The Weekend Musings # 2

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Back with Doc's (Eyes-Wide-Shut) and my weekend collaboration.The edit is mine, rest is all her brilliance.

Disclaimer 1: We have had a case of selective amnesia and chosen to forget the last two episodes, so we are focusing on episodes from Monday - Thursday. Our attempt here is to explore puttar's plight and angst because all week we focused on Ishita and her attempt at making puttar feel comfortable.

Disclaimer 2: Since my love for Gulzar sahab knows no bound and I invariably reach out to his work day after day, might as well rename this post as Gulzar saab's musings. There aren't enough words to describe his brilliance so I am not even going to try.


Ye kaise umar main ake mili ho tum

Bahot jee chahta hai phir se bo-oon(sow) apni aakhen

Tumhare dhaer se chehra ugaon aur bulaon barishon ko

Bahot jee hai ke fursat ho tassavor ho, tassovor main zara se bagbani ho

Magar jaana yeh kaise umar main ake mili ho tum

Kise ki hissa ki matti nahi hilti, kise ked hoop ka hissa nahi chinta

Magar ab meri kyari main lage podhe kisi ko paon rekhne ke liye bhi tha nahi dete

Yeh kaise umar main ake mili ho tum

-Gulzar saab

Loose translation: What an age have you entered my life in, my life is too set in it's old ways but how I wish I could sow my eyes and grow a thousand faces of yours, I wish I could call upon the rain, and then with a few free picturesque moments I would grow a thousand of you. But what an age have entered my life, oh beautiful! At this age I am too set in my old ways, my life won't give your room to grow and won't share it's sunshine with you, the plants in my garden won't even give your room to step around. Oh what an age have you entered my life.

There could be no better lines than these to describe Raman's angst for the past few days. He is a man in love, he is finally seeing how companionship and love can transform his life and make him into a better man. But life isn't that easy, with love comes responsibility! The responsibility to be faithful, to be benevolent, to be true to yourself and to your partner, to be supportive and to always communicate, for love without responsibility is no love at all. Ishita has entered in Raman's life at an age where his garden is full of plants from his past, he wishes to sow the seeds of their love and see it blossom into a beautiful relationship but he is struggling to find room in his garden of life. His complicated past has given way to guilt, guilt of having a life so preoccupied with his past that he is left with no room for his present and future, guilt of not being able to reciprocate his wife's unconditional love and finally guilt of being the source of pain for the love of his life.

Guilt is an emotion that is painful but very much required for growth. As Audre Lorde puts it,

"Guilt is not a response to anger; it is a response to one's own actions or lack of action. If it leads to change then it can be useful, since it is then no longer guilt but the beginning of knowledge. Yet all too often, guilt is just another name for impotence, for defensiveness destructive of communication; it becomes a device to protect ignorance and the continuation of things the way they are, the ultimate protection for changelessness."

Guilt can lead to change, it can transform from this painful emotion of ineptness to the feeling of redemption but more often than it leads to shame. Shame is never constructive; it never leads to redemption because it usually ends up taking it's passengers on the journey of self-loathing, anger and isolation. Unfortunately, puttar has crossed over from guilt to shame and is headed towards isolation.

It is heart breaking to see Raman struggle with his feelings, he wants to profess his love for his beloved, he wants to be thankful for her selfless devotion to him and his family but the self inflected shame is making him spiral down the steps of loveless isolation. Raman is feeling inadequate, he thinks of himself as a failed man in love, a failed man in marriage and a failed man in family. While sitting in his office he reminisces about the hurtful things he said to her, the plots and plans of Ashok and Adi, and hate and contempt from Shagun. He cannot help but question the raw deal Ishita is getting by being in love with him. He questions his worth and finds answers by looking through the shades of his past, so he does what he knows he best, he retreats into silence, self loathe and forced isolation


Raman high on shame and self loathe is blaming all their problems on his past, forgetting the most important thing, that he isn't singular anymore he is part of a team. He forgets that he can't decide the course of their relationship alone, there is someone else's life attached to his and the lines of communication that he has severed must reopen for him to spiral out of this shame-ridden state. Guilt is good, shame isn't!

