16.01.2015 - Raman, back to being a Disappointing Prick - Page 4

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I loved the angry look he gave shagun when she was holding his hand..he expected it to be ishita's.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: drishtimaurya


<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">I am sorry but why should he? Can u ask Ishita to chose between Raman and Ruhi?? I know in the end of this track he will have to let go of his son, but that isnt supposed to be that easy! Its like choosing between two precious body parts- one arm v/s one eye. People argue that Ruhi is a kid, she needs a mother, then similarly Adi also needs a Dad who can teach him right from wrong. Adi doesnt respect him that does not mean he should abandon his kid. I am not married or have kids, but I'm sure the situation Raman is in is not an easy one.</font>



Don't think anyone is arguing about the situation Raman is in. but he always fires from ishita's shoulders. he wants Adi but does not want shagun and he wants Ishita to solve this puzzle else put up with Shagun!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: gravity23


I dont think its a good sign for IshRa..I mean...in the long run, maybe...but not when the drama's just started and may go on and on for a month or so now..I also DONT agree with his way of imposing his decision on Mihir...I mean, alright..prolly he's doing it like an overprotective brother and that's okay..but MAYBE, Mihir would be better off WITHOUT all this nuisance in Delhi...what happened to Raman also happened to Mihir..but then they r two separate individuals..have their own ways about dealing with things..MAYBE MIHIR would be better off in Singapore..so from THAT perspective, Ishita is sort of right...and again, MAYBE..Mihir staying back in Delhi and facing his fears might heal him better...All I'm saying is...YELLING IN FRONT OF SHAGUN WAS NOT THE WAY TO GO ABOUT IT...They cudve done it in private..It wouldnt have mattered if Raman had been the right one...only that..his yelling at Ishu in front of Shagun kinda UNDERMINED her position in his life...

THAT, I agree with...especially Ishita, who usually smiles simperingly, and lets it be...she too talked back to Shagun👏

I also differ on the count of Raman being in his element...I mean..I dont think he WAS in his element...I think he crossed the line somewhere..the Yelling was TOO MUCH...TOO LOUD...GRATING ON MY EARS...Reminded me of the kind of behaviour he displayed during the MANI track...it ws SOOO NOT HIM..it was so clear the CVs deliberately overplayed his short fuse...

I dont think they shud fight in this manner...with that bitch around...makes it seem she's winning and then I dont like it one bit..

Thank You Drishti for joining in the debate😊

Bingo!! That's the point.U can't impose decision on somebody.I agree that Raman had gone thru a heartbreak and he fled but it didn't help him.But Raman and Mihir r completely different person.Raman has serious anger issues whereas Mihir is calm.Both may react to situation differently.Both may have different outcome of a similar situation.Mihir's pain may be healed...he may make new friends and start enjoying life by going.Who knows? But let him try atleast.If Mihir doesn't get healed and finds that this is not helping him he may return anytime.If he had taken a decision ..let it be respected.

Raman surely needs anger management classes.He instantly started shouting at Ishita when he heard that Ishita knew about Mihir's decision.I don't find any reason why it is so hard for him to first listen to the explanation of the person.But no...he has to shout from the word go!!I would have loved if he had maintained this temper in New year party and walked away...instead of agreeing to Ishita's horrible demands.I would have loved if he would have sat down and made his brain cells active and bring a solution to Shagun's arrangement.Just calling Ishita a JM and blaming Iahita of bringing Shagun at home is not feasible.Why didn't he oppose that time when Shagun was brought by Ishita?He was also with her ...Ishita was not alone.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: victo

Nice analysis. Raman and ishitha fight was usual husbandand wife fight . If there is only love and sweetness between the couple the strongness of in their relationship cannot be understood. If there is ups and downs in the relationship the true relationship comes in to limelight. When the relationship faces difficulties the persons come to know the value of it.

