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Posted: 10 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: gravity23


Exactly! Lovely Point Wings...something I'd missed..Ishita is RUHI's Iishima..she never once said she wanted to be ADI'S Ishima too...dnt the CVs have a record of previous scripts or something? or they just burn it once the trps shoot up for the day?

Yup..THAT TOO..that faraway HURT look..I was pissed that he went into a long-winded discussion of his HEARTBREAK when the vamp who caused it, was standing two feet away...Why give the bitch the pleasure of seeing she STILL affects you?? That's such an INSULT to ur current life..ur current partner...horrible

true, I mean how cud he even let that woman know he is still affected by her, dats sick, a huge mistake, can't b taken...but then he mentioned that ishita is the one who healed him but of no use ,the expression on that vamps face made me feel bad, as if he is not over her yet
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: teenager08

I watched the epi in the hope that in the starting we'd get some nice couple moments between the leads before this cheekhne chillane ka drama starts but woww.. I was in for a surprise. :O :/ 2 mins into the epi and all of it began. They could have atleast given a nice outing to the couple. :S Just who is writing the screen play of the show? Are they the same people who etched out some brillianlt epis during Adi's accident track, or during Ruhi's custody in the beginning? Or for that matter, some months ago Raman and Ishita's blossoming romance despite ALL the tensions? Im having serious doubts. :S

But i must thankyou for this thread @gravity.. Helps me skip the epi without having to worry about skipping the romance. ;)

Coming back to the epi.. I was disappointed ki they didn't show some romance before the fight started lekin the rest of it, it was considerably a watchable epi. The whole fight i was so pissed off at Raman for shouting on Ishita lekin after the epi i realise both are right in their own ways and there is no way where i can say okay this is where Ishita's wrong and Raman is wrong. Both are wrong enough to discuss the matter in front of Shagun but both were right in the substance they were fighting for. Ishita wanted Mihir to follow his heart while Raman knew this way he would only be lead into more darkness considering the facts that 1) he had been in the same situation before, and 2) he knew Mihir and his nature better than what Ishita did.

Both Raman and Ishita said inappropriate things to each other (Raman crossed the lines a tad bit more than Ishita did lekin Ishita has already crossed some lines with that anniversary celebrations that for once, i don't think Raman is THAT wrong.) Ishita said Raman ran away from Shagun too (that took Raman by a surprise and honestly i didn't think or expect Ishita to go that far on this Mihir ka drama) and Raman said the harshest words possible. "How can u be so dumb" Sorry Raman. U don't talk with ur wife in sucha tone that too infront of ur ex-wife. :/

So all in all, that war of words i did not find it entire out of the blue. The context of the fight was, lekin i have myself seen randomest of topics getting turned into ugly fights so i wasn't too much affected by it.
Even the morning room scene i found it quite normal. Such fights happen and when Raman said "ab kya usko dekh ke tumse baat karu" it kind of justified Raman's such outburst for me but then i wouldn't say this justification negates the fact that what happened in front of Raman's ex was wrong.
But then it somehow it put forward Raman's POV that is his ex his just too non-existent for me so yeah it's okayy. :P (this is the die hard fan of Raman in me speaking. :P)

Ishita for the first time was factually right throughout.
All in all, a well etched out fight i would say. Intelligent script writing where the creatives showed no one is right or wrong and it's just the difference of opinions and more importantly, temperament of the couple.