Puttar take the hint that missus is giving you, she said it if your happiness is dependent on mine then you should be very very happy because I am very happy.' So throw away some plants of your past and sow the seeds of love in the garden of

Something I had written on Raman state of mind for G's post, reusing it here.

Uss raat sigdi pe doodh ubal raha tha

Tum aayi bheega kapdo main lipti huyi

Tofano se ladti hui

Apni aakhon ki nami se kuch boonden leke udhar

Tumne sehlaya tha uss ubalte doodh ke patile ko

Kya kahun humsafar kya rasile chai bani thi

Tumhare aanso ka namkeen swad tha

aur mera ubalne ki garmahat thi uss chai me

Uss raat sigdi pe doodh ubal raha tha

Jab tum tufano se lad rahi thi

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Since it also happens to be Karan Patel's birthday today...it seems befitting that we wish the man behind the angst, guilt, "Kya",the hunky Puttar ... many happy returns of the day.

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players"

- Shakespeare


Dear Karan Patel,
If this world is indeed a stage then you have conquered the world with your acting prowess. Thank you for entertaining us and holding us captive with your immense stage presence. Happy Birthday! Wishing you all the success and luck in the world, keep entertaining us like you always have.
Much love!
Puttar fangirls 😆



Edited by GanBarunFan - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Apologies for a post this sad and morose on a weekend, I usually talk about love and happiness but puttar's sad face and his eyes just captivated G and I.
To make everyone feel better and mushy...here are a few lines from Bade ache lagte hain title song that fit aptly in this situation 😊

Tere mere sath ki ghadiyaan,

Jeevan mein sabse badi hain..

Tum haste ho to lagta hai,

Saamne khushiyaan khadi hain..

Bade acche lagte hain..

Yeah mausam, yeah baatein, yeah uljhan aur tum...




Tere bina mushkil hai jeena,

Tu mera humsaaya..

Tujhse bichhad jane ke darr ne,

Yeah ehsaas dilaya..

Bade acche lagte hain..

Yeah ghadiyaan, tera sang, yeah jeevan aur tum..




Edited by Eyes-Wide-Shut - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Ladies, thank you bot so much for this beautiful post!

Gan, the edit sums it up. Love how you were able to capture the tears glistening in his eyes...his eyes were so expressive this week.

The still of the two of them in the middle is perfect. Quite symbolic, because though he doesn't see it, the fact is that he's no longer alone in this battle with his past demons...they're in it together now.

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Doc, I'm so thankful for your love for Gulzar because not only are you helping us all become more acquainted with his incredible works, but he inspires you to write beautiful poetic words of your own.

This nazam could not be more perfect to describe RKB's current state of mind.

As you said, with love comes responsibility. Love is not enough - a relationship must be cultivated, and is hard work. All those cliched quotes stating that 'love conquers all' and 'all you need is love' couldn't be farther from the truth.

Your thoughts were completely on point and I could not agree with you more - especially about guilt being a good thing as long as it doesn't become shame.

I need to get on board with his guilt too because I have a feeling it will consume him in the coming week...so, I'm gonna dive deeper.

***

"Here she is, all mine, trying her best to give me all she can. How could I ever hurt her?"
- Haruki Murakami

"What a terrible thing to wound someone you really care for, and to do so unconsciously."
- Haruki Murakami

***

Broken by Lifehouse

The broken clock is a comfort, it helps me sleep tonight
Maybe it can stop tomorrow from stealing all my time
I am here still waiting though i still have my doubts
I am damaged at best, like you've already figured out

I'm falling apart, I'm barely breathing
With a broken heart that's still beating
In the pain, there is healing
In your name I find meaning
So I'm holdin' on, I'm holdin' on, I'm holdin' on
I'm barely holdin' on to you

The broken locks were a warning you got inside my head
I tried my best to be guarded, I'm an open book instead
I still see your reflection inside of my eyes
That are looking for a purpose, they're still looking for life

I'm hangin' on another day
Just to see what you throw my way
And I'm hanging on to the words you say
You said that I will be OK

***

RKB is not new to all of this. He's been dealing with the demons of his past for years now, and he's been doing it alone...and over the years, he's learned to build walls so that, not only would the wounds be invisible, but more wounds could not be inflicted.

