Dear Son - RKB - Page 4

Originally posted by: RomComFan

I have loved everyone's posts this weekend.. .i just needed some time to process my disappointment. I'm not even mad, I was so disappointed by the track. The fact that a show which targets and maintains a largely female fan base, which initially claimed to portray a 'different sort of love story' then takes such a typical, demeaning route is very frustrating. We deserve better.

As for today, I am just going to ramble on some things that struck me as I tried to wrap my head around the last several episodes. I hope that you can indulge me.

Initially I was of the group that advocated Ishita packing up and leaving the Bhalla household , leaving the family to their own devices. I no longer feel that is right- ishita needs to fight, not for her man or her family but for herself. And she needs to fight smart- to know the enemy is to defeat the enemy so why not beat SHADI at their own game using the same tactics? Ishita can be more cunning then SHADHI, she can play a double game as well as them i am sure- so why not give them a taste of their own medicine. She is an educated woman who found her way into the hearts of a family of wherein most of them were objecting her entrance. She finally found the loves of her life, a home in which she is essential and the life she has always deserved- why should she walk away from all that to entertain the whims of a woman who uses men like tissue paper and her easily manipulated spawn? I think she should stay in her house and majke them dance to her tune, she certainly has enough motive to make it happen.

As for RKB, I really hope that the flickers of intelligence that seemed to reemerge in his eyes today do not disappear once more upon the return of the prodigal son and his baggage. Raman needs to come to his own realization of the reality of his situation and become his own knight in shining armor rather then expecting Ishita to rescue and reaffirm this relationship as she has almost every other relationship in his life. And much like all of you I hope that he becomes a parent to his son rather then the adoring friend he is now being. If I recall correctly, the idea of parenting and being a good parent to Adhi being defined by providing discipline and structure and not giving into his every whim was touched during the accident track, as well as the boiling water (🤢) incident. But in each instance, it was mentioned and never fully followed through as soon as the next 'incident' emerged. RKB needs to come to this realization on his own and follow through or he will forever be cleaning up his son's mess. This kind of inconsistent 'parenting' can also lead to resentment between Adhi & Ruhi, something that is already showing the seeds of growth.

#22 normal episodes until ISHRAnniversary!😳

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Originally posted by: krishy13

Oh Doc (if I may call you that)...You may call me doc or give me any name you wish 😃

This is an absolutely beautiful piece of writing! 👏 I'm so impressed that this is what you can come up with after days of studying - usually after like 7 hours of studying, I'm a total wreck! lol haven't achieved much today as I am preoccupied with a few things and then this thought of what it is to be a 'man' and the importance of father-son relationship dawned on me so I messaged G and she said I should go ahead and make a post...so here it is! 😃 I am wreck after 4 hours of studying so you are doing great buddy. 😃

No matter how frustrated I get at the OTT drama for this show, I am still attached to the simple beauty of the concepts. The current track and the accident track highlighted a really important thing - what is the role of a father? This track takes it farther by asking - what is the role of a man in a family? Who does he owe his allegiance to the most - his parents? wife? kids? Can a man even pick between all these entities? Exactly! These were the questions that were going through my mind and I feel that society at large needs to explore the role of family unit in brining up a child especially the importance of fathers. In the states, the African American population is greatly affected by the absence of fathers. It is disheartening to witness young talented individuals turn to the life of crime due to lack of support and parental guidance. I had mentioned this earlier on G's thread and I will mention it again, we as a society are failing our men.

I mentioned this in a response in Gan's thread, but feels it fits with the message you are trying to convey... Indian television glorifies a mother-child relationship because Indian TV for the most part is female-centric, catering to an audience of largely females. YHM is set apart because it also brings into play the dynamics of a father's responsibility towards his children. Is a father supposed to be a doting dad or disciplinarian? How does he find a balance between these roles?

