a nagging thought - Page 8

Originally posted by: -K.13-

Loved the comments by @theglamourgirl & @charminggenie

They kind of got me talking that somewhere Ishita & Raman don't truly understand each other as individuals. They understand the other as a co-parent, sibling, dutiful child, & so on, but in the show we have not seen a track solely focused on them deeply understanding the other. We thought child swap would get them closer to each other as a couple in love but that didn't happen. Confessions were done due to the pushing of the kids. And C started to touch on them understanding each other & openly seeing the other as a lover & individual of equal status because thus far they have mainly fulfilled the role of solemate, friend, & companion.

It's not just Raman here but Ishita also - they both need to be shaken to the fact they are a couple first & foremost...hopefully some day the CVs will oblige even if it's unintentional (most likely option).

Maybe with this ugly track they can accomplish it & salvage the couple? Ha - I joke! 😉

(This was me speaking in terms of season 1 or 2. Not the season I have tuned out of 😆)

Yes, u got it right .. its high time these 2 come out of all their roles n see each other as individuals i.e they should know that love they r longing for r the same persons or not.From the day1 we know Shags will return back to Raman at some or other pt n then he choosing Ishita over her as his true love should be the crux. He moved on when Shags was neg but some where he has that soft corner for her ,his old gud Shagi even though he is deeply in love with Ishu n now Shags returned back to him as whom he used to love and this separation is must for him to figure out whom he was striving for the entire life keeping aside both the ladies as his kids mothers. His first love ,which he dreamt of perfect life with her or Ishu ,who has made his life perfect or who gave him all the love which he wanted or he was longing through .I guess in this separation he will get to a pt where he can go back which he dreamt of in the past or to move forward n to move on he needs to get closure from his old gud Shags .Now its in his hands sort out get closure ,move on from that lil past too , n go to Ishu woo her , win her n get her back into his life not for kids n family but only for himself i.e as his lady .the relation only for themselves.

Hope I made some sense..

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Two cents on Raman , will keep it short or we may extrapolate everything and then it becomes bigger than fiction .

The character sketch had all these tendencies - anger, impulse, obsession, loyalty , control and many others. Problem is it's a story, show and a visual medium. After some point you need to resolve or show some progression for these traits. With Raman they play conflicts on those traits for drama but rather than resolving it with some introspection , they keep the lip and cover it up with some "good scene" , that gives the makers a chance to keep revisiting the trait again and again and we buy it all for that "good scene" and justify his actions by relating it to the trait ..completely missing out the character progression and it's linear flow with the story. Now because it largely involves Shagun and surrogancy , the whole trait pinches more but then when we recall how that particular trait has messed his actions, you realize that he hasn't learnt anything.

At this stage , I wonder did they got his love for Ishita right? Because the traits they play are the main ones that always hurt her. So, the man has not tried adjusting to her at all? Being understanding to her nature, perception and her core essence?

Presuming his behaviour for someone else carrying the child is a hit and miss. what If, that woman be living alone? He would always worry, try to keep a watch? Might even spend more time trying to understand her and to make suggestion, cater to her needs etc? Approach might be different but his obsession would be the same. With Shagun , it pinches us , hence they used the track. But he really always had this strong emotion for her and tbh I don't begrudge him, she is the mother of his two children , they had this intense equation , her brother is his bhai now, so somewhere for him , he takes in to the familiarity . I doubt he keeps a check on the sins of this lady because even with Romi he always used to brush them aside.

But the real scary question be, if ever Shagun had a realization of her sins in the past say like Romi would Raman be more forgiving towards her and what sort of equation he would have had with her? I am very curious about his perception of Ishita - the woman, wife and most importantly the love- how is that emotion distinct.

Don't know what I rambled, but this discussion was interesting. Sorry for interrupting.