And, for a while there, though, he was barely living, he'd learned to push through the pain.
To deal' with it, by simply locking it away.

He never expected an 'Ishita' would come barging into his life and knock the walls down.
He never expected that she would begin to heal his wounds...
...and in the process, leave him vulnerable again.

The difference this time however, is that she has become his vulnerability.

He has learned to cope with the wounds that his past inflicts on him...but he never thought someone else would be in the line of fire...and worse, that he'd be unable to shield her from it. ...and that every time she took a hit, he would feel the pain...

So as it turns out, he's vulnerable to it all again...and those demons are back to haunt him.
This time, in the form of guilt...guilt over the wounds his past is inflicting on her.

The difference this time however, is that he doesn't have to fight it alone.

But despite her having told him so, he doesn't see it, can't believe it.
He's never had this before - someone to help him carry the burden. He's been doing it alone for so long, he can't seem to fathom why anyone should want to share the responsibility...
...or more importantly, why they should have to.

He feels as Murakami said - as she's given him her all, healed his wounds...and here he is, giving her nothing' in return, hurting her unintentionally.
His past is a drowning ship without a rescue float...and if he holds her too close, she'll drown too.

After all these years, he still dwells on his past 'mistakes' and 'shortcomings' - his inadequacy - the reason that Shagun left him, the reason his life, his kids' lives, his family's lives are all a mess.
And now, its weighing down on her too.

And RKB, for the life of him, can't fathom why she should have to pay for his mistakes.
He sees himself as a dead-weight that's pulling her down...what he fails to realize is that he is not a dead-weight, but rather, her anchor...as she is his.

Life had given him a second chance with her - a do-over that not many are fortunate enough to afford. Sadly, despite the second chance, and no matter how hard he tries, he still can't seem to get it right. They say no matter how hard you try to run from your past, it eventually catches up to you.

RKB has fallen victim to the very same...and it's adding to his guilt.

So he's running in circles...back where he was 7 years ago - inadequate.
The way he sees it, despite being given a rare second chance, he's failing at this all over again.
Failing in marriage again. He's unable to give her the happiness she deserves.
What he fails to realize is that he is her happiness - just him. All of him. Even the broken bits.

He's so broken he's afraid if he gets too close, he'll break her too.
All he wants to do is hold her to himself as they face the storm of his past, but not at the cost of damage it will inflict on her. Not at the cost of her - his love.

RKB has always been selfless in his love. He's always given his all. He loves fiercely, unconditionally. But he's never had someone reciprocate. Shagun's love (if we can even call it that) for him had conditions. He doesn't know what its like to have someone love him unconditionally without expectation or a time stamp. And while he knows Ishita is selfless, he doesn't understand that he is no exception.
He's never known a love like that.

Ishita is so different from what he's known. Shagun didn't care for anyone much apart from herself, so she didn't share in the responsibility of their family, their life together...hence it didn't last. This time, he's got someone to help him, and he can't seem to see that she's really there, and when she says that what's his is hers, she really means it.

Even the pain and tears.

It's going to take Ishita's irrevocable love to pull him out of this.
She's the only one that can help him restore his self-worth.
Once he realizes that he is as indispensable to her as she is to him, that she loves him, past demons and all, as fiercely and unconditionally as he loves her, RKB will begin to see he's not inadequate...
That, on the contrary, he's everything she's ever dreamed of, and more.
And finally, with her help, he'll begin to overcome.

