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Posted: 10 years ago
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Since Mihir and Mihika are the poster children for yeh hain MOHABBATEIN, I agree, their romance should not be nuked
The leads are busy recreating Sooraj Barjatya epics on small screen they have zilch time for things like romance
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Posted: 10 years ago
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i actually liked what raman said in the balcony, people were so quick to dismiss it as mahanata or scoff at him but there was a lot of truth to what he said. One cannot live the rest of his life hating a person with so much intensity because it will eventually poison you, just like it poisoned raman. you need to let things go and free of yourself, Hate can slowly begin to feel like burden but forgiveness can bring a sense of peace. No one said raman and mihir need to like shagun, it was just about forgiving her and moving on.
This episode was not about ishita's right or wrong, she was not even the main focus of the episode, it was about getting closure and letting things go.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very very nice post i also actually loved the episode especially the acting was great raman mihir and shagun and also ishita rocked
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Finally I got a place where I could vent out my views. Thanks Nisha.. I never expect much logic or rationality in a daily soap, that too from Ekta camp, I still feel there should be a considerable level of it.
.. We are not stuck to the same Kyunki saas bhi kabhi bahu thi -Tulsi or Kahani ghar ghar ki- Parvathi types of female protagonist.. We have crossed that belief of typical idealistic characters long time..

Protagonists should have some flaws. Portraying a character way too much idealistic and being too naive to be believed is becoming indigestible.When the protagonist is a well educated professional, independent, principled, I would expect that she should be smart enough to read the real world around her. Mistakes done a couple of times can be excused, but never learning from it is unpardonable. Whether bringing Param and Shagun home without considering and Consulting other , believing in some stranger's story till creating a scene in Mihir's Tilak function in the name of mending the relationship is not expected from a smart woman like Ishita.

I loved Ishita's character in the beginning and Divyanka adorning it was awesome.. But lately, the character seems to be lost somewhere between being smart and acting stupid... I am slightly disappointed. Being a woman myself, I don't want an educated, professional , urban female to be depicted like this..

Today I expected Ishita to say something like - she was playing all along with Shagun to get the truth out from Mihir and she had doubted Sanjana from the beginning, (just to be save the character to being complete fool).. But NOOO.. Or at least expected her to apologize to Mihir and Raman for all the fiasco in the function however clearly stating that she is still upset with Raman for hiding it from her.. but again NO.. Being idealistic also mean to accept ones mistake and rectifying it.. I m again disappointed..

Another major let down was Raman too. Acting as if nothing happened when he clearly warned her not to interfere in Mihir's personal life and not even apologizing for hiding the truth from her.

But positives that should be appreciated are
1) Raman and Mihir's Bonding: Fabulous acting by KP and Raj
2) Very Understanding approach by Iyers

To Ekta: I remember you saying in one of your interviews, I think Koffee with Karan... that people Idolize men and fantasize women on big screen, but idolize women and fantasize men from small screen. I agree to your point to some extend though.. However, I don't want to idolize a very naive and immature character like Ishita ( as it is turning out to be). 😭






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Posted: 10 years ago
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Do you atleast agree Ishita's "MERE RAMAN" was uncaled for, upon hearing him sermonize like herself? Is her love so selfish, it can only come to the fore when she sees her husband act like herself?

If he had been angry and upset at the event being ruined (what SHOULD have been the rightful reaction) would we have all beat up on Raman collectively for yelling at her?

Can you place yourself in Ishita's shoes and seriously imagine gushing over your husband and not feel an iota of remorse at gutting a family function?

I mean where does her nobility end? Couldnt there have been a more appropriate place and time for that s--- forgiveness and redemption?

Do we ALWAYS need Ishita's high handed intervention? What if the wedding had happened without anyone knowing who Shagun is? Would that have been the worst thing in the world?

Why do we always justify the female lead's self -aggrandizement as necessary and appropriate?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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@susheela - I saw a post yesterday where the TM was hoping for the same that you were expecting from Ishita that she was playing all along with Sanjana just so she could get Mihir to spill the beans. Just like I said in that thread, I am going to say the same here. To me Ishita's character has been butchered to the nth degree. Just like you, I fell in love with Ishita's charcter who was portrayed as strong, independent,calm, rational and collected from day 1. She made well thought out decisions understanding the ramifications and impact of what she and family will be faced with. It all went down the drain the minute she brought Param the disgusting pervert home without putting any thought and then goes and talks to him when he shamelessly drools over her. Is that man even worth going near without her skin crawling considering what he did to her? To top it all off, she asks him about Sanjana as though he is a well wisher who would tell her exactly what was going on? Then she brought Shagun home which Shagun herself mocked at her asking her if she couldn't find a hotel to put her overnight. I had no issues with her helping Shagun but issues with her taking Shagun straight to her bedroom. The Ishita who was portrayed in the inital episodes would never do things like this. She had a good heart then and even has now but then she was logical and thought rationally now she is acting dense, illogical and unintelligent. There was no remorse about the way she behaved over her assumption of Sanjana and Raman's relationship and I felt there was inconsistency all along where last episode she was chopping his head off and today no remorse or apology to Raman and/or MIhir and went directly to lovingly gazing at Raman and calling her "Mere Raman". I have no issues with her adoring her husband who is a good hearted, loving and selfless individual but where is the continuity from last night's episode. May be they will bring that up in Monday's episode I hope.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very well thought out response. I dont know if I could have summarized it any better.
Message to Ms Kapoor: BANG ON! Very well captured there!

