CV's of YHM - This one's for you.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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This is my first topic regarding the show. I've never made one of my own, to appreciate or criticize. I think I should have made one long ago because in not doing so I've bottled up a lot and today it's going to all pour out. So excuse me if this gets a bit too long 😆.


I've loved Yeh Hai Mohabbatein from Day 1. I appreciated the depth and precision that the writers wrote the story with. What was most appealing about the show initially' was that it had balance. Both the male and female leads had equal importance, they were both human and BOTH made mistakes. They both had justified reasoning for their behavior and the aftermath of their actions were interesting. Each track, each scene had a meaning and lead to another interesting track. There were barely lose ends and every track was interconnected to another making it look like a perfect picture being painted.

One year into the show, the slot changed and trp's rising because of the same. And this trend setting show becomes like ANY other show on air. Using the same old tricks to garner trp's, using one wedding track (attempted - failed) one after the other, destroying the beautiful characters they themselves etched to justify a track which could be treated differently.

I am confused about why a show with so much to offer, with so many sensitive issues encompassing it, does it have to end up like any other daily soap. I am curious and I want answers so I am just going to write my questions down here. Not sure I'll ever get them but at least it'll be out of my system..

1. Why can't this be a show where both the leads are equally important at the same time? Why is Ishita made to look the righteous one every time. And Raman made to show making blunder after blunder? Is this because you think women are your only viewers and you need to give them a sense of empowerment. Just a heads up - Woman need to be made to feel equal and human. Not made to feel as if they are saintly beings who can never err. Ishita is allowed to make mistakes. Then feel bad about them, accept them. Raman should not be the scapegoat for every mistake that takes place in the track or in their relation. It makes Ishita Raman as a pair look weak and unbalanced.

2. Why approach sensitive issues when you cannot do anything but just touch the surface of it?

This show made brave attempts to highlight very mature issues. Which were also the base of the show like, infidelity, divorce, custody cases, nurture over nature and of course infertility. I have to give it to the writers to have almost perfectly shown the custody and infidelity issue. But this was when you were laying base of the show. What happens later?

Adi is a child who has been misguided for years. Who thinks of his father as an abuser, of his mom as the almighty and for her can be a counterpart in her misdeeds by trying and breaking his father and his now wife's relation. This is one scenario and out of no-where Adi goes to a camp only to come back reformed, ready to accept that Ishita isn't such a bad person and begins to questions his mother. How did the child change so quickly? When did he accept that his father was after all the right one and always loved him? Why did you skip the gradual change? What train do you have to catch that you cannot spare a week-long of episodes to highlight such an important part of the story.

In the same way, Ishita's insecurities about being infertile were the base issue of this show. The reason why she got married to Raman. So Ruhi could have a mother and she a child. And now it's brushed under the rug? She can suddenly become pregnant. No insecurity of fear in/ or even the right amount of happiness expected from her on knowing she can at least try. She was shown to be feeling rejected and undesired which could have lead to a beautiful track where the husband assures her of how much he desires or wants her.

But yet again this track is rushed and masked with comedy and one liners.

Why the fear to approach mature topics? Why is talking openly about infertility/ making love such a taboo? Why is it rather highlighted by bringing the gross and regressive - ghar ka chirag track rather than being progressive and make Ruhi the heiress.

Do you think your viewers are not ready to take in maturity? Most of us are well educated adults who know how the world came to be.

Marital rape was also touched on and brushed off again. Please do not make a joke of such sensitive issues if you do not have the guts to go ahead with them.

3. Why is every track started with such grandness and hype and ended abruptly.

The Mani track was amazingly scripted. Raman's insecurities from his previous relation were highlighted. They were even justified and could have been ended nicely by Ishita realizing what he went through and acknowledging it. Same way when Shagun came over to Bhalla house and Ishita had to undergo turmoil of bearing her, her feelings were never highlighted. At the end of all these important tracks Ishita and Raman had no conversation whatsoever and everything returns to becoming a comic fest. Why do the writers become lazy in giving better conclusions to the tracks that would end up making it look meaningful?

4. In this one year and few months -We've never had even ONE track that completely focused on Ishita and Raman only. It's always had other million tracks intersecting them and coming in the way. This show is about Mohabbatein well apparently' But when has even ONE track concentrated on the Mohabbat. Every romantic moment, conversation, date.. a small hug or kiss has been endlessly interrupted by something or someone. Why are viewers not given romance without interruptions? What are conversations, relation growth and romance being postponed for? We intellectual viewers unfortunately keep expecting it to be done for a reason. But that never happens. Instead it all piles down to humour. Even the confession is actually post Raman telling Ishita to get lost. And that rude and disgusting behavior was never justified or spoken about, rather became a joke to laugh about the next day.