Some side notes :
1) Ashok-Mihika-Suraj were H. I. L. A. R. I. O. U. S. throughout. I almost died laughing seeing Sangram's overacting and Mihika acting too smart. =)) But this will be taken to the point of no return by the CV's when they'll let Mihir know about it. So all this laughter is going to turned into 3rd degree torture soon i guess. :|

2) Vandu my darlinggg. :D where were u all this while haa? I wanted Ishita to lecture Vandu about her POV than amma and im sure Vandu would have asked Ishita the right questions. She was so firm my godd, almost demanding Ishita to keep her personal life private, totally totallyyy loveddd her. :D

3) Raman's dialogues just showed how much he was smitten by Ishita. I loved the subtle undertone of his love for Ishita in all the words he took out from his mouth today. :') Very romanticc. :D
"Pata hai tere chakkar me Madrasan se lad kar aaya hu main?"
"Chalta hu main ab. Madrasan se baat karne. Varna tera dil toh thik ho jaega Madrasan pata nahi mera kya haal karegi"
"Ab Shagun ko dekh kar tumse baat karni padegi kya?"
"Bohot gussa bhara hai. Kahi na kahi toh nikalna padega na. *looking at his madrasan* hahaha the romantic in me saw the love in between the scenes also. Hahaha. :D :P

Now all im waiting for is Raman Ishita patch up. So far, this doesn't seem THAT bad to me so yeah, looking forward to the entire drama. Just wished Shagun created ripples living outside the Bhalla House. She living there is just too much for me to handle. :| kills the whole fun of watching the show. :|


Forget THAT T...Im just wondering if they're the SAME writers who caused an OVERLOAD of IshRa romance despite this horrendous track..and GAVE US THE YUMMY Parikrama scene barely TWO DAYS AGO...I wonder!!

Thank you :)

See...I was disappointed with Raman yelling at Ishita..coz he is the one with a short fuse..I dont even care which of them turned out to be right, had the fight ensued in their BEDROOM..But SHAGUN ke saamne? Very offending, it was!! Also, I feel Raman should not decide things for Mihir..being in the same position also, diff ppl handle diff things in their own ways...Raman's argument didnt lack the punch..but the TONE and the total lack of judgment in discussing it with HIS EX-WIFE around makes him lose ANY points he cudve scored on that ground...it really made it seem like Ishita had NO standing in his life...

Yes...I agree on that count...Ishita bhi kuch kam nahin hai...usne bhi pehle apni manmaani ki hai...but jab woh pehle yeh sab karti thi toh Raman lattoo huey pada rehta tha..and now he has a prob with the SAME Ishita he was praising so HIGHLY?? INCONGRUENT, NO?? I will b honest..Raman HOLLERING like that instead of his even-pitched snarkiness loses some of the charm, for me atleast...THE CONTEXT WAS NOT EVN WORTH FIGHTING ABOUT...Let alone with Shagun present there

Hehehe...Im a die-hard fan too...but kinda harsher than u..I dnt buy this "ab usko dekhke tumse baat karun" coz, HOW CAN U NOT SEE UR EX IS STANDING 2 FEET AWAY WHILE UR YELLING AT UR WIFE? Coz when Shagun tried to intervene, Raman even ASKED Her to "mind her own business"...so FACTUALLY..the lines werent written intelligently...kyunki..if u dnt exist for me at ALL, then why wud i bother to EVEN ask u to shut ur trap?? I wouldnt naa? Would I?

Dont get it wrong..am just putting my POV😊
Edited by gravity23 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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after reading all those comments about the episode, i saw it n what was that. why the hell are they fighting man. first find a reason to fight guys. and what was that adi hota to, r u kidding? both were shouting n then suddenly raman backed out asking why were u shouting with adi around when adi is not even there. it looked totally forced. it was more like raman doesn't know why is he fighting and he is saying anything. 😕
anyways ashok mihika scene was good.😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: teenager08

I watched the epi in the hope that in the starting we'd get some nice couple moments between the leads before this cheekhne chillane ka drama starts but woww.. I was in for a surprise. :O :/ 2 mins into the epi and all of it began. They could have atleast given a nice outing to the couple. :S Just who is writing the screen play of the show? Are they the same people who etched out some brillianlt epis during Adi's accident track, or during Ruhi's custody in the beginning? Or for that matter, some months ago Raman and Ishita's blossoming romance despite ALL the tensions? Im having serious doubts. :S

But i must thankyou for this thread @gravity.. Helps me skip the epi without having to worry about skipping the romance. ;)

