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Posted: 10 years ago
Why does Ishita has to justify her friendship with Mani? Her conscious is clear. If Raman has misunderstood their relation he needs to deal with it.
Raman and Ishita have been married almost a year. You would think he would realize what kind of woman Ishita is. Raman's problem is he has not dealt with his previous marriage. He has not let go of Shagun completely and is still influenced by her.

You will not please everyone in this world. The questions is, is that your problem or theirs.
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Posted: 10 years ago
It's not about "pleasing"anyone, I guess..would you consider Ishita's attempt to try and understand Raman's current position, an act of "pleasing"??? Are spouses supposed to "please"each other???
No offense...but in relationships, marriage, there's no pleasing...there's understanding, there's working towards a conjugal happiness...not separate...if raman is disturbed by something which Ishita is doing, she has every responsibility to address it...being clear in conscience does not relieve her of that duty...she has a huge heart and ultra-caring methods, but no time or understanding to spare for her husband? especially when he is at his lowest? does feminism ask us to strip ourselves of the natural instinctive and nurturing qualities women posses? do we have to become the "equal" of men in every aspect just because we are fighting for our rights? why cant we be equal AND be different? has raman ever curbed her freedom? her decision to do whatever regarding her career, family matters etc? is he colonial in his mindset and asked ishita to stop being herself ever?

she is so godawful irritating when she goes about her JJ social service work...making everybody's life a mess...but he has accepted it, hasnt he? so does it mean just because he has let her be her own person and always supported, now he doesnt have the right to question her obviously suspicious activites for the last 2-3 weeks or so?? he can go to hell because her conscience is clear?

we women can be so goddamn moody, eccentric, crazy and inexplicable sometimes, but then our partners bear with our tantrums, love us unconditionally, support us, pamper us... So why do we get all mighty and righteous when the tables are turned? Does the man not have the same right to expect a little understanding, instrospection, attention and common sensical behaviour which ishita clearly lacks, right now atleast...?

If CVs are trying to impress this crap upon audience, its a big mistake they are doing..its not just a show we invest out emotions in, its also a place we take back a lot from..subconsciously..if tomorrow marriages break because boundaries between frndship and love get blurred, and spouses are kept to the sidelines, acting like roommates rather than partners, then such stupid soaps will be much to blame!


Ishita has every right to keep her mouth shut and go about her way, with her chip up and head held high coz she has done no wrong. And Raman is also as much entitled to entertain Shagun back in his life, if the need arises...why not? If its all Ruhi ke liye, then be so...but on one condition...Ishita will hav to walk about her way as nonchalantly as she is doing right now...agar raman ne koi hak khoya hai, toh ishita ne bhi khoya hai...]


If my partner, the love of my life cant understand me at my lowest worst, then he/she doesnt deserve to be with me when am at my best..coz its so easy to love someone who is good and happy all the time..but do you have the courage to love someone who is a real person who can also be difficult sometimes?
Edited by gravity23 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: gravity23

It's not about "pleasing"anyone, I guess..would you consider Ishita's attempt to try and understand Raman's current position, an act of "pleasing"??? Are spouses supposed to "please"each other???

No offense...but in relationships, marriage, there's no pleasing...there's understanding, there's working towards a conjugal happiness...not separate...if raman is disturbed by something which Ishita is doing, she has every responsibility to address it...being clear in conscience does not relieve her of that duty...she has a huge heart and ultra-caring methods, but no time or understanding to spare for her husband? especially when he is at his lowest? does feminism ask us to strip ourselves of the natural instinctive and nurturing qualities women posses? do we have to become the "equal" of men in every aspect just because we are fighting for our rights? why cant we be equal AND be different? has raman ever curbed her freedom? her decision to do whatever regarding her career, family matters etc? is he colonial in his mindset and asked ishita to stop being herself ever?

she is so godawful irritating when she goes about her JJ social service work...making everybody's life a mess...but he has accepted it, hasnt he? so does it mean just because he has let her be her own person and always supported, now he doesnt have the right to question her obviously suspicious activites for the last 2-3 weeks or so?? he can go to hell because her conscience is clear?

we women can be so goddamn moody, eccentric, crazy and inexplicable sometimes, but then our partners bear with our tantrums, love us unconditionally, support us, pamper us... So why do we get all mighty and righteous when the tables are turned? Does the man not have the same right to expect a little understanding, instrospection, attention and common sensical behaviour which ishita clearly lacks, right now atleast...?