**

Sorry for rambling - the interruption made me lose my train of thought.
I don't even know if any of this is relevant to the topic at hand...

I can't not mention KP. So...KP.

*

Love.
P

PS: Gan, love the birthday edit!

Edited by -Payal- - 10 years ago
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Beautiful post Gan & Doc ...😳
Real life has been so hectic and Mind totally lost to post songs
Keep posting !!!
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Beautiful.
Beautiful collage, beautiful write up, thought provoking analysis and Gulzar Sahibs poem is the icing on the cake. Thank you for the translation.

👏 👏👏
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*Edited*

I unfortunately made the mistake this morning of watching both Friday's and Saturday's episodes back-to-back online. Needless to say that it was nothing less than torture. But, just as you did for your musings, I will forget that the last two episodes even happened.

Firstly a hats off and a deep bow to both of you wonderful ladies for the collage and analysis...they fit together so seamlessly. I literally stared at the collage for a solid five minutes before I even scrolled down to read the analysis ( KP my love...tum aisa kyun karte ho? Na chaahte hue bhi main tum par fida ho hi jaati hoon har baar). And it seems as though those words by Gulzar sahab were just made for Raman's current turmoil. Doc, your analysis of Raman's guilt is spot on.

I'm going to be optimistic here and "try" to give a positive spin on this guilt track to add onto what you have already said. Doc, if you remember, we had a discussion some time ago about Shagun's Raman and Ishita's Raman (on your Raman vs Raman post from Oct 25). I had said in my post that "Ishita's Raman will take a few hundred, possibly thousand, episodes to overcome Shagun's Raman." I think I may have spoken too soon because this guilt track appears to be the beginning of the journey for the emergence of Ishita's Raman.

Originally posted by: Eyes-Wide-Shut

Raman is feeling inadequate, he thinks of himself as a failed man in love, a failed man in marriage and a failed man in family.He questions his worth and finds answers by looking through the shades of his past.


Ishita's Raman is feeling guilty, but it is Shagun's Raman that is the source of this emotion. It was Shagun's Raman that "failed" in love because he was betrayed by the woman whom he loved more than himself. It was Shagun's Raman that "failed" in marriage because he could only watch as his life was torn apart by his divorce. It was Shagun's Raman that "failed" in family because he couldn't bear the thought that his son hated him and he was never able to give love to his daughter who reminded him too much of his "failed" love and marriage.

In the words of Coco Chanel, "Guilt is perhaps the most painful companion of death."
The guilt that he is feeling right now will turn out to be the painful companion of death for Shagun's Raman. Ishita will not let her Raman go away from her so easily. Ishita's Raman will have to realize his worth and find his answers by moving away from the shades of his past and looking at the colors of his present. Ishita's Raman will have to realize that he is successful in love, marriage, and family, all the things that Shagun's Raman "failed" in.

I'm going to end with some lines that popped into my mind while staring at Gan's collage.

Tanha khada zindagi ke har mod par
Jeena seekh chukka tha andhere ko lekar
Berang din aur kaali raatein
Manzoor thi mujhe voh dard bhari yaadein
Kyun mitaana chahti hai yeh andhera
Humesha bana rahega yeh meri zindagi ka pehra
Chaaron taraf ki yeh kaali tanhayi
Jeetne nahin degi tujhe teri rang ki ladayi
Voh pyaar kaisa jo sirf aansoo de
Mera koi haq nahin raha hai tujh pe
Tere door jaane se mera andhera laut aayega
Par teri zindagi ka suraj toh vapis aa jaayega
Jee loonga phirse uss andhere mein
Le le ke subki, le le ke aahatein
Tu chali jaa mujhse door
Aakhir bas teri khushi hi hai ab mera fitoor.
Edited by nividances - 10 years ago
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Gan and Doc( hopefully, am I right in calling?)...
Wonderful wonderful post...and the collage is so heart touching...
Am not at all acquainted with Gulzar Saab's verses, but through you when I read it, i feel i had missed beautiful feelings in my life.