Coming back to the epi.. I was disappointed ki they didn't show some romance before the fight started lekin the rest of it, it was considerably a watchable epi. The whole fight i was so pissed off at Raman for shouting on Ishita lekin after the epi i realise both are right in their own ways and there is no way where i can say okay this is where Ishita's wrong and Raman is wrong. Both are wrong enough to discuss the matter in front of Shagun but both were right in the substance they were fighting for. Ishita wanted Mihir to follow his heart while Raman knew this way he would only be lead into more darkness considering the facts that 1) he had been in the same situation before, and 2) he knew Mihir and his nature better than what Ishita did.

Both Raman and Ishita said inappropriate things to each other (Raman crossed the lines a tad bit more than Ishita did lekin Ishita has already crossed some lines with that anniversary celebrations that for once, i don't think Raman is THAT wrong.) Ishita said Raman ran away from Shagun too (that took Raman by a surprise and honestly i didn't think or expect Ishita to go that far on this Mihir ka drama) and Raman said the harshest words possible. "How can u be so dumb" Sorry Raman. U don't talk with ur wife in sucha tone that too infront of ur ex-wife. :/

So all in all, that war of words i did not find it entire out of the blue. The context of the fight was, lekin i have myself seen randomest of topics getting turned into ugly fights so i wasn't too much affected by it.
Even the morning room scene i found it quite normal. Such fights happen and when Raman said "ab kya usko dekh ke tumse baat karu" it kind of justified Raman's such outburst for me but then i wouldn't say this justification negates the fact that what happened in front of Raman's ex was wrong.
But then it somehow it put forward Raman's POV that is his ex his just too non-existent for me so yeah it's okayy. :P (this is the die hard fan of Raman in me speaking. :P)
Ishita for the first time was factually right throughout.
All in all, a well etched out fight i would say. Intelligent script writing where the creatives showed no one is right or wrong and it's just the difference of opinions and more importantly, temperament of the couple.

Some side notes :
1) Ashok-Mihika-Suraj were H. I. L. A. R. I. O. U. S. throughout. I almost died laughing seeing Sangram's overacting and Mihika acting too smart. =)) But this will be taken to the point of no return by the CV's when they'll let Mihir know about it. So all this laughter is going to turned into 3rd degree torture soon i guess. :|


Sangram actually cute with that 'Aww' open-mouthed stunned expression..LOVED SURAJ'S REACTION..There he was, making fun that ASHOK didnt get 'shaadi ka phal'..and here, Mihka's showing test results as 'phal'🤣

2) Vandu my darlinggg. :D where were u all this while haa? I wanted Ishita to lecture Vandu about her POV than amma and im sure Vandu would have asked Ishita the right questions. She was so firm my godd, almost demanding Ishita to keep her personal life private, totally totallyyy loveddd her. :D

Hehehe...the CVs wudnt RISK that...VANDU hoti, toh Ishita ka speech 3 min mein khatam ho jata...I totally gobble her NO-NONSENSE attitude..I like such women who wudnt take shit, no mattr HOW mch they love a man

3) Raman's dialogues just showed how much he was smitten by Ishita. I loved the subtle undertone of his love for Ishita in all the words he took out from his mouth today. :') Very romanticc. :D
"Pata hai tere chakkar me Madrasan se lad kar aaya hu main?"
"Chalta hu main ab. Madrasan se baat karne. Varna tera dil toh thik ho jaega Madrasan pata nahi mera kya haal karegi"
"Ab Shagun ko dekh kar tumse baat karni padegi kya?"
"Bohot gussa bhara hai. Kahi na kahi toh nikalna padega na. *looking at his madrasan* hahaha the romantic in me saw the love in between the scenes also. Hahaha. :D :P

Thanks for emphasizing these lines...was so pissed with Raman, I'd forgotten abt these dialogues...but kahan se yaad rehta..KAL KA PRECAP TOH AUR BHI GHATIYA HAI NAA

