The Weekend Musings # 2 - Page 3

Originally posted by: Eyes-Wide-Shut

😳 Thanks G! As they say when life gives you lemon, make lemonade...only if you are a minor this is what i would do 😆

On a serious note, last 2 episodes have been brutal but all things pass so shall this, aakhir umeed pe toh duniya kayam hai 😉

Originally posted by: nividances

Res

*Edited*

I unfortunately made the mistake this morning of watching both Friday's and Saturday's episodes back-to-back online. Needless to say that it was nothing less than torture. But, just as you did for your musings, I will forget that the last two episodes even happened.

Firstly a hats off and a deep bow to both of you wonderful ladies for the collage and analysis...they fit together so seamlessly. I literally stared at the collage for a solid five minutes before I even scrolled down to read the analysis ( KP my love...tum aisa kyun karte ho? Na chaahte hue bhi main tum par fida ho hi jaati hoon har baar). And it seems as though those words by Gulzar sahab were just made for Raman's current turmoil. Doc, your analysis of Raman's guilt is spot on.

I'm going to be optimistic here and "try" to give a positive spin on this guilt track to add onto what you have already said. Doc, if you remember, we had a discussion some time ago about Shagun's Raman and Ishita's Raman (on your Raman vs Raman post from Oct 25). I had said in my post that "Ishita's Raman will take a few hundred, possibly thousand, episodes to overcome Shagun's Raman." I think I may have spoken too soon because this guilt track appears to be the beginning of the journey for the emergence of Ishita's Raman.

Ishita's Raman is feeling guilty, but it is Shagun's Raman that is the source of this emotion. It was Shagun's Raman that "failed" in love because he was betrayed by the woman whom he loved more than himself. It was Shagun's Raman that "failed" in marriage because he could only watch as his life was torn apart by his divorce. It was Shagun's Raman that "failed" in family because he couldn't bear the thought that his son hated him and he was never able to give love to his daughter who reminded him too much of his "failed" love and marriage.

In the words of Coco Chanel, "Guilt is perhaps the most painful companion of death."

The guilt that he is feeling right now will turn out to be the painful companion of death for Shagun's Raman. Ishita will not let her Raman go away from her so easily. Ishita's Raman will have to realize his worth and find his answers by moving away from the shades of his past and looking at the colors of his present. Ishita's Raman will have to realize that he is successful in love, marriage, and family, all the things that Shagun's Raman "failed" in.

I'm going to end with some lines that popped into my mind while staring at Gan's collage.

Tanha khada zindagi ke har mod par

Jeena seekh chukka tha andhere ko lekar

Berang din aur kaali raatein

Manzoor thi mujhe voh dard bhari yaadein

Kyun mitaana chahti hai yeh andhera

Humesha bana rahega yeh meri zindagi ka pehra

Chaaron taraf ki yeh kaali tanhayi

Jeetne nahin degi tujhe teri rang ki ladayi

Voh pyaar kaisa jo sirf aansoo de

Mera koi haq nahin raha hai tujh pe

Tere door jaane se mera andhera laut aayega

Par teri zindagi ka suraj toh vapis aa jaayega

Jee loonga phirse uss andhere mein

Le le ke subki, le le ke aahatein

Tu chali jaa mujhse door

Aakhir bas teri khushi hi hai ab mera fitoor.

Originally posted by: janu12345

I was about to sign out.. and I am glad I noticed this post before i did that...😳 Too much awesomeness in one post .. the both of you...😛😛

Should I say it... beautiful collage... very apt lines and a wonderful interpretation...😳😳👏 The post is about putthar's guilt.. but the way you both have described it has left me with a smile... Its a beautiful premise they have set up, I would love to see them do justice to this with the wonderful actors they have...😛😳

I cannot add anything more to this...Just say its beautiful...😳

Originally posted by: Eyes-Wide-Shut

😳 Thanks G! As they say when life gives you lemon, make lemonade...only if you are a minor this is what i would do 😆

On a serious note, last 2 episodes have been brutal but all things pass so shall this, aakhir umeed pe toh duniya kayam hai 😉

Originally posted by: GanBarunFan

Wow! Nivi that's a beautiful post about Shagun's Raman vs Ishita's Raman ...this part I just loved

"Ishita will not let her Raman go away from her so easily. Ishita's Raman will have to realize his worth and find his answers by moving away from the shades of his past and looking at the colors of his present. Ishita's Raman will have to realize that he is successful in love, marriage, and family, all the things that Shagun's Raman "failed" in."

The breakthrough point for Ishit's Raman will be the day when he stops running away from his issues and decides to face them... That will mark the true emergence of Raman bhalla when it comes to his own love... As a person he goes extra mile for his loved ones... He needs to realize that going extra mile for Ishita entails going with her and not away from her as the latter will bring in more pain to her life that what he thinks she's enduring now. That's the journey of realization Raman Bhalla has to make ...

Loved all your quote.

Now did you pen down those lines at the end ? Wow Just awesome ! How you guys write so amazingly boggles my mind. Just beautiful ! 👏

P.S. You like KP .. Eh? 😉

Originally posted by: nividances

Thanks Gan! I think that I keep repeating this same thing in many of my posts on this forum; that Ishita won't let Raman go away from her. And I absolutely agree with your comment that Ishita's Raman will truly emerge "when he stops running away from his issues and decides to face them."