5. Again. Why is every track made into a joke? Why can't the characters grow after every experience rather than destroy to justify tracks. If infertility is touched upon, give it the justified sensitivity and seriousness it needs. Do not play with it and make it into a joke because you want to satisfy your trp viewers. Believe me, you guys got the trp's because the show was loved for its brave and bold stories. And even now the viewer's stick to it hoping that all courage is not lost by the writing team.

Sorry for sounding like someone who has a million complains. I am a happy camper and easily convinced viewer. But for a show whose base was mature and not typical. Who has no lack of issues to raise.. like infertility, effect of divorce on the couple, on the kids, and so many others. You have an unending gold mine in your hands. Why would you waste all of that to go through a typical route and story? We viewers are waiting to see change, see something new. We're all growing, it's time you guys stop being scared and lazy and rather show us what we deserve and expect from this beautiful show which still has scope to rise without leaps, separations, unending drama's like others.

Lastly. This show has an amazingly talented star cast and the perfect leads. And of course the writing HAD always been its strongest point. We keep our hopes on all three and keep watching expecting that it'll surprise us like it did before. We hope you won't compromise on such a beautiful tale only because you think the viewers are not ready to see something new. On the contrary we're desperate for it.



P.S - I love this show. Have always been very positive or rather satisfied for most part of the shows journey. But that does not mean I cannot raise questions and have opinions. This topic is not meant for bashing the characters, actors or the team that works for the show..It's genuinely only for raising some queries about the show I love and adore. And it's as close to me as to them. If you can all give your own opinions in a civil manner, this topic is all for you. PLEASE do not make this a war post because I don't want my first genuine post to be locked.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hey Anku...You finally did it...
Firstly congratulations on your first topic...You should really start more and I remember you promising an OS too...We are all waiting...😊

You really covered all the important points that we discuss daily.. & You don't need me praising your comprehensive skills,right...😉

For me the first nail in the coffin started with the conclusion of Mani track...Unlike most of the forum I really loved that track...As you mentioned they have highlighted Raman's insecurities really well...How easy it is to assume things when you are scarred for life...
But where they failed is making Ishita realize & understand those things...
or supposedly if she did (because she refused kalakand & had ladoo) making it so insignificant and trivial...

& then the maritial rape thing...Kudos to the Cvs to bring that up...Sometimes sad reality of marriage...
They didn't butcher Raman for me there...somewhere I understood where he was coming from ...but the way they handled it ...they butchered Raman & Ishita for me...
Raman for not apolozing, Ishita for accepting the status cue without any say...

I don't want to highlight anything more because it would be rephrasing of your post but my only request these days is don't conclude the tracks in a comical way diluting all the intensity which is built till then...
I enjoy comedy like any other person but when it comes to resolving issues I would love to have them talk ...
Edited by Anuhyaa - 10 years ago
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You voiced everyones feeling 👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Anku first of all I am so very sorry for editing this so very late, life got in the way and I couldn't make it here in time and later I kinda forgot about it.

Once again really, really sorry.

I so agree with you about the show going down the drain, really it saddens me so much to see something I loved this much being ruined so spectacularly.

When I first saw a glimpse of this show, I remember it was a scene of Amma and Toshiji fighting in the passageway between their flats regarding something and found the whole thing too loud and OTT so changed the channels and moved away.

I thought this show isn't one for me, but later I came across it again when a sequence played in which Ishita and Raman were soaking in rain - there was attraction there sizzling and sparkling but there was also this stubbornness to these characters which was evident, something that made me sit back and take note of them, though I didn't bite the proverbial bullet just then too.

It was when I saw that cute little girl cry in the court and request the authorities to allow her to stay with a woman who was not related to her in either way but who made her feel loved and secured and I was hooked.

As I slowly got into the show I realized what I had been missing as I saw a pair who locked horns, who had misunderstandings but you could not term anyone wrong, you couldn't find a fault in their POVs, in their reasons and not just them but those around them.

Here was a show with sensible leads, reasonable leads - leads who could ACT & HAD CHEMISTRY!!!