Now all im waiting for is Raman Ishita patch up. So far, this doesn't seem THAT bad to me so yeah, looking forward to the entire drama. Just wished Shagun created ripples living outside the Bhalla House. She living there is just too much for me to handle. :| kills the whole fun of watching the show. :|

Ditto!😡

P.S. My replies are the colour-coded ones :)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: bigul

after reading all those comments about the episode, i saw it n what was that. why the hell are they fighting man. first find a reason to fight guys. and what was that adi hota to, r u kidding? both were shouting n then suddenly raman backed out asking why were u shouting with adi around when adi is not even there. it looked totally forced. it was more like raman doesn't know why is he fighting and he is saying anything. 😕

anyways ashok mihika scene was good.😆


Exactly my point.

1. Mihir wasnt a GOOD ENUFF reason for both of them to erupt into flames.

2. Mihir wasnt ANY REASON AT ALL for Raman to yell the way he did, at Ishita, right in front of Shagun.

3. Raman is blinded with the slightest mention of ADI. Shagun said that and he believed it in a second and AGAIN yelled at Ishu...so does it mean it will b easy for Shagun to turn the tables? Seems so..if he keeps blowing his fuse off for silly reasons...

Yeah..MISHOK scene was stupedous...especially Ashok's expressions..PRICELESS🤣
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: drishtimaurya


Yes...he needs to create a balance but the way this story is headed with Raman choosing Ishita over Adi, how is that balance? If Raman chooses Ishita that means Adi will walk out on him, that would be his failure as a father. Already Adi had walked out on Raman once, he wont want that to happen again, specially not after spending a few days with him, knowing him, enjoying with him. Its actually Cvs stupidity that they are showing this illogical crap. Its highly improbable that such a situation arises with people in the real world. As for giving Adi importance over Ruhi, i dont agree to that. Ruhi is the apple of Raman's eyes, i have never had any qualms about that. And no where in this track it is shown Raman preferring her over adi. In real world it doesnt matter whether a step son and mom love each other a lot. Just being cordial is enough. Adi knowing that his father loves him and him in return respecting and loving his father will also be enough, he doesnt even need to stay with them all the time. That way Raman will have this assurity that at least his son doesnt hate him (which has been the biggest pang for him all this while) But if Adi again walks out on him angrily then all will be back to square one. The way Cvs are showing it he will have to part with his son, but that will hurt, and hurt him the most.



There's no QUESTION of choosing ONE over the other...ADI is a child who can be moulded into thinking however an influential adult wants him to...we saw that in case of Shagun..even Param and Ashok...so WHY cant Raman state the real facts to him and help him adjust to the new dynamics? He is older than most children to understand his parents have their own lives..and HOW HYPOCRITICAL...ADI accepted ASHOK fine...coz Shagun kept drilling this inside his head that Raman is a bad father blah blah...hw is it ok fr his Mom to live in with a man she couldnt get married to anyway? But WRONG for his father to stay with his legally-wedded WIFE?? What B.S!!

As a parent, he needs to ensure ADI gets the best...but I DONT think ANY husband/wife in the whole wide world will simply give in to a kid's unreasonable demands and dump a loyal, lving partner...because when you calculate the pros and cons, Your PARTNER gets to stay with you your whole life once the kids leave the domestic nest...so where's the question of choosing one over the other?? In fact, even research says..that married couple SHOULD prioritise EACH other first..instead of constantly sacrificing for the kids, else the marriage is doomed.

Im sory..but Raman IS partial towards ADI...he has this strange obsession abt his first-born...he literally flung RUHI off him when he thought RUHI was Ashok's child...disgusting...hw can u think like that? so easily stung by an unscrupulous creep? Also...even now ADI is always at the centre...that day ADI spoke quite rudely to RUHI...but no one even questioned him...havnt heard the Bhallas going crazy 'RUHI KE LIYE'..its ALWAYS 'ADI ke liye'...in fact, Toshi ji kept saying 'Ghar ka Chirag'...maano ya na maano...thre's a faint line of sexism in their dialogues..and i dont like t...

