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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hey guys :) My opinions and thoughts after tonight's epi. No hard feelings, I still love the show loads, but theres just this ONE thing I really dislike, that CVs happen to do once in a while with some episodes... and they are doing it again now. This time, I think I will talk about it... because it needs to be criticized.

They do this in the show many times, they have done it in the past, and here they go doing it again. Earlier it was ok, because I thought theek hai they are giving Ishra the time they need to develop and change...but now its been quite some time since their marriage, and they are even realizing their love for each other... now they REALLY need to fix this. Its time, YHM! Its high time!

The last time that I got REALLY pissed when something like this happened, was during the whole Ishra-Shagun salsa dance fiasco. I was really, really upset that Ishita was immensely hurt by Raman, and she did nothing. There was no real discussion, no realization on Raman's part of where he was wrong, no efforts to touch on this topic... nothing. It was really disappointing and frustrating. I can never forget that.

Even after that whole thing, CVs continued to show this angry, rude Raman blasting Ishita... and I was like ok whatever, just ignore it Ria... its an indian show, whatever. But NOW, because Ishra are actually in love... this is getting too annoying to ignore!

I understand that this is defining Ishita and Raman's characters. Ishita is not the kind of person to react in zest or yell, shout and whatever. And Raman is the kind of person that will shout and say a lot of things in anger. I get it, I understand this is their character. But as Ishra's relationship has been developing, they as people should naturally change and adapt accordingly. We have reached a point in the show where Raman loves Ishita, and has drastically changed as a person because of her. Why and how does he go back to his rude self? I dont understand.

And Ishita? Isnt she supposed to be a strong, independent, professional woman? This is the same woman that had no inhibitions yelling at a man for mistreating his little daughter, even though she had no relation with him. And now when she is MARRIED AND IN LOVE with this same man... she all of a sudden never says a WORD when he makes rude comments to her every other day?!! she doesnt tell him when he is wrong now?? This is the same woman that fought back against this man when he charged her parents with kidnapping, when his brother allegedly made an MMS of her sister, and so many other instances. And now, this same man who she had no problems fixing before when he was a stranger... all of a sudden when he is now her husband and love... she ignores his unfair anger bursts and doesnt say a word to him?!? I dont understand.

YHM is notorious for this. One week, Ishra are in love... romancing, being all sweet and cute. The next week, we see Raman go back to his rude self, say something mean to Ishita, and Ishita keeps quiet. Then, in the next episode, we see Raman Ishita back to some random nokh-jokh. WHY?? AGAIN, they are doing this now. Raman in tonights episode threatens to kick Ishita out of his life (again!)... and in tomorrows episode, we are going to see Raman back to his cute self, playing pranks??!! And Ishita, as always, does nothing.

It does not matter why Raman says what he does in anger. He can have whatever reason, but that does not mean he can always say whatever he wants. And not once does he think back and regret what he has said?? Ek scene mein itna kuch bol ke, doosre hi scene mein bhool gaya?

It does not matter if Ishita understands and knows Raman is like this. This being his nature, character or whatever, does not give him an excuse to be rude. She should help him change for the better... she should TELL him he is wrong, make him realize, stop him from saying things he shouldn't in anger. But she never does!! She goes around lecturing about everything else, why does she not touch this topic??

It just annoys me when they do this, and now even more so. I am waiting for the day Ishita shuts Raman up right then and there, when he is angry and says something stupid. I am waiting for the day Raman realizes his problem and attempts to fix it. I am waiting for the day Ishra face this flaw, and actually do something about it. More than all of this, I am waiting for the day YHM CVs stop jumping for one anger burst scene, to nohk-jokh, to anger scene.

Ladies and Gents, this... what we are seeing here this week... is typical Ekta. This makes me remember and never forget that I am in fact watching an Indian Ekta soap opera.

xxRia
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Perfect analysis. Couldn't Agree more.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: xxRiaKapoorxx

Hey guys :) My opinions and thoughts after tonight's epi. No hard feelings, I still love the show loads, but theres just this ONE thing I really dislike, that CVs happen to do once in a while with some episodes... and they are doing it again now. This time, I think I will talk about it... because it needs to be criticized.


They do this in the show many times, they have done it in the past, and here they go doing it again. Earlier it was ok, because I thought theek hai they are giving Ishra the time they need to develop and change...but now its been quite some time since their marriage, and they are even realizing their love for each other... now they REALLY need to fix this. Its time, YHM! Its high time!

The last time that I got REALLY pissed when something like this happened, was during the whole Ishra-Shagun salsa dance fiasco. I was really, really upset that Ishita was immensely hurt by Raman, and she did nothing. There was no real discussion, no realization on Raman's part of where he was wrong, no efforts to touch on this topic... nothing. It was really disappointing and frustrating. I can never forget that.