Not just that the hero wasn't a mere prop or one of those extras who just stands there to occupy some space and kill some time - he had a role, a voice, a presence which was felt. His role had some sense and purpose, some meaning. He had sense and logic and you could identify with the man, even when he irked you like when he chose to stay mum for the sake of his son, how the love of his child made him desperate enough to break the hearts of all those people around him.

The woman wasn't an idol of sacrifice too, nor was she a doormat. When she was falsely accused, when her character was put to question - she went away with her mother and came back only when the man who she married came to fetch her, because he should have been the one who shouldn't have let her leave in the first place. Even when he sought justice for her and later stormed at her for not understanding what a perilous position he was in she was firm about the rights and wrongs...which she isn't now.

Being in love has altered the very grain of these characters we came to love and identify. With time and love, they were always meant to grow and nurture each other - fine no one alters completely, but what's changed now isn't likable. He yells and screams at her in front of everyone, asks her to get out of his home for no fault of hers and later even without a word of apology or explanation from his end she returns, he confesses his love for her instead and all is well?!

That leads would have communication issues is a given but is it too much to expect for them to talk on matters such as these which definitely cannot be termed trivial?

When a woman is insulted and made to leave her home by her husband in such a manner, would she go back there merrily as if nothing happened?

Is being in love with your wife apparently a way for you to get a license to insult her at the drop of a hat at your whim? Does loving your husband means you lose your self-respect too along with your heart to him?

Also I get it I do that being the elder son and bahu of the home they have certain responsibilities towards their family, they are now the parents of two kids so they cannot be setting off just because they want to, but is it really always necessary for the family to surround them? Is nothing private and personal for a couple anymore?

If the family walks in on them, by accident, it's another matter but it's like they all get a thrill here playing voyeurs? Couldn't the confession made by Ishita be kept just between the couple? Was applause from the MIL and kids necessary?

It almost makes me worried that they will stand outside the door of the couple' room on the night they consummate if they get a whiff of things, speaking of which - seriously just how come is it that everyone knows the status of this couple' sex life? Like really how? And when it changes I wonder if its gonna be national news too? Cause from the looks of it everyone has to know if these two have done it

Moreover, why is it necessary for the family to be kept in the loop about something as personal as this? Wasnt there a scene in this show when Ishita was aghast that Raman asked her how does Param know that they have not slept together in front of the family and now its like let everyone know this - whats the big deal? As it is everyone is bound to find out. I wont be shocked to see or know its Subbu who learns this next

I dont even get it who finds this humorous? I dont think any of us would do if it happened to us, the fun and comic elements of this show dont hold the charm of the good old days anymore nor do the one liners that Raman comes up with nowadays, which seem crude and insensitive really, or just empty words...

I don't even want to get into the technicalities cause the department's plain suck in their work but is it so hard to take some note, some precautions while editing?

The writing was the one aspect of this show which always stayed as its USP apart from the acting of the leads but its become so sloppy too.

The tracks just don't make sense, haven't since the stupid track when Mihika thought that she would rescue Shagun from the vile clutches of Ashok.

Characters keep disappearing and we just don't know where and how sometimes - Sarika, Mani, Raina...it's like they all had been figments of our imagination.

The biggest and I mean the biggest thing about this show was that it was addressing an issue that's rampant in today' society and yet a taboo to speak of - infertility - male or female and now it has made a joke of it.

While we saw Romi turn sterile thanks to his accident and later him be worried sick and even steal due to it, there has been no follow up about it after that - he continues to remain who he was, the acceptance of his family seemingly being enough for him to not be repentant for his actions towards Sarika and their unborn child.

Ishita' infertility - the cornerstone, the foundation of this show is addressed, yes but in a way as if it's not something that's life-altering for her, defining for her but merely a common cold that can be cured by some soup or something.

It was always assumed with the return of Subbu this issue would gain prominence and be thus explored but instead we see a stupid revenge track which doesn't make sense at all, neither does the fact that Toshiji who detested the man at sight because he was and is the ex of her DIL now chose him as the perfect partner for her daughter and based on what - one scene with a doctor she overheard and knowing he was at the right place at the right time once. This woman who could tell Subbu' mom she doesn't think her daughter is a burden treated her daughter exactly the way as if she is one in fact. What else could possibly explain her rush to tie Simi up with the first available guy huh?

It had seemed like with Subbu' return we would learn more of Ishita' past as well as what she must have gone through because of the rejection she faced starting from him owing to her infertility. How she coped up with what happened to her and got stronger and moved on, instead she is welcoming him into the family with smiles and open arms as her BIL now!