If CVs are trying to impress this crap upon audience, its a big mistake they are doing..its not just a show we invest out emotions in, its also a place we take back a lot from..subconsciously..if tomorrow marriages break because boundaries between frndship and love get blurred, and spouses are kept to the sidelines, acting like roommates rather than partners, then such stupid soaps will be much to blame!


Ishita has every right to keep her mouth shut and go about her way, with her chip up and head held high coz she has done no wrong. And Raman is also as much entitled to entertain Shagun back in his life, if the need arises...why not? If its all Ruhi ke liye, then be so...but on one condition...Ishita will hav to walk about her way as nonchalantly as she is doing right now...agar raman ne koi hak khoya hai, toh ishita ne bhi khoya hai...]


If my partner, the love of my life cant understand me at my lowest worst, then he/she doesnt deserve to be with me when am at my best..coz its so easy to love someone who is good and happy all the time..but do you have the courage to love someone who is a real person who can also be difficult sometimes?


Thank u so much for this post!!! I was trying to search for something sensible like this. Coz after his animal-like bahaviour with her even I was scared that was she has done will be ignored. True what he did was wrong and he will have to repent for that but in the light of that huge mistake we cant ignore those small instances where she ignored him and his family all together!! Not taking any elders advice whom she considers family by the way, not letting them know of the condition of their own kid (calling Mani (!!!) to help out with Romi instead of his family), her over-dependence on Mani, lying for whatever reasons, calling Mani her hero her saviour at every little thing, she has hurt Raman with all this!!!!

She needs to start realizing his importance in her life and give him that due special place. I dont want her give him her character certificate or explain her relation with Mani, Raman needs to understand that on his own but she needs to understand what caused him all that distress and rectify those mistakes at least! If there is a communication gap its not only Raman's fault its Ishita's too. In a marriage both parties need to work . Here she sees he is preoccupied with something but chooses to completely ignore it? Now knows that her over involvement with Mani is troubling her husband but is rubbing that in his face!!! Just the name of Shagun was enough to hurt her in that function, she shud know what her weeks and weeks of Mani jaap must have done to her man. If Raman will now try to talk to her repent for his mistakes then she cant go about shunning him like she has done in the past few weeks.

@bold: I'd like to supplement the line with this quote- " Love me when I least deserve it, coz thats when I most need it. "

Raman has his past insecurities which he has to overcome but it has to be Ishita to help him with that, no other person can. Not his family, not hers, not Mani! Raman has always been there for her when she has needed him, he has helped him get over insecurities related to her motherhood or when she thot she wasnt desirable enough for any man. He helped her without her saying even a word! So here she has to let him know that he is special in his heart and no other person takes precedence.

During Adi case track Raman lied to Ishita for a reason but she misunderstood him. He was shown understanding that and later trying to make up for that. He even tried to make her understand his condition. Here now, whatever be the reason but she lied and ignored him all along so she needs to understand that and clear that. It really pisses me off to see that again in a show they are trying to show a leading lady who is ALWAYS right. And the man is always wrong???? This is imbalance in a relationship! When she misunderstood him it was only his fault now when he misunderstands her, then too its ONLY his fault??

She doesnt want to give a character certificate fine, but atleast understand his woes, help him rise above his insecurities that he doesnt deserve to be loved and can never make any woman happy, by letting him know that he truly is the best and she does love him the way he is.

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Liashna

Lovely post Kri 👏

I genuinely see no reason why Ishita should be blamed and ask for forgiveness. Married women do have best guy friends. And here theirs is already an unconventional marriage. Ishita is so clueless because she has no reason to understand Raman is doubting her. Unless Raman says it on her face that I caught your lies (white lies) and saw you say Ilu to Mani, I don't think Ishita has some telepathic power to understand his issues.

Ishita was shown an independent bold lady from the beginning... she told her In laws about Param.. But then Raman couldn't side her. But here Raman doesn't even confront her. He need to say it in clear words for her to get it.

On the first doubt when he throws the bracelet, she cries, she tells him, am not a liar. And she gives him a silent treatment but he comes asking for forgiveness, to the extent of faking his accident. Now when a person will ask to be forgiven, it's understood that he realised his mistake and doesn't doubt her anymore right?