Even after that whole thing, CVs continued to show this angry, rude Raman blasting Ishita... and I was like ok whatever, just ignore it Ria... its an indian show, whatever. But NOW, because Ishra are actually in love... this is getting too annoying to ignore!

I understand that this is defining Ishita and Raman's characters. Ishita is not the kind of person to react in zest or yell, shout and whatever. And Raman is the kind of person that will shout and say a lot of things in anger. I get it, I understand this is their character. But as Ishra's relationship has been developing, they as people should naturally change and adapt accordingly. We have reached a point in the show where Raman loves Ishita, and has drastically changed as a person because of her. Why and how does he go back to his rude self? I dont understand.

And Ishita? Isnt she supposed to be a strong, independent, professional woman? This is the same woman that had no inhibitions yelling at a man for mistreating his little daughter, even though she had no relation with him. And now when she is MARRIED AND IN LOVE with this same man... she all of a sudden never says a WORD when he makes rude comments to her every other day?!! she doesnt tell him when he is wrong now?? This is the same woman that fought back against this man when he charged her parents with kidnapping, when his brother allegedly made an MMS of her sister, and so many other instances. And now, this same man who she had no problems fixing before when he was a stranger... all of a sudden when he is now her husband and love... she ignores his unfair anger bursts and doesnt say a word to him?!? I dont understand.

YHM is notorious for this. One week, Ishra are in love... romancing, being all sweet and cute. The next week, we see Raman go back to his rude self, say something mean to Ishita, and Ishita keeps quiet. Then, in the next episode, we see Raman Ishita back to some random nokh-jokh. WHY?? AGAIN, they are doing this now. Raman in tonights episode threatens to kick Ishita out of his life (again!)... and in tomorrows episode, we are going to see Raman back to his cute self, playing pranks??!! And Ishita, as always, does nothing.

It does not matter why Raman says what he does in anger. He can have whatever reason, but that does not mean he can always say whatever he wants. And not once does he think back and regret what he has said?? Ek scene mein itna kuch bol ke, doosre hi scene mein bhool gaya?

It does not matter if Ishita understands and knows Raman is like this. This being his nature, character or whatever, does not give him an excuse to be rude. She should help him change for the better... she should TELL him he is wrong, make him realize, stop him from saying things he shouldn't in anger. But she never does!! She goes around lecturing about everything else, why does she not touch this topic??

It just annoys me when they do this, and now even more so. I am waiting for the day Ishita shuts Raman up right then and there, when he is angry and says something stupid. I am waiting for the day Raman realizes his problem and attempts to fix it. I am waiting for the day Ishra face this flaw, and actually do something about it. More than all of this, I am waiting for the day YHM CVs stop jumping for one anger burst scene, to nohk-jokh, to anger scene.

Ladies and Gents, this... what we are seeing here this week... is typical Ekta. This makes me remember and never forget that I am in fact watching an Indian Ekta soap opera.

xxRia



I agree with your post, ria! in fact i don't like the lack of flow when it comes to raman shouting like crazy-ishu sulking and in the next scene... Raman is normal n ishita smiling at him again. i mean don't the cvs understand that no other woman or human being in general would tolerate being shouted at n then not saying anything or behaving like if nothing happened. i m not sure if this message can be conveyed to the cvs, but its a horrible flaw, which irks me now. in the beginning like ishu taking shogun home, i thought ok raman n ishu had that talk in their room after his shouting session, but hello-how come raman is rude, aggressive, respect less n whatever else. i know its his nature, but dude, ishita has a self-respect as well. its kind of domestic violence (i know thats a harsh word) but its unbearable as a woman to accept the way raman treats her. even in yesterdays episode, many blamed raman for being insensitive calling her kachra n comparing her with dinosaur. i didn't mind that much, BUT todyas episode was way too much. infact because of RAMAN ishu has all the KACHRA (shogun, ashok, suraj, adi) in her life.
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I agree with your post, ria! in fact i don't like the lack of flow when it comes to raman shouting like crazy-ishu sulking and in the next scene... Raman is normal n ishita smiling at him again. i mean don't the cvs understand that no other woman or human being in general would tolerate being shouted at n then not saying anything or behaving like if nothing happened. i m not sure if this message can be conveyed to the cvs, but its a horrible flaw, which irks me now. in the beginning like ishu taking shogun home, i thought ok raman n ishu had that talk in their room after his shouting session, but hello-how come raman is rude, aggressive, respect less n whatever else. i know its his nature, but dude, ishita has a self-respect as well. its kind of domestic violence (i know thats a harsh word) but its unbearable as a woman to accept the way raman treats her. even in yesterdays episode, many blamed raman for being insensitive calling her kachra n comparing her with dinosaur. i didn't mind that much, BUT todyas episode was way too much. infact because of RAMAN ishu has all the KACHRA (shogun, ashok, suraj, adi) in her life.