Yes I did come up with those lines 😳...honestly though, your collage was truly magical. You really have a knack at picking just the right pictures and stringing them together into a perfect portrayal of a character or a specific moment. I only tried to put into words what your collage showed, but in the end a picture is worth a thousand words (your collages are probably worth a million!) and I could only come up with about a hundred. 😛

And KP...let's not even get started on him or else you'll have to endure a full on fan girling session from me. 😆

Originally posted by: swathibalan

OK! Now am a bigger fan of you two..(if that were even possible🤔😆)

And everytime I read Gulzar saabs lines I go

The collage and Doc your words and your poems are amazing to read. Full of emotions..

I am too awed right now to write.. have read it 2-3 times already

The best part is it matches so well to G's collage.

Good partnership!!👏

G! the edit on KP - superb. Hope you tweeted it to him - He will defo appreciate and treasure it.

Its just amazing with all the quotes..

P.S. - I know all feel very bad about the episodes aired. While I dont mind twist, as each one will only bring puttar and biwi closer😳, but what I do mind is the way Mihikas character has been butchered.

This could have been a very sensible and sensitive track.. but chalo chaddo!

Too interested in puttar and biwi to crib right now!😉

P.P.S - The above P.S note was to keep you positive so that I get more lovely posts😈

P.P.P.S - Pakka last one 😆- please give a nice title to this thread - its too beautiful to be called mere weekend musings..😳

Originally posted by: nividances

Res

*Edited*

I unfortunately made the mistake this morning of watching both Friday's and Saturday's episodes back-to-back online. Needless to say that it was nothing less than torture. But, just as you did for your musings, I will forget that the last two episodes even happened. Torture! Forget it ever happened, we are gonna pull a Bush here and deny that torture ever existed as part of our military practice Denial is sometimes best so last 2 episodes never happened 😃

Firstly a hats off and a deep bow to both of you wonderful ladies for the collage and analysis...they fit together so seamlessly. I literally stared at the collage for a solid five minutes before I even scrolled down to read the analysis ( KP my love...tum aisa kyun karte ho? Na chaahte hue bhi main tum par fida ho hi jaati hoon har baar). And it seems as though those words by Gulzar sahab were just made for Raman's current turmoil. Doc, your analysis of Raman's guilt is spot on.

I'm going to be optimistic here and "try" to give a positive spin on this guilt track to add onto what you have already said. Doc, if you remember, we had a discussion some time ago about Shagun's Raman and Ishita's Raman (on your Raman vs Raman post from Oct 25). I had said in my post that "Ishita's Raman will take a few hundred, possibly thousand, episodes to overcome Shagun's Raman." I think I may have spoken too soon because this guilt track appears to be the beginning of the journey for the emergence of Ishita's Raman. OMG you remembered an old post of mine!

I distinctly remember that conversation of ours and funny that you bring it up here because while typing this I wanted to bring out the difference between Ishita and Shagun's Raman but it was getting too wordy so i dropped the idea but I am so glad you brought this important distinction out and made it relevant with puttar's guilt 👏

Ishita's Raman is feeling guilty, but it is Shagun's Raman that is the source of this emotion. It was Shagun's Raman that "failed" in love because he was betrayed by the woman whom he loved more than himself. It was Shagun's Raman that "failed" in marriage because he could only watch as his life was torn apart by his divorce. It was Shagun's Raman that "failed" in family because he couldn't bear the thought that his son hated him and he was never able to give love to his daughter who reminded him too much of his "failed" love and marriage. Exactly! This man is different, Ishita's Raman is a new being, a secure and loved being! All he needs is a warm hug and reassurance, someone to hold his hand, to remind him he isn't alone!

In the words of Coco Chanel, "Guilt is perhaps the most painful companion of death."

The guilt that he is feeling right now will turn out to be the painful companion of death for Shagun's Raman. Ishita will not let her Raman go away from her so easily. Ishita's Raman will have to realize his worth and find his answers by moving away from the shades of his past and looking at the colors of his present. Ishita's Raman will have to realize that he is successful in love, marriage, and family, all the things that Shagun's Raman "failed" in.

I'm going to end with some lines that popped into my mind while staring at Gan's collage.

Tanha khada zindagi ke har mod par

Jeena seekh chukka tha andhere ko lekar

Berang din aur kaali raatein

Manzoor thi mujhe voh dard bhari yaadein

Kyun mitaana chahti hai yeh andhera

Humesha bana rahega yeh meri zindagi ka pehra

Chaaron taraf ki yeh kaali tanhayi

Jeetne nahin degi tujhe teri rang ki ladayi

Voh pyaar kaisa jo sirf aansoo de

Mera koi haq nahin raha hai tujh pe

Tere door jaane se mera andhera laut aayega

Par teri zindagi ka suraj toh vapis aa jaayega

Jee loonga phirse uss andhere mein

Le le ke subki, le le ke aahatein

Tu chali jaa mujhse door

Aakhir bas teri khushi hi hai ab mera fitoor.

I love G's collages have become inspiration for many on the forum to bring their inner poet to life! Lovely Nivi, you know me and my immense love for poetry...the last line and the word fitoor...I mean I am in love with the word fitoor and they way you used it, mind blown!