YHM takes these questions even farther - how does a divorced father find a balance between being a doting dad and disciplinarian? In Raman's case - finding a balance is even harder due to the hatred that has been instilled in his son. I don't think Raman is blind to please Adi like he was in the accident track. Here, we see a Raman who is just trying to hold on. He wants to bring Adi into his family so he can help him because he has seen that his son is disturbed. However, in doing so he is slowly being forced to actively find a balance between his wife, daughter, family, and son.

It's this core struggle that Puttar is facing right now that keeps me from totally hating him. Yes, I hate his passiveness right now, but then how can any human always be expected to immediately make the right decision always? Exactly! The reason I am able to look past this putter's behavior is because of the very reason you pointed out. He stands at a juncture where no choice is easy but a choice he must make. It is incredibly difficult to 1) accept that your child is innocent no more and is headed down to path of criminality 2) to chose actively separate yourself from your child irrespective of it being the right choice. Right decisions and choices in life are often difficult and take a lot of courage. It takes time, love, support and resilience to make the difficult choices in life and puttar will! #Ibelieve

People often mock that how can Raman be such a successful CEO when he clearly can't see how bad his son is. I don't think it's so hard to believe that Raman is a successful CEO but still struggles in his personal life. Even though we often see Raman mixing personal & professional life (aka giving Ashok contracts in exchange for releasing his rights on Adi), work is still a separate entity for Raman. I have seens tons of people who are very successful at work but whose personal lives are in shambles. Professional life is devoid of emotions to a large extend, personal life is difficult because it's personal and full of raw emotions. In the OR, I do not think twice before cutting open someone, giving a small dose of benadryl to my niece has my heart racing and I find myself reading side effects of Benadryl for crying out loud. 😆

Raman may make a few more bad decisions, like in the accident track, but he will eventually 'rise from the ashes' as THE RKB - the one who can balance his roles as a son, husband, parent, and friend. While it sucks that so much injustice is being done to Ishita at this time, I believe that she too can come out stronger from this fiasco as a wife, daughter-in-law, ishima, and step-mother (why stepmother? because she too currently hopes to become ishima to Adi which may not happen for a while if ever). They will come out stronger, there isn't another choice! We will get a stronger RKB and JKR. Also a step mom is fine, we can't find a happy ending to every problem in our life, if everything ended in happiness we would all be in Disneyland. 😃

For both of them, it's better late than never.

Again - thanks for this wonderful write up and for allowing me to post verbal diarrhea on your thread! ❤️ I heart the 'verbal diarrhea', do it more often! 😃

Originally posted by: RomComFan

RES...

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This is so beautiful Doc, I am so glad you decided to pop in. It's very poignant, reads very honest and certainly contains the kin of message I wish could be imparted between father nad son. I really love the idea of a real letter, I know that's close to your heart as well. The little nuggets about ISHRU, said in passing but expressing so beautifully the truth and depth of the bond they all share. I am really very impressed. Anu! My BAE I can't even begin to tell you how much I miss chit chatting with you, I can't wait for this Goddamn exam to be done so I can stalk everyone and spam G's thread everyday. 😳 Oh stop it with the unnecessary praise, I am just glad you enjoyed reading it, and mu love for letters. *sigh* 😆

As for your posts G- what can I say? I never thought I could appreciate a collage on Shagun so much... let's just leave it at that!🤣 G just lifts everyone's mood up with her collages 😳

I have loved everyone's posts this weekend.. .i just needed some time to process my disappointment. I'm not even mad, I was so disappointed by the track. The fact that a show which targets and maintains a largely female fan base, which initially claimed to portray a 'different sort of love story' then takes such a typical, demeaning route is very frustrating. We deserve better. We do deserve better and more so than us the talented actors deserve better because this show has a lot of potential, if they just think outside the box and put in a little more thought this show could be a game changer on Indian TV!

As for today, I am just going to ramble on some things that struck me as I tried to wrap my head around the last several episodes. I hope that you can indulge me. You can 'ramble' away to your heart's pleasure, we are always waiting to read your brilliant take on our beloved show.

