered there we have Ishita say Raman introduced her to a new Ishita or a new facet of herself - she realized within her was an Ishita who is stubborn, who is capable of anger and can be volatile and a fighter - and that is what will I think slowly happen here.

Ishita who is running away for her own peace of mind and preservation at some point turn offensive too because the issues these two have cannot be solved only by the efforts or apology of just one - but for that to happen - they have to collide first - there has to be friction which cannot happen if Ishita plays martyr as you put it always or keeps trying to opt for escapism and when she realizes that it is a moot point to try and run now, when it would be futile to even try to do so - she would emerge to fight back and that is something I am hoping for...

Cause Raman in his anger and grief questioned her motherhood and stripped away the right she had to feel the loss of Ruhi, the pain of it - by claiming that pain, that loss, Ishita would reclaim her motherhood and that is I suppose what can help these two heal in the long run, cause issues kept on the backburner wont disappear, even if they seem to have resolved which is imperative for this marriage to revive and resuscitate.


Edited by QueSeraSera - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Zoya..interesting take..but i couldn't relate at all to ishita today.. even as a human.. and the problem lies in the fact that she has rarely been portrayed hu man and might not be in the future too...
Yes it was a cowardly act.. but she won't acknowledge it later..neither will anyone else..

Plus she did not once mention that she acknowledged what she hear d raman saying. .it was as if she was justifying her running away constantly by reminding herself of what he told her 7 yrs back.. and as if she didn't hear or care for the reality in front of her.. the reality being the shattered, soul dead raman lying in the bed before her...

I was okay with her running away but her helplessness was not expressed at all..it was the contrary.. she trying to run away and not cause more probs. .

I just see this as lazy writing. .or the confessions of a deeply confused, cowardly soul..which ishita is certainly not. ..😕
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Posted: 9 years ago
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My problem is not about running away or not returning

It is perfect

No one can return suddenly after such words

But she did not even think about what he said yesterday

That was a big failoo
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bscorp13

Zoya..interesting take..but i couldn't relate at all to ishita today.. even as a human.. and the problem lies in the fact that she has rarely been portrayed hu man and might not be in the future too...

Yes it was a cowardly act.. but she won't acknowledge it later..neither will anyone else..

Plus she did not once mention that she acknowledged what she hear d raman saying. .it was as if she was justifying her running away constantly by reminding herself of what he told her 7 yrs back.. and as if she didn't hear or care for the reality in front of her.. the reality being the shattered, soul dead raman lying in the bed before her...

I was okay with her running away but her helplessness was not expressed at all..it was the contrary.. she trying to run away and not cause more probs. .

I just see this as lazy writing. .or the confessions of a deeply confused, cowardly soul..which ishita is certainly not. ..😕



This is the thing. I totally respect what you say. But isn't Ishita's ' I can't cause problems' a running theme in her character. Shagun can stay, Adi can stay, even though they hate me, because I can't cause problems for Raman, and the family who want Adi back. She does this time and time again, and the Sauten track is a reminder of that. I think Ishita is a coward to a degree. She plays the martyr because she stays away from the idea, can Raman truly love me for me? This way she feels needed and loved without confronting this head on. We all know Raman loves Ishita for who she is, but a woman who has been tainted for years for who she is, isn't going to be convinced so easily. So again, she runs away from the issue, and she is running away today too.


I totally see where you are coming from though. I do. I wish the writers could spend more time consistently on these issues. These character flaws. That is something we most definitely can agree on
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: --mancityfan--

My problem is not about running away or not returning

It is perfect

No one can return suddenly after such words

But she did not even think about what he said yesterday

That was a big failoo


The cvs definitely need to flesh out the character flaws. That was the beauty of 11pm yhm. And to a degree the characterisations of that time slot are the ones I try to carry though. I wish this aspect was retained after the time slot change
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Originally posted by: Zoyamalik2005



This is the thing. I totally respect what you say. But isn't Ishita's ' I can't cause problems' a running theme in her character. Shagun can stay, Adi can stay, even though they hate me, because I can't cause problems for Raman, and the family who want Adi back. She does this time and time again, and the Sauten track is a reminder of that. I think Ishita is a coward to a degree. She plays the martyr because she stays away from the idea, can Raman truly love me for me? This way she feels needed and loved without confronting this head on. We all know Raman loves Ishita for who she is, but a woman who has been tainted for years for who she is, isn't going to be convinced so easily. So again, she runs away from the issue, and she is running away today too.


I totally see where you are coming from though. I do. I wish the writers could spend more time consistently on these issues. These character flaws. That is something we most definitely can agree on


Zoya my prob lies there. .I agree to the fundamental idea..but ishita has done this in the past but she never accepts then as flaws...and that has never been brought out in the show..it won't be in this case too..

I understand her quandary. ..but then she did the sane thing when she ran away with ruhi..but when Raman attempted to run away she lectured and called him a coward who was running from her probs. .

I wish she said something to that degree today..like..I want to stay...but i am so helpless because I do not know how you will react once you are sober.. you might hate me again etc..instead she said he hated her.. she was the cause of his probs etc and so she had no choice but to go..
Didn't make sense at all when the man in front of her said that he w as dead without her and how his life was never going to be the same since she was dead...

Lazy writing..or no consistency...one just couldn't empathize. .. just my pov
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Posted: 9 years ago
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nyc post zoya..
agree wid evry word of urs...
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Originally posted by: bscorp13


Zoya my prob lies there. .I agree to the fundamental idea..but ishita has done this in the past but she never accepts then as flaws...and that has never been brought out in the show..it won't be in this case too..

I understand her quandary. ..but then she did the sane thing when she ran away with ruhi..but when Raman attempted to run away she lectured and called him a coward who was running from her probs. .

I wish she said something to that degree today..like..I want to stay...but i am so helpless because I do not know how you will react once you are sober.. you might hate me again etc..instead she said he hated her.. she was the cause of his probs etc and so she had no choice but to go..
Didn't make sense at all when the man in front of her said that he w as dead without her and how his life was never going to be the same since she was dead...

Lazy writing..or no consistency...one just couldn't empathize. .. just my pov



If only they communicated as a couple the way we communicate about them. There would be no issues in the first place 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Wonderful post 👏
Like I said before ishita thinks so inferior about herself or thinks she is the cause for most of the problems in raman's life.

RAMAN did everything to make her feel wanted /loved and secure everytime but the words he said eventually are so etched in her mind and she can't forget that bcoz that's how the world made her feel worthless everytime except for raman and ruhi and with those words she went back to square one.

It's like raman built the bubble and he burst it too

Hearing the same from raman was like a confirmation for her that she is indeed nothing but a pain in everyone's life.

That's how any individual with any kind of inability be it physical or mental reacts...it's very tough to make them believe that they are worthy.

Honestly I was quite disappointed with the comments blaming why did she run away again after seeing raman in pain ...if we can see raman 's pain we should see to what extent she is in pain too.

As a ishra lover all I can say is they both are at fault definitely and the way they are dealing with it is so wrong but then that's how the show will run else it would be end of YHM
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