I agree its about time we quit idolizing women of small screen. Ishita Bhalla is a pale shadow of her former self (Ishita Iyer).
I am plainly TIRED of watching the TV husbands nod and tow their line after every family crisis

Either we need to see the male lead's outburst in good measure or have the female deal dial down the "world reform council's" mission a few notches

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I have to point out though, the Ishita Iyer of the pre-wedding days didnt know when to mind her own business either. After she publicly humiliates Raman at the TV station She is returning with Amma and, she spots Mrs Bhalla unable to walk carrying two heavy bags, despite her Amma's admonishment she walks over in cavalier fashion and reaches for Mrs Bhallas bags!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mrs Bhalla hurts and humiliates her mercilessly, the whole complex watches on.

How many single girls that live in India would do that?

Not only did she became the object of unnecessary ridicule and mockery of all the residents living there, she placed her DEAR DARLING AMMA in a position where she had to endure her daughter being torn to pieces by Mrs Bhalla😲

I am not big on conjectures, may be that bag represented Ruhi's love and she was trying to take it on.🤢

After they gain custody at the court house, Shagun trashes her cruelly, she stands there like a speech impaired person, Mrs Bhalla walks over to her and reminds her "I have no clue if you are truly as angelic as you pretend to be, but if you can go ruin my son's reputation at the TV station you can as well STAND UP FOR YOURSELF, Cant you?"

Ishita Bhalla is a glutton for humiliation and punishment... Somethings never change.

I want to know from all those that live in post marriage set up like Ishita Bhalla "Would you have done a similar act at your in-laws's wedding event?(bring a girl off the street and accuse your husband of sleeping with her followed by forcing that girl down your devar's throat?)'

Even if you had gotten away with it, would your husband have stolen your speech and narrated it to the groom like Raman did?

Would there be no remorse? Why do we justify Ishita having no shame or embarrassment?

Edited by Nisha0604 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Nisha - You can call me Priya. I used to live with my parents up until last year and then I had to leave them to pursue my studies. As far as I can tell, I have seen my sister in law's interactions with my parents and her family and if I were to place her in Ishita's shoes she would never do such a thing in a million years 😆. My SIL is an educated working woman and so was my mom until she retired recently. Anyways like the other poster mentioned, it is Ekta's way of saying that she is catering to what is expected of her which is like swallowing a hard pill for people like us. I remember in one of the Koffee with Karan episodes where they questioned about the TRPs of one of her shows and how illogical some of the tracks were she got very upset and said that she is doing exactly what she knows would bring TRPs and if people have problem with it then they can switch off their TV. I thought that was callous and rude yet she is the reigning queen of television. Go figure! However, one good thing she is for sure noteworthy is that her lead pair are always scorching and have sizzling chemistry. Even if they lack in the beginning she makes them work and makes it happen. Just like how we have become suckers for Ishra😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Well, Ishita did not do wrong, though chose a bit wrong way.
So, no argument on that.
Ishita said sorry to mihir or not, it's like a confusion to me. I assumed she said sorry or felt guilty infront of Mihir when they weren't shown. It's just assumption, so don't jump on me😆. And, we are yet to see Ishita's sorry to Raman or a whole hearted talk where she gives explanation to her actions. Aise, she gave explanation to Mihir that forgetting the past and accepting the sis-bro relationship will spare him and Raman from present tortures. Though she dint know that sis is Shagun, but Mihir's pain is Raman's pain. For me this is obviously a selfish motive of Ishita doing all this drama😆.
I just read Rubi's post. God...she is the best ever in explaining things...positive or negative, her analysis always makes me thing that why I dint think like this. There she said that, first and final time Raman said clearly to Mihir to let Shagun go, he too has let her go and he has progressed in his life. He many time said tp Ishita that Shagun doesn't mean anything to him, most of the times in anger. So, it's rational for Ishita to think that Raman doesn't like Shagun and doesn't want Ishita to be upset about Shagun, that's why he says those. But, for the first time may be (I may be wrong), he said it in a sensible mood and thought to let Shagun go, and that time he dint even see Ishita. This is why Ishita thought, now it's only the genuine him, who said the genuine truth not for her not even for Mihir, just expressed his mind clearly. And, now what's the problem if she calls Raman her Raman as he closed that Shagun chapter forever with a smiling face. There's a difference when he used to say those before from that balcony scene. It's not like that Raman forgave Shagun and that's why Ishita is happy about that Raman became like her, it's about Raman erasing the Shagun forever...a women in his life whom he loved, she doesn't hold any place in his life, it was his expressions of relief along with his words, which made Ishita think that wise.
If Ishita wanted Raman to be like her, she wouldn't have cherished the rain dance moment even when Raman again taunted and shouted at her and made fun of her. She loves Raman the way he is, only thing was missing from this Raman that he isn't open to his feelings. And, he did this in the balcony scene, Ishita knew about his mind status about his past and present. There was only present, there was only Ishita, Ruhi, Adi and his full family, but no Shagun. The insecurity of Ishita about Raman's past kinda vanished by Raman's words. Doesn't that make Raman only her Raman😉??
Edited by DivAniTanni - 10 years ago

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