Initially I was of the group that advocated Ishita packing up and leaving the Bhalla household , leaving the family to their own devices. I no longer feel that is right- ishita needs to fight, not for her man or her family but for herself. And she needs to fight smart- to know the enemy is to defeat the enemy so why not beat SHADHI at their own game using the same tactics? Ishita can be more cunning then SHADHI, she can play a double game as well as them i am sure- so why not give them a taste of their own medicine. She is an educated woman who found her way into the hearts of a family of wherein most of them were objecting her entrance. She finally found the loves of her life, a home in which she is essential and the life she has always deserved- why should she walk away from all that to entertain the whims of a woman who uses men like tissue paper and her easily manipulated spawn? I think she should stay in her house and make them dance to her tune, she certainly has enough motive to make it happen. I do not know where I stand on this, on one hand I want her to pack up, look at RKB and tell him 'to go f**K himself' and walk out with Ruhi, for a man of words without action is no man at all. All those promises became hallow because when push came to shove he didn't stand up for her in front of his mother's demands. On the other hand, I see your point of Ishita staying and claiming what's hers and in the process show Shagun her place. I honestly wouldn't mind either scenario to play out so long as Ishita finds her backbone and sheds the 'bechari avtar'

As for RKB, I really hope that the flickers of intelligence that seemed to reemerge in his eyes today do not disappear once more upon the return of the prodigal son and his baggage. Raman needs to come to his own realization of the reality of his situation and become his own knight in shining armor rather then expecting Ishita to rescue and reaffirm this relationship as she has almost every other relationship in his life. And much like all of you I hope that he becomes a parent to his son rather then the adoring friend he is now being. If I recall correctly, the idea of parenting and being a good parent to Adhi being defined by providing discipline and structure and not giving into his every whim was touched during the accident track, as well as the boiling water (🤢) incident. But in each instance, it was mentioned and never fully followed through as soon as the next 'incident' emerged. RKB needs to come to this realization on his own and follow through or he will forever be cleaning up his son's mess. This kind of inconsistent 'parenting' can also lead to resentment between Adhi & Ruhi, something that is already showing the seeds of growth. Sigh RKB! My puttar! I have so many feels for him that I just can't get myself to think about him rationally. But I agree Anu, he needs to be a parent and a responsible one at that!

But to be honest as much I want all this happen, I have serious doubts as to the major push that will make it all so. I think the most likely catalyst will be Ruhi being hurt by SHADHI and her parents witnessing that act. The little hand that joined their hearts together is the one that will force them to take up their armor and protect her against the intruders in their happy home.

The mention of Lohri in today's episode and the importance it has to the ISHRARU family unit also can't be ignored, I do believe that is the event where the climax of this track will take place. I know that the ISHRA that emerge from the carnage of this battlewill be stronger and more than those that entered, but I do hope that the CVs give this track a proper conclusion and address some of the most stinging issues that have loomed over this track and the ones previous through proper , honest communication. They will emerge stonger but I want a proper closure, I want them to communicate. I want Ishita to tell Raman that he was a jerk, those words hurt, he should have supported her and I want Raman to open up about his insecurities, admit to his shortcomings and demand more time from her so they can make this relationship work. NO MORE NOK JHOK TILL A CONVERSATION HAPPENS!

ISHRA need to recognize that they need to be their own heroes, as well as a shield of protection for their daughter and life- because as much as they are a unit they are also two very strong, capable, intelligent individuals being manipulated by a woman who only sees RKB as a dollar sign. That simply makes no sense at all. AMEN SISTA!

On a completely different note- Simmi looked really pretty today...😆 Really? I haven't watched the episode but yay for Simmy looking pretty!

Here's hoping for a twist in the story that will finally make it worth enjoying again.

#22 normal episodes until ISHRAnniversary!😳


And because sometimes words are not enough:

For G and your amazing contribution to this thread..