@Bold, Red: YES! EXACTLY MY POINT. Ishita is a woman, and deserves to be respected. There are plenty of men like Raman in real life too, who get angry and say things they should not say. Its very real, and I am glad they are showing this in the show. But, in real life, there is no woman who would be an abla nari like Ishita and not say anything to her husband in response!!! She needs to speak up!

and on your point about Raman calling her kachra... yes, they do this a lot too. Sometimes, uske one-liners and jokes ke chakar mein, they end up saying something that is actually really mean. i understand that it is supposed to just be for a laugh, but sometimes it is too much.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well I will try to give a counter view on this issue. I am not saying that Ishita or Raman is right or wrong, just trying to understand y CV's or writers show them this way.

Raman is a person when he gets angry or when he taunts does not realize that he is going overboard n saying stuff that one is not supposed to say in Anger or while making somebody's fun. I agree to this.

But today Ishita said "SHaant rahiye, shanti se sochiye" So basically what ishita is trying to do here is asking him to be polite and also think logically not impulsively with the help of anger.

While Raman taunts her about her voice, looks n guar se nikalunga stuff, he is either defensive in his taunt or is trying to put forth a right intention to Ishita. It comes across as rude, but Ishita thinks that its better to ignore n let Raman take out all his frustrations than him keeping it in his mind and suffering from the pain.

Even today when Raman was blasting at Ishita he was just trying to say that don't go n meddle in their lives henceforth, he came across as rude when he said Ghar se Nikal Dunga, I agree but he thinks there is no other way to stop Ishita from meddling in other peoples lives. For we have seen that Ishita goes out of her way to do good for people (undeserving like Param, Shagun and Snajana) and ends up looking like a fool after helping those people. Although her intentions r good but it is not helping her in anyways for the good deed she is doing.

Ishita thinks that if she also opens up her mouth and reacts harshly to Raman (Which according to me she should but m writing in terms of what Ishita as a character thinks here), then both will just end up fighting nothing else. So being a matured one, ignores his taunts coz she knows that he doesn't mean it actually, doesn't take things to heart n moves on.

I think CV's created a wonderful character in making Ishita. If she remains quiet while listening to her husbands barbs or anger its not because she is a doormat or a weak person but because she doesn't want to magnify the matter and blow it out of proportion. She in her own sweet way is trying to reform RKB (for good by trying to reduce his anger) without pointing out his mistakes.





Edited by mnr123 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I totally agree..the stupid comments have moved to being annoying rather than funny..and high tine raman shows a little restraint while talking to ishita..what is with the threat of cutting her out every second episode? And is it so impossible to have raman have a little introspection into his behaviour? How long are the cvs supposed to carry on the rustic punjabi lack of manners nonsense? Nobody talks like tht..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Perfect analysis.. 👍🏼 and agree with u completely..
I don't understand why they turn ishita like this..if something is wrong then why does she take it?? He shouts on her anywhere anytime ..if he is frustrated thatswhy he took out his anger on her ??? His behavior is very rude sometimes.. In today's epi he was shouting on her but all drama happened because of him..and what he said I will throw u out of my life if u do something like that !!! And ishita listening it ..why didn't she just tell him u r wrong this time ..nok-jok ke Nam pe so many insulting dialogues.. I'm not liking it ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree there is inconsistency in how they Show Ishra relationship. One day they act like they are in love, the next they act like they are enemies, the next day they act like friends. I for one have no clue where either one of them is with the other. Raman yells one day, next day he is all lovey dovey or taunting or teasing and both of them act like they dont remember the yelling. The other day in balcony it sounded like Ishita is realizing her love, but then today when Mani asked her answer sounded like a denial. And both just said marriage dont need love. 😆 Short term memory disorder for the writers.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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There are times when I too feel the same way when raman gets a way too rude with ishita. However today somewhere I felt ishita needed this dose of reality. Being nice is a good thing, being helpful is a divine quality. But ishita needs to understand the fact there are times n there are certain set of people who should be helped only when they ask for it not otherwise. Raman wants to keep his wife away from people who have time n again created so much mess in their lives. Shagun is responsible for whatever happens to her. Ashok was her choice. She needs to face the consequences of her decisions weather good or bad.
Ishita is too pure a soul to be getting into shagun's matter and end up hurting herself. Raman just wanted to protect her from the hurt n problems he is envisaging.

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