I have to share this - two episodes where Ishita and Raman spoke about her complications - one during their anniversary and once before that on a bench during a party held by one of Raman' friends when she overhears Raman and Shagun converse about Adi - they were beautiful.

On the first occasion, Ishita opened a part of herself to Raman, she allowed him a glimpse into her heart, her soul and yet she kept it to herself, when she said it is her problem, her issue - the fact she cannot conceive a child, become a mother...but on the next it wasn't the case.

On the next occasion as they spoke, when Raman mentioned there are chances of her being able to carry a child, that it was his gift to her - this hope, this chance at a miracle, it was beautiful...but now when again this topic is raised by Raman it doesn't hold the same beauty and sensitivity.

I understand they cannot show it on the slot due to various factors Raman saying these simple words - "Ishita lets have sex or I wanna sleep with you" but that's the crux of his current state - he wants to consummate his marriage with his wife who he is very much in love with, nothing wrong with that...but then why is the man speaking of making babies already?

Does he have no idea of what he is saying?

His wife has chances - slim as they maybe, which is a good thing no doubt but still not a guarantee of motherhood in her future. Can it not occur to him that speaking about having a child is like walking on a sword' edge here?

If Ishita cannot ever conceive or if she cannot do it as quickly as he expects or thinks it would happen what then?

It's just absurd that the issue which was this show' USP has become a joke now, one which lacks any punch and humor at that too.


Also do I even need to mention the issue of marital rape which came and went with a poof not once but TWICE on the show - the night Raman almost forced himself on Ishita was resolved with a silly sorry scene the morning after and Mihika Ashok case isnt even been shown...speaking of Ashok, how come a bankrupt man is financing Shagun & her kids' all expense trip to Australia, shouldnt he be ideally saving the clothes on his back and suing his brother for embezzlement rather than focus on Ishita and Raman and snatching their kids, no wonder his brother duped him, honestly Ass was begging for it, it just remains to be seen when he literally begs now.

In the end all I wanna say is I am so disappointed with this show which was once a must watch for me but now has become one of the many that it competes with when it once stood out in the crowd.

Edited by EkPaheli - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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👏 very well said. pl listen cvs
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Posted: 10 years ago
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what to say.
all you say absolutely right ,
and agree with you
TRP tu track sahi tur per complete kerne pre bhi raise hugi
many people follow this show from the beginning
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Posted: 10 years ago
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U touched my heart Anku...I jst luv YHM like any thing n I still wish to get the old YHM back...it's actually my experience tht whenevr I come across any new show with a diff concept,beautiful stry n talented actors...tht show belongs to Ekta...who later on make it a boring show jst to gain TRP's...I alwaz get disappointed by her...
But a bang on post!!! 👏👏👏

The queries u came up r the ones v r w8ting to b answered...
I so wish tht our CV's read ur this topic...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated. :)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks for posting this 👏

Wonderful post Anku! You have covered everything that most of the long term viewers have been feeling about the change in the tone of the show. I fell in love with YhM because of its writing and the ensemble cast. In indian Telly a modern, urban storyline is such a rarity and add to that the subtle, undertones of scenes .. YHM 11 pm was al that ...


And then everything just changed .. For worse ...with the addition of 7:30 pm slot... YHM has become another run of the mill desi soap with all bells and whistles of everything grand, especially melodrama... Why am I still sticking to the show I keep on asking.. It's because of IsHRa and tge ensemble cast... I still somehow believe in the Ishra story .. Still believe the same team that gave us 1 year or awesomeness cannot just simply let everything go down drain( we still see their occasional glimpses in few episodes) and as crazy as the Bhallas and iyers are.. They have become a part of my daily routine.. Sometimes that's hard to break.. And that's why even though I complain. Skip through certain chunks of episodes.. I keep on watching.. With the hope.. The hope of old magic that was YHM ... With the hope that we'll see some uninterrupted romance of the couple who are so much in love and needs atleast one track dedicated , like you put so well' to their 'mohabbat'

I wish the creatives truly read this.. We believe in their product .. The previous version .. They need to probably believe it too.. Not everything needs extra -decoration.. Some things are best left simple especially if they are already perfect the way it was.

Great post Anku !
Edited by -Gan- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Anku,
Excellent post Anku.. You have pretty much summed up what made us fall in love with YHM and how different it is post the time slot change.. You have also highlighted the points which have been troubling us since long which includes lack of proper closure to crucial tracks which were introduced..

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