For Doc and your incomparable skill with the written word:


And for the both of your for all your efforts.. always:

Originally posted by: krishy13

Just went on Twitter and saw that your post has gotten some love, Doc! People are tagging some of Ekta's Cvs encouraging them to read this! 👍🏼

Here's just one instance...

https://mobile.twitter.com/search/?q=%23YHM&s=hash

I'm sure it's happened before to your writing but thought I would share this with you as a little board-studying/life pick-me-up!

Originally posted by: nb.neha

Beautiful :) loved reading every word. As of now the fear of loosing adi has engulfed raman so much such that he inspite of knowing the reality chooses to tread on the opposite path. He knows ishita wasn't wrong , he knows shagun is behind the fiasco , he knows ishita doesnt needs to apologise but he still can't do anything as his love for aditya has over powered his soul :(

Adi ke liye mera lagaav kum hi nai hota. ... this line shows his blind love for adI , his desperation to get his son's love. In a way it's sad. But can he or does he really wants to destroy his family life bcoz of Adi? He is like a puppet whoz strings are attached to aditya. These strings can be cut only by raman himself. This is where the letting go part comes into play. Hope raman realises his follies n also with a heavy lets adi go so that he too can understand reality at some point in life.

Originally posted by: RomComFan

RES...

---EDIT---

This is so beautiful Doc, I am so glad you decided to pop in. It's very poignant, reads very honest and certainly contains the kin of message I wish could be imparted between father nad son. I really love the idea of a real letter, I know that's close to your heart as well. The little nuggets about ISHRU, said in passing but expressing so beautifully the truth and depth of the bond they all share. I am really very impressed.

As for your posts G- what can I say? I never thought I could appreciate a collage on Shagun so much... let's just leave it at that!🤣

I have loved everyone's posts this weekend.. .i just needed some time to process my disappointment. I'm not even mad, I was so disappointed by the track. The fact that a show which targets and maintains a largely female fan base, which initially claimed to portray a 'different sort of love story' then takes such a typical, demeaning route is very frustrating. We deserve better.

As for today, I am just going to ramble on some things that struck me as I tried to wrap my head around the last several episodes. I hope that you can indulge me.

Initially I was of the group that advocated Ishita packing up and leaving the Bhalla household , leaving the family to their own devices. I no longer feel that is right- ishita needs to fight, not for her man or her family but for herself. And she needs to fight smart- to know the enemy is to defeat the enemy so why not beat SHADHI at their own game using the same tactics? Ishita can be more cunning then SHADHI, she can play a double game as well as them i am sure- so why not give them a taste of their own medicine. She is an educated woman who found her way into the hearts of a family of wherein most of them were objecting her entrance. She finally found the loves of her life, a home in which she is essential and the life she has always deserved- why should she walk away from all that to entertain the whims of a woman who uses men like tissue paper and her easily manipulated spawn? I think she should stay in her house and make them dance to her tune, she certainly has enough motive to make it happen.

As for RKB, I really hope that the flickers of intelligence that seemed to reemerge in his eyes today do not disappear once more upon the return of the prodigal son and his baggage. Raman needs to come to his own realization of the reality of his situation and become his own knight in shining armor rather then expecting Ishita to rescue and reaffirm this relationship as she has almost every other relationship in his life. And much like all of you I hope that he becomes a parent to his son rather then the adoring friend he is now being. If I recall correctly, the idea of parenting and being a good parent to Adhi being defined by providing discipline and structure and not giving into his every whim was touched during the accident track, as well as the boiling water (🤢) incident. But in each instance, it was mentioned and never fully followed through as soon as the next 'incident' emerged. RKB needs to come to this realization on his own and follow through or he will forever be cleaning up his son's mess. This kind of inconsistent 'parenting' can also lead to resentment between Adhi & Ruhi, something that is already showing the seeds of growth.