If ADI walks out on him angrily, then it is a good time for Raman to weigh his options and see how selfish and bratty his son really was..and HOW...he needs to accept the truth...this will be a good time to see thru Shagun's real plan..her true colours that never changed in the last 6-7 years...and this will ALSO be a cue to Raman to stop trying so hard for this ungrateful kid..it wud b a lesson to him to not try so hard to be loved by his own son...Personally...u dont need to sell your soul to fetch anyone's love...EVEN IF ITS YOUR OWN CHILD. My POV.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: The_Imane

I personnally think it was a very good episode 😊



Hehehe...to each his own...for me, it was an 'Ouch!" episode😔
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: teenager08

Also.
I just don't want Adi to be living with Raman-Ruhi-Ishita. Atleast not so soon. They haven't even explored that part of the story and they're trying to include Adi into the picture.
I get the point Raman longs for Adi n all lekin please. Kaha itne saal door raha Adi please thode saal aur let him suffer with his mother.
And honestly. I don't like Adi. I don't like Adi in Raman and Ishita's life. Bus.

As for the precap. I want to know exactly WHY Raman is shouting on Ishita. There can be some solid reason, there can't be as well. Either way, we'll see when we get there.
Im looking forward to it though. I love seeing Ishita hurt. :D Her pain just gets to me and also, her healing process is beautiful so im waiting for Raman to heal Ishita again. When he's wrong, he better apologise in his typical RKB-mood. ;)


You're right...this is too EARLY for the moron to be staying with IishRa...pehle toh, the leads should sort out their differences...Ishita needs to be stronger and stand up for herself, and stop expecting every child in the world is like Ruhi, who will respond to love and care in the same way..and Raman needs to GET OVER HIS ADI OBSESSION..its bordering on maniacal now...

Same here...I dont like that kid. Dont sympathize with him. And prlly never will. Am a selfish viewer who doesnt want Iishra to be separated coz of this idiot ...

Aiyyooo...I dont like seeing her hurt and helpless...maybe her healing process is nice..but I just cant stand it when RAMAN misbehaves with her...dunno wats with her pretty face...she mite've irritated me with her JM-giri 5 min pehle...and soon enuff...I MELT for her☺️
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: drishtimaurya

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Unfortuantely, since the arrival of Shagun and Adi Raman and Ishita have not been able to do even romance in private, forget fighting. I agree fighting is never good, but at least they are putting forward their points. The rude behavior of Raman will start from tomorrow🤢, today was still bearable. The overplaying will then be tortureous! I probably liked them fighting coz over-sugary-sweetness in their behavior the past few days had been really pissing me off! I liked Raman in his small gestures showing his love, his actions that painted love, rather than words. He had always been a man of action not words. So when he started praising her to the heavens every now and then, I started liking it less. Raman usually is the angry one, but today Ishita gave it back to him equally. She also shouted a lot, which clearly shows the CVs intentions. They wanted Shagun to witness their fight, and they showed that, even though the matter wasnt as critical as the way they were shouting.



I kinda disagree here Drishti..call it, hankering for TRPs or soothing our frayed tempers, the Cvs DELIBERATELY introduced SOOO much romance in this horrendous Shagun-ADI track...like, wayy more than usual...haan, it gets interrupted, but stilll...there was quite some romance quotient..

Well yeah..the praising was diabetic...but I found his behaviour intolerable even TODAY...his normal taana maarna with the glint in the eye and the slow grin on his face is wat i PREFER...not this merciless yelling...

I seriously felt Mihir was nt a gud enuff reason to HAVE THAT SHOUTING MATCH...I'd given them better reasons to fight about.clearly last-minute scripting...but am happy Ishita gave it back to him...Seems Amma's words have rubbed off on her..Thank God
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Dont care about what is happening on Ishra front 2 mins of Ashokwa fainting made my day. 😳😆

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