A man in love, Raman is now heading to prove his love, but utterly in a wrong direction and path. This man is utterly vulnerable in love. this is what he had done with Adithya. When his son demanded to go far from him, to his son's happiness he left him. But he lost his love, his son became vulnerable, and Raman committed grievous fault. This is what he is going to do with Ishita. It is the guilt that makes him to do, it is the fear of rejection. But he needs to understand, Love stands above all, and loving is not going away, but facing the responsibilities that comes along with it. He needs to understand that after settling all the problems of life one cant lead a life of love, as problems never end, but, have to live the love life when it is with you. This man needs to understand how to love.

Raman, is a complex man. This is the battle of love. This is the battle of a man. This is the battle between the nerdy Raman and alpha male Raman. He needs to accept himself as the combination of the two. The is guilt conquers the love of the nerdy Raman. The alpha male in him is in hibernation. This have to rise. The equal amount of nerdiness and alpha ism has to fill in Raman. Then he will get the right path in Love. To accept the nerdiness in him, he has to believe in himself. He needs to believe that he can be loved. Rejection is what his past laid to him. He should stop looking through the mirror of past to the present. Life is leading to a full circle for him, and the past is again repeating in front of him. He has to correct the mistakes that he had done in past, or never repeat his past in his present. But what can a nerdy Raman do...this is the sarcasm.

This man needs to understand that the vulnerability of him makes his loved ones vulnerable. Only love with courage and responsibility can conquer this. This is what Ruhi taught him.

The tears in his eyes are of love, guilt , fear,shame and helplessness. This man has lost his path or fear to take a step ahead. A man damn afraid of Rejection---the scar that still remains, the wound that his past gave. In all these, this man fails to understand that he too is healing his wife, her wounds of past, as she is doing with him.For this, he needs to understand the importance of himself in the life of her as she understood the importance of him in her life. The act of self realization is yet to be conquered.
"Love recognizes no barriers. It jumps hurdles,leaps fences, penetrates walls to arrive at its, destination full of hope."
-Maya Angelou
Ishita found her destination full of hope, Raman is on the way, jumping the hurdles, leaping the fences and penetrating the walls to find his destination full of hope; hie love, their love.

Hope I have made some sense to your post with my words...

Gan and Doc, once again, wonderful post and collage.
Thank you for this.

Edited by remya1990 - 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Eyes-Wide-Shut

Apologies for a post this sad and morose on a weekend, I usually talk about love and happiness but puttar's sad face and his eyes just captivated G and I.

To make everyone feel better and mushy...here are a few lines from Bade ache lagte hain title song that fit aptly in this situation 😊

Tere mere sath ki ghadiyaan,

Jeevan mein sabse badi hain..

Tum haste ho to lagta hai,

Saamne khushiyaan khadi hain..

Bade acche lagte hain..

Yeah mausam, yeah baatein, yeah uljhan aur tum...




Tere bina mushkil hai jeena,

Tu mera humsaaya..

Tujhse bichhad jane ke darr ne,

Yeah ehsaas dilaya..

Bade acche lagte hain..

Yeah ghadiyaan, tera sang, yeah jeevan aur tum..






Thats beautiful Doc!👏 Your post lifted my mood...You know how pissed off I was with the last two days...needed all the inspiration I needed to look forward to Monday's episode..when I got your PM with the write up and sat to make the collage...I felt Raman's feelings but it was a good sad feeling...the one that overwhelms your heart...helped me overcome the negative thoughts of last two episodes. I needed your post.😳
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I was about to sign out.. and I am glad I noticed this post before i did that...😳 Too much awesomeness in one post .. the both of you...😛😛
Should I say it... beautiful collage... very apt lines and a wonderful interpretation...😳😳👏 The post is about putthar's guilt.. but the way you both have described it has left me with a smile... Its a beautiful premise they have set up, I would love to see them do justice to this with the wonderful actors they have...😛😳

I cannot add anything more to this...Just say its beautiful...😳

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