Raman cannot be good always with Iishitha and cannot accept ishitha's all decisions. They were husband and wife and there may be difference of opinion between them. Raman in case of mihir's the decision taken by him is correct. He has undergone such trauma and he knows how he has been overcome it.



ishita too said she may have a diff opinion, no need to yell. She was not liking his yelling in front of Shagun that's all
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: drishtimaurya



<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Agreed. The more sensible story line would have been uncovering of the truth by Adi that Raman wasnt at fault, he didnt leave him or his mother, it was the other way round. God knows what the CVs want to show. Coz the track is now totally hotch-potch. Started with Adi's fears and insecurities and would end with some other matter completely with Adi as the villain. Had the story included Adi growing closer to Raman and Ishita helping with that instead of both of them wanting Ishita to become Ishima! That is not possible at all! And why should Adi accept Ishita as his Ishima? He only needs to respect her, that much will be enough. Ruhi didnt have a mum, Adi already has one. Agreed she's a bitch, but for him, she's his world and the only person who loves him. The way in New Year party Ishita did all that stupid things to get in good-books of Adi, it came out as Ishita being desperate to again being called a mother! Both Raman and Ishita are wrong to think that Adi will respond to a third-person in his life so fast. He has not even accepted his own Dad yet! That shud've been the crux of this track, instead of focusing on Ishita's motherhood!</font>



Exactly.
Im not getting what this track is all about? Is it about Ishita's insecurities of not being a mother? Or is it about Adi's realisation of some truths, is it about raman-adi bonding, is it about adi-ishita bonding or is it a typical husband-wife-sautan drama?
The track right from the beginning has started on the wrong page, with Shagun living under the same roof as Ishita. :/
The CV's have opened too many facets of the track and im fearing in the end it's all going to lead into some major drama (abd disaster) but as always, we'll just have to wait n watch. :S
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: teenager08



Exactly.
Im not getting what this track is all about? Is it about Ishita's insecurities of not being a mother? Or is it about Adi's realisation of some truths, is it about raman-adi bonding, is it about adi-ishita bonding or is it a typical husband-wife-sautan drama?
The track right from the beginning has started on the wrong page, with Shagun living under the same roof as Ishita. :/
The CV's have opened too many facets of the track and im fearing in the end it's all going to lead into some major drama (abd disaster) but as always, we'll just have to wait n watch. :S



looks like cvs want to create a mess and deal with it partially so they can again have another track with shagun. they will not close shagun chapter.

Raman now knows Shagun is sending feelers to him, he is getting angry with her but does he not think he should make some arrangement for Shagun and Adi? Shagun is becoming more bold day by day. I am shocked that he has not had a serious conversation with Ishita on how this should progress. he is just happy having Adi around and blaming Ishita for it, as if she is happy with Shagun!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: yshu8

I guess ,it was OK. I mean we all know Raman, he shouts like hell wen he is angry .I was also OK with the dialogue'tum usko is ghar mein leke aayi thi' I have a lot of Patience wen it comes to ishra.but wat irritated me to the core was precap, I mean wat does he expect from her, she has a job , n y shud she take care of adi wen shagun is there, forget about that ,he is not even willing to listen, the only thing I liked was ishita cleared it to Raman that she dint like him scowling at her infront of others

I understand Raman's POV but wat he is missing is the fact that he can never have adi n ishita together in his life
Like u said ,he is the man, he needs to prioritize...
And was just thinking, wat would ruhi been through bcoz before ishra marriage,she longed for Raman jus the way Raman longs for adi, but he never loved back RU in the same way...
Ishu n RU are mad abt Raman but that woman n her idiotic son have much more influence on Raman ...guess bcoz first is always first...n it hurts
May Raman soon realize that out there there are two souls that love him unconditionally, rather than going after ppl who don't even deserve being in his love

I guess u hated the epi, more bcoz u love Raman n it hurts...feelings are same


I'd respectfully disagree with you Yshu..see..we all know Raman has ANGER problems...but today the way he yelled was WAYY worse than his usual even-pitched taunts and snarky comments..I'd have digested that better...also it totally reminded me of his EXAGGERATED yelling at Romi during the hospitalisation scene...even I cringed when he shouted like that...during the whole od that track, the CVs made Raman a total monster..and Yes..am more pissed coz he shouted at her IN FRONT OF HIS EX-WIFE...Tht's no way to behave with a loved one..let alone your WIFE. Really disrespectful...and uske upar he casually states, "Tum hi toh usko ghar mein laayi thi"

If that is the case and he is so hell-bent on making ppl do as HE wants..then WHY didnt he stop Ishita that point of time? He cudve taken a stand..made a decision and jst said, "ADI can come..but Shagun cant..." or "I'll make diff arrangements for them"..He didnt..and why is he now passing snarky comments? Didnt like this bit...

Raman CAN have both of them in his life..but not RIGHT NOW..not now when ADI totally hates Ishita...is ANTI-Ishita..once he understands, and Shagun is out of their lives, am sure he can have his cake and eat it too

I also feel hurt with this discrimination...RUHI also had to jhelo so much because of his neglect..but that doesnt seem to have struck his thick head right now...I feel bad, coz it seems like BEING a son and HAVING a son is ALL that matters even in today's world...and THAT is a wrong message the CVs are sending out to the world...I understand its First Love and all that...but even Ive been in that situation and I would NEVER belitle/devalue my current partner for some moron who left me years ago and is trying to dictate my behaviour now...