"Ishita becomes a pativrata when she goes out of her comfort zone by wearing western dresses to please Raman but she's not supposed to hug Mani because she's a Tamilian."

^^ I love this one Kri 👍🏼

It's not about Mani here, it's about Raman's insecurity. Had it been any other handsome guy he would react similarly. He was 'jealous' even of Bala. He goes out to buy a necklace just to put him in the top of her -to be admire/loved- list. He wants to prove that he can be the number one. So it's really not Ishita here.

"Both of them have their own flaws which is making them special... After this journey of 10 months, they are still there... Ishita Iyer and Raman Kumar Bhalla... untouched... Shedding their layers one by one... I'm in awe... The way they dealt with this uncalled disaster..."

True yaar, today's epi was about them both. Just love the writers for this beautiful and intense epi 😳.


Thanks for this post,a much needed one 😳

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Posted: 10 years ago
Exactly!!
I wont defend Raman's drunk behaviour...but behind every dismal situation is a WHY..Raman already knows his side of the ""why"...now Ishita needs to understand his distress and make him understand...a character cert. is not needed, and I dont think RAMAN even wants that~!!

but in this moment of uncertainty, pain and confusion, what the man needs most is ASSURANCE. If your partner cant understand your feelings and even provide you that bit, then what is the use being bharat maata for everybody else??

Just because one is a good person in everybody's eyes, doesnt automatically make him/her a good spouse as well!! ishita might be Mother India, but if she cant understand her husband, his concerns, his anguish, then acc to me she has failed as a wife...

just saying you are right and need not put in any effort AT ALL, doesnt fulfill your duty as a spouse..when you walk together in life, just as much as you are a part of your partner''s success, ambitions, happiness...the same way you are in it together when it comes to fears, insecurities, anguish, pain...nahin toh kya shaadi yaar...

here, ishita is so dumbstruck and so indignant that raman took shagun's name...she wanted to be a part of this glory speech at the conference, but she doesnt want to be privy to his deepest feelings, his fears, his emotions...she is behaving like a you-know-what
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Posted: 10 years ago
Akangsha you always amaze me with your sensible posts reflecting realism

If my partner, the love of my life cant understand me at my lowest worst, then he/she doesnt deserve to be with me when am at my best..coz its so easy to love someone who is good and happy all the time..but do you have the courage to love someone who is a real person who can also be difficult sometimes?

Excellent ^^
Edited by Colt.Pixy - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
@Colt.Pixy
Thank you soo much yaar!! arrey dil se nikalta hai..

agar koi mujhse sirf isliye pyaar karta hai ki main acchi hun, sundar hun, helpful hun, hamesha khush rehti hun, kabhi chillati nahin hun, falana dhimkana hun...

toh jis din main yeh sab nahin ban paaungi uss din main pyaar ke layak nahin? Is this what they are trying to prove in the show? And yeh kaise type ka pyaar hai waise??!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
@Colt.Pixy
Thank you soo much yaar!! arrey dil se nikalta hai..

agar koi mujhse sirf isliye pyaar karta hai ki main acchi hun, sundar hun, helpful hun, hamesha khush rehti hun, kabhi chillati nahin hun, falana dhimkana hun...

toh jis din main yeh sab nahin ban paaungi uss din main pyaar ke layak nahin? Is this what they are trying to prove in the show? And yeh kaise type ka pyaar hai waise??!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
Well i am glad ur saying what u hav to say freely, bcoz i agree with u, this forum reaction is sometimes too much, overeaction,
Anyways one thing i diagree with u, ishita had acted stupidly in this track, she hasnt used her brain, she call mani 24 on 24, so for me she is at fault, concerning raman, he even rescued shagun when a guy was misbehaving with her, he would never have raped ishita, never!!
But anyways i am glad the track ended, suddenely or not suddenely i personally dont care, i dont want any confrontation, n i wanted ishita apologies, but now leave that too, raman n ishita r back into their character, i am glad they r like before, and i personnally loved yesterdays episode, but again this forum have very negativs reactions, i am happy with their noks joks, at least, we wont have the headache we had lately!! Just my POV no offense...to anyone
Edited by The_Imane - 10 years ago

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