Communication, rather lack of.... *UPDATED*-DT NT Pg31

-Gan- thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 10 years ago
#1

"The most important thing in communication is hearing what isn't being said."
Shannon L. Alder



"So the whole war is because we can't talk to each other."
Orson Scott Card


~Edit:
Yes finally the facade of stable relationship is chipping away, the invisible gaping hole of lack of communication is rearing its ugly head. And words were exchanged which were long overdue. This is that though we may casually say we trust a person, the fact remains that trust is not given, it's earned and when that trust gets muddled over and over again by half truths or lies, the foundation of it gets shaky. So when Ishita sees Raman with Shagun watching a 'romantic couple's movie' (which mother gives that to daughter to improve her romantic life? 🤢) her reaction stems from that insecurity she feels in her relationship with Raman these days. And good thing was atleast Raman prodded her to talk about it...and that led to some honest husband wife baring their soul exchane albeit in anger. But atleast some things were said... Now I hope that this is not forgotten tomorrow and we get some good scenes of meaningful communication about the emotions that led to them hurling accusations and counter accusations at each other.

That for me was the highlight of the episode as Ishra looked like a couple for a change. So I say, bring it on!

Ishru moment:


It was good to see a moment of silent love...yes it was manufactured...but I didnt care as I was craving for such moments for weeks now and more importantly, finally Ruhi reflecting on Ishita's love and care. Ofcourse that led to Shagun getting scared of losing her 'cash cow' child and opting for a restraining order.

Notes:
  1. Kostin for Raman...um you came to talk to your ex about your daughter missing school because of her modeling shoot and you agree to watch a video of that with your ex??!!! Are you kidding me? why oh why? Is Shagun's coffee that good?😕😡 (CVs you can't afford to continue butchering Raman just to manufacture 'situations' for drama.)

  2. Logic and YHM these days...audience reaction: The Pre-cap...so it takes a social worker to find out a legal loophole in the custody swap contract? Neel has also moved to the service apartment complex kya? As it seems like ever since they moved there everyone's braincells are dying, including the audience's. And Mihika seems more pro-active than the Ruhi's otherwise educated and smart parents to get the ball rolling to get Ruhi back in Bhalla house




Edited by -Gan- - 10 years ago

Created

Last reply

Replies

293

Views

19.7k

Users

35

Likes

1.5k

Frequent Posters

WhyAmIHereAgain thumbnail
10th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 10 years ago
#2
res

oh my god Gan...this is one the best collages of urs.. saachi...loved ..just loved all the collages...

that quote of urs... about things unsaid beign the main reason...so true so very true... i felt today ishita was more pissed becoz raman n shagun was together watching some movie..if the scenario ishita would have come across wud have been just raman n shagun talking/fighting...she wudnt have reacted the way she did... if only..if only watever is unsaid is being understood...

sorry ranted instead of waiting for ur updated version...coudnt control myself after seeing the collages n that quote..

ishru scene aaw my god...so beautiful...i had tears u know... 😭

will wait for ur update n discussions here...
Edited by shalz_123 - 10 years ago
Eyes-Wide-Shut thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 10 years ago
#3
Exam done!! Now I have so much time I don't know what to do with it. Anu I am here for our date albeit on my phone but here I am!! I will be be in and out because I am in the middle of running errands.

G Raman-Ishu fought? They look sad and angry :(
Edited by Eyes-Wide-Shut - 10 years ago
-K.13- thumbnail
10th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 10 years ago
#4
The good: I really liked today's argument because it was an actual argument between a frustrated couple. It's probably the realest fight they've shown us in ages. It was not Puttar aggressively yelling at Ishita for no fault of her own. Neither character looked like the villain in this fight, and at this point, I am grateful to the CVs for that. We saw Ishita finally voice her anger/frustration at the circumstances. We saw that Raman felt sidelined and that his fatherhood is again questioned by Ishita. FINALLY they spoke about the actual issues.

I did find it interesting about the nature of their fight and the after effects. Ishita's main focus/comfort is Ruhi while Raman's is Ishita. Ishita turns to Ruhi after her fight with Raman, and Raman came back to the room. Interesting no? To me...it's back to the actual premise of this track - Ishita realizing Ishima & wife are not co-dependent, and Raman realizing how to balance dad, husband, & protector (aka no secrets).

The bad: The blatantly obvious creation of the perfect storm to get create a MU via tape switch-a-roo & Ruhi getting hurt.

The ugly: The precap & SBB/SBS. Leads + Neil = dumb. New character = genius. No logic added to disproving the validity of the contract. Puttar is mute.

The CVs must believe we're all nincompoops.

Me:



Notes: Adi is apparently out of sight & out of mind. Ishita made the decision to not reverse the swap because Adi was suicidal. I still believe it was her protector/motherly instinct that made her turn her face to her daughter for Adi & it was not just out of her love for Raman because that doesn't fit in her character. But now what will happen to Adi if they are able to disprove the contract? I'm not going to even try to apply logic about how they can get custody of both kids...

Raman started the mess & gave up decision making out of frustration. Ishita worsened the situation & made the hard decision. Ishita is now rectifying it. When will Puttar?