But to be honest as much I want all this happen, I have serious doubts as to the major push that will make it all so. I think the most likely catalyst will be Ruhi being hurt by SHADHI and her parents witnessing that act. The little hand that joined their hearts together is the one that will force them to take up their armor and protect her against the intruders in their happy home.

The mention of Lohri in today's episode and the importance it has to the ISHRARU family unit also can't be ignored, I do believe that is the event where the climax of this track will take place. I know that the ISHRA that emerge from the carnage of this battlewill be stronger and more than those that entered, but I do hope that the CVs give this track a proper conclusion and address some of the most stinging issues that have loomed over this track and the ones previous through proper , honest communication.

ISHRA need to recognize that they need to be their own heroes, as well as a shield of protection for their daughter and life- because as much as they are a unit they are also two very strong, capable, intelligent individuals being manipulated by a woman who only sees RKB as a dollar sign. That simply makes no sense at all.

On a completely different note- Simmi looked really pretty today...😆

Here's hoping for a twist in the story that will finally make it worth enjoying again.

#22 normal episodes until ISHRAnniversary!😳


And because sometimes words are not enough:

For G and your amazing contribution to this thread..

Originally posted by: krishy13

Oh Doc (if I may call you that)...

This is an absolutely beautiful piece of writing! 👏 I'm so impressed that this is what you can come up with after days of studying - usually after like 7 hours of studying, I'm a total wreck!

No matter how frustrated I get at the OTT drama for this show, I am still attached to the simple beauty of the concepts. The current track and the accident track highlighted a really important thing - what is the role of a father? This track takes it farther by asking - what is the role of a man in a family? Who does he owe his allegiance to the most - his parents? wife? kids? Can a man even pick between all these entities?

I mentioned this in a response in Gan's thread, but feels it fits with the message you are trying to convey... Indian television glorifies a mother-child relationship because Indian TV for the most part is female-centric, catering to an audience of largely females. YHM is set apart because it also brings into play the dynamics of a father's responsibility towards his children. Is a father supposed to be a doting dad or disciplinarian? How does he find a balance between these roles?

YHM takes these questions even farther - how does a divorced father find a balance between being a doting dad and disciplinarian? In Raman's case - finding a balance is even harder due to the hatred that has been instilled in his son. I don't think Raman is blind to please Adi like he was in the accident track. Here, we see a Raman who is just trying to hold on. He wants to bring Adi into his family so he can help him because he has seen that his son is disturbed. However, in doing so he is slowly being forced to actively find a balance between his wife, daughter, family, and son.

It's this core struggle that Puttar is facing right now that keeps me from totally hating him. Yes, I hate his passiveness right now, but then how can any human always be expected to immediately make the right decision always?

People often mock that how can Raman be such a successful CEO when he clearly can't see how bad his son is. I don't think it's so hard to believe that Raman is a successful CEO but still struggles in his personal life. Even though we often see Raman mixing personal & professional life (aka giving Ashok contracts in exchange for releasing his rights on Adi), work is still a separate entity for Raman. I have seens tons of people who are very successful at work but whose personal lives are in shambles.

Raman may make a few more bad decisions, like in the accident track, but he will eventually 'rise from the ashes' as THE RKB - the one who can balance his roles as a son, husband, parent, and friend. While it sucks that so much injustice is being done to Ishita at this time, I believe that she too can come out stronger from this fiasco as a wife, daughter-in-law, ishima, and step-mother (why stepmother? because she too currently hopes to become ishima to Adi which may not happen for a while if ever).

For both of them, it's better late than never.

Again - thanks for this wonderful write up and for allowing me to post verbal diarrhea on your thread! ❤️

Originally posted by: yshu8

Beautifully portrayed... This is exactly wat CVS need to convey through this track rather than turning him into a majboor baap .wondering how it wud look if raman can actually say this to adi in the soap...fact yet so convincing ... So far read so many posts on ishita's POV but glad u brought out an unseen or rather an under current dimension of the track.thank u