Yes..you guessed it right...I gush about him EVERY DAY...in each of my daily posts...I somehow find something or the other droolworthy and ADORABLE about him everyday...bhale jitna bhi simple ho..but aaj...I just could not JUSTIFY his behaviou..and KAL ka precap is even worse..Ishita is NOT a MAID..NOT ADI'S NANNY...Why is she supposed to leave everything behind and run behind this UNGRATEFUL CREEP?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: nb.neha

Now raman has a prob with ishita getting shagun n adi home. Where were his concerns when it actually happened? That time all he knew was Adi being there. So disappointing. Has he ever given attention to the current arrangement at home? Or is he comfortable with having his wife n ex wife around him just bcoz he has his son with him. What about ishita's sentiments? She brought both of them home out of humanity not with the attention of letting them stay (sply shagun) forever.


Eaxctly My point! He didnt say ONE WORD when she got them to stay in Bhalla House...he just kept singing her praises...raising her toasts to the skies..and NOW..JUST BECAUSE she happened to take Mihir's side and speak on his behalf..he started with 'Jagat Mata' "Tum kaun hoti ho decide karne wali"...and all...especially when Shagun was right there...didnt like it one bit...No matter HOW MUCH I adore Raman...I feel this behaviour is damn partial and selfish of him...

Neha, he IS comfortable with this current arrangement. As much as I HATE saying this...Raman is STILL obsessed over ADI...I'll tell u what he wants:

1. ADI should permanently stay in Bhalla House
2. Shagun can stay and will have to stay, so that ADI's alright
3. ADI should love his mother as he does now...but MIRACULOUSLY..he must ALSO LOVE AND RESPECT Ishita, so that unnecessary tensions dnt crop up
4. Ishita should be okay with this arrangement as long as he keeps singing her praises
5. Ishita should STILL care for ADI and patiently wait for ADI to transform, never mind it might just take AGES

See..I was EXASPERATED when she got them both home..and continued to be...but even then I knew deep down, that SHE was doing it out of her soft nature which usually takes over her mind...but I wasnt expecting RAMAN to taunt her abt it! If he is so DISTURBED ABT SHAGUN BEING THERE, why doesnt he just throw her out? Total HYPOCRISY
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I loved the questions you have put up.
And I know what you mean about Vandu. She is equal parts strong, emotional AND RATIONAL.

And I didnt like the precap ONE bit.

So now as per new OLVs ishita apologizes to Aditya cause he says he will come back ONLY if ishita apologizes for something she "apparently" said to Adi (in upcoming episodes)

God. AND Mrs. bhalla makes her apologize but then shagun does her drama as she sees Raman standing door se and pretends as if Ishita is a goddess and she shouldnt apologize and shit and Ishita just looks confused as if not understanding HOW shagun changed her stance.


AND RAMAN KUMAR BHALLA JUST LOOKS ON.

Sigh.

Maybe episode mein kuch lines hogi because it was an on location video but whatever.


AND WHAT WAS THAT? WHY WAS SHAGUN HOLDING HIS HAND?

GOD.

WHY?

And i hated how he said apne aap ko ishima kehti ho aur ek chote bacche ka khayal bhi nahi rakh sakti? Dude your wife has taken care of things which wouldn't have been possible to be taken care by ANYONE.


HOW can he say this? HOW?


If this is how the show is gonna go, I would take Ishra's mini separation over this nonsensical fights and idiotic shagun-adi drama.


The kid needs to go. ASAP.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunitas123



Don't think anyone is arguing about the situation Raman is in. but he always fires from ishita's shoulders. he wants Adi but does not want shagun and he wants Ishita to solve this puzzle else put up with Shagun!


He never said put up with Shagun. Ishita was the one who fought with her own mother to let Shagun stay at Bhalla House when she was leaving. Everybody wanted her to go then, they were scared that Adi might leave to but still none of them were that vehement. So here Raman was right it is actually coz of Ishita that Adi and Shagun are there. And it has its pros and cons. At that time everybody saw the good point Adi living with them, Ishita did too. Now for both Raman and Ishita the cons are coming up, Shagun's interference in everything. Both of them are frustrated, ofcourse they'll take it out on each other.

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