Gan - I love all your screenshots & collages...especially that last one! Sorry for un-resing before you updated your post today! I just have to dash soon! 😃

🤗 for all the fun times yesterday & every other time with you ladies! You all rock and make watching this show way more entertaining & positive than it sometimes appears to be on screen!
Edited by krishy13 - 10 years ago
OnePiece thumbnail
15th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail Fascinator 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 10 years ago
#5
res to the dumbness!!
updated on page 13😊
Edited by OnePiece - 10 years ago
K.S. thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 10 years ago
#6
Beautiful collages and quotes...
super duper ishra fight..just loved it..
ishru scene..jealousy ishita...totally rocking episode..
beckysharp thumbnail
10th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail
Posted: 10 years ago
#7

Originally posted by: Eyes-Wide-Shut

Exam done!! Now I have so much time I don't know what to do with it. Anu I am here for our date albeit on my phone but here I am!! I will be be in and out because I am in the middle of running errands.

G Raman-Ishu fought? They look sad and angry :(


Beautiful collages Gan, the Ishru one is really wonderful. The episode had it's moments. At least puttar and biwi communicated ! Although, through angry words, at least they voiced out something That was bothering both of them !

Am looking forward to early resolution and quick end of this track, which seems to be trying everyone's patience and level of tolerance !

Shaggy n her shenanigans are now way beyond my level of tolerance !

Welcome back, Doc ! 🤗
Edited by beckysharp - 10 years ago
WhyAmIHereAgain thumbnail
10th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 10 years ago
#8
edited above...somewhat...m getting very emotional today...
welcome back Doc...hope exams were rocking...
RomComFan thumbnail
10th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail Networker 2 Thumbnail
Posted: 10 years ago
#9
Res... to distances and proximity- both physical and mental, and to finally speaking your mind - even in the harshest of terms.😔

-----EDIT----

G, the collages... so beautiful... do I even need to tell you which one is my favorite? 😉 Gawd our little baby was so cute today, and so good for my heart to see that 'statue' scene- I needed that ISHRU kiss as much as Ishu did I think.

The scene with SHARAM... I'm not even going to go there because I'm not up to ranting today... it was what it was, completely unacceptable. He knew it too, which is why the ISHRA fight started off as him provoking her for a reaction. The fight itself was quite interesting to me, not for the specific words as much as the passion behind them. He provoked , pushed and pulled until she finally burst. For it was a reminder of the golden days of YHM, even back to before they married.

They are both passionate people in their essence , it's just that Raman is more vocal and demonstrative of that in life in general, a little vicious in the best way- especially in business and in his fights. But Ishu, she kind of pours all that passion into her relationships and transforms it form something a little volatile to something more understated and calm... but she is just as volatile as him. Remember in that airport scene, one of statements was that he introduced her to an Ishita she didn't know existed before him. The Ishita Iyer we were introduced to at the start was very sweet. Whoever she was before we knew her we'll find out soon I suppose, but in her preliminary encounters with Raman, when fighting for Ru she became just as vicious as him, flinging accusations left and right unmindful of any consequence.

And even after their marriage, especially before the 'love realization' she was just as passionate as him in her rebuttals and insults,they were a a very well matched pair. But, once she started falling in love, she pulled back that passion, transformed it into something a little softer and that's the persona that she continues to maintain. Raman on the other hand, try as he might to do the same, can't control that aspect of himself the same way. But then when it comes to their fights, the real fights, not the one sided screaming matches of late- then they both fight dirty, they kick and scratch and try to maim- because no one knows the other's weak spot as much a their love and neither of them are willing to take it way. I missed this. Completely unhealthy as it is, I missed it... because it seems that's the only way they really communicate these days.

The fighting and them mention of Raman's harshens in his battles with Ishita that is not present in his battles wit Shagun actially reminded me of when this whole child swap drama started. When Shagun came to take Ru away and Raman yelled, Shagun said something along the lines of 'don't yell at me, I'm not your wife' ... I believe this was around the same time as the 'don't touch me' bit Shagun delivered as well. That sentence is indicative of Shagun's awareness of the kid of reactions that Raman can have and is reminding him that she will not tolerate it like Ishita. But how does she know? Certainly, she never encountered this passionate RKB during the days of their marriage, and his battles with her after becoming RKB though bitter were more full of sarcastic remarks and threats... never the kind of outbursts that Ishita has been subject to, at least not on a regular basis. so it must have been her observation of the ISHRA union,... she sure does quite a lot of observing of them, so that's not hard to fathom.

So why is he harsher with her then Shagun? There is the aspect of 'right', he feels he has the right to be harsher because she is his wife, that she will understand and take it... but then what about the viciousness before they fell in love, before they married? Why did he react with more passion towards Ishita then Shagun, right from the start? For me, a part of that answer at least lies in him recognizing a kindred spirit in her. She is just as passionate as him and she will give as good as she gets, without resulting to theatrics she will reach for the mud as much as he does and engage him in a way that is both stimulating and freeing for them both.

From the beginning, they saw in each other that little spark of recognition of a similarly battered and broken soul- this allowed them to be open with the other person in a way that they could never be with someone else- so whether they were mean and rude and crass or sweet and sensitive , they knew this other person, this stranger at the start, would give them back what they needed from that exchange, would match them word for word.

And though Ishita tried to glaze over this part of herself with her benevolence after recognizing her love, that part of her was still there, that part of her he introduced her to- just itching to come out at the right provocation... and that's what he did today. So yes, he was a bit condescending, insensitive and rude... but then that's what she needed him to be at the moment. And that's why they are a matched set...always.




#88 more regular episodes until 500th
#four whole months
#Deforestation has begun
#But still the gel
#Can the brain come out of storage too?
#It's been away too long
#Puttar fan girls be missing the wit and charm
#come back to us Puttar
#Only you can save us from she of little blouse material
#Have some pity
#Puttar come back


Edited by RomComFan - 10 years ago
K.S. thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 10 years ago
#10

Originally posted by: beckysharp



Welcome back, Doc ! 🤗

totally hubby wife fight...:))

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".