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Posted: 11 years ago
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As far as i have seen the serial.
subu left Ishita because she cannot be mother. It came suddenly to him.
I would have thought of him wrong if after knowing this and then falling in love for 12 years and then leaving ishu. I would have considered wrong if knowing this he married her and made her felt about her physical weakness on daily basis.
I think its normal human behavior.

If he would have married her then we can see his pyar is mahan.
But as of now he is normal human.

Isn't Madhavi aunty (ishu mom) wrong when she hide it from subu and family. and thought may be after marriage Ishita can become mother on her own. if even after marriage Ishu's pysical condition is same. what would madu aunty have done?She just wanted Ishu's happiness and wanted her to be married. that we can consider as normal.
But when Subu's mom wanted her son not to married infertile gal she is wrong.
Subu's mom is horrible on other matters. but here i find her normal.

The time Mihika and mihir's marriage isn't both the families denied relationship because of their dis likeness toward each other.
Didn't Tandon do the same with Neil?

So in yhm i feel every character is normal human being.
Except Ishita now a days at least who serial wallah showing some great person.

Will Raman and Ishu let marry Ruhi such boy who cannot be father?


Please let me know your thoughts .


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Posted: 11 years ago
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I will agree to all of it if I get the answer for just one question. Is marriage only about kids? Don't we have couples who cannot have children? I don't think its about the Mahaanta of a person. Mrs Iyer was wrong in hiding the truth but Subbu should have thought about it instead of just agreeing to his mother. It was a 12 year old relationship. He should have shared his insecurities with Ishita first then he could have taken a decision.

And whereas Subbu's mom is concerned,I dont have any sympathies for her and that's because of her notion of Infertility. Its shocking. She had the right to be angry. Agreed. She wanted a Waaris or whatever. Agreed. But calling Ishita a Baanjh/Apshagun and what not. This is horrible and unforgiving. She not leaving a chance to degrade or abuse Ishita and her family. Totally uncalled for.

In our forum we have always supported the right acts and criticised the wrong ones. People dont hate Subbu's mom for her breaking Subbu-Ishu's relationship but for the way she is. And nobody has bad mouthed subbu also. Its just sad that after 12 years of a beautiful relationship, he could not support the one he loved. He left her at a point where she needed him the most...more than her own family.

Ishita is not completely mahaan. She tends to be but she too has her own faults. Maybe compared to others, her actions are a bit more selfless. But no one in the show is completely positive.

Raman and Ishita will teach Ruhi to value things that matter. And if she loves a boy who cannot father then I think Ishita and Raman will support and guide her much better. In the end its the person in the relationship who has to decide. And trust me, Ishita and Raman will do much better than what Subbu's mom did.
Edited by rupali_rout - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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finally interesting post on subbu
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rupali_rout

I will agree to all of it if I get the answer for just one question. Is marriage only about kids? Don't we have couples who cannot have children? I don't think its about the Mahaanta of a person. Mrs Iyer was wrong in hiding the truth but Subbu should have thought about it instead of just agreeing to his mother. It was a 12 year old relationship. He should have shared his insecurities with Ishita first then he could have taken a decision.


And whereas Subbu's mom is concerned,I dont have any sympathies for her and that's because of her notion of Infertility. Its shocking. She had the right to be angry. Agreed. She wanted a Waaris or whatever. Agreed. But calling Ishita a Baanjh/Apshagun and what not. This is horrible and unforgiving. She not leaving a chance to degrade or abuse Ishita and her family. Totally uncalled for.

In our forum we have always supported the right acts and criticised the wrong ones. People dont hate Subbu's mom for her breaking Subbu-Ishu's relationship but for the way she is. And nobody has bad mouthed subbu also. Its just sad that after 12 years of a beautiful relationship, he could not support the one he loved. He left her at a point where she needed him the most...more than her own family.

Ishita is not completely mahaan. She tends to be but she too has her own faults. Maybe compared to others, her actions are a bit more selfless. But no one in the show is completely positive.

Raman and Ishita will teach Ruhi to value things that matter. And if she loves a boy who cannot father then I think Ishita and Raman will support and guide her much better. In the end its the person in the relationship who has to decide. And trust me, Ishita and Raman will do much better than what Subbu's mom did.


Thats what i meant he was being normal human being who wants to lead normal life have kids.
He said its true i love ishita very much.
but i want kids. Isn't it good he knows what he wants with life?
I can think Subu wrong if i think he didnt do mahaan act.
Please help me to think abt him is wrong way.
Dont want to think him normal human being.
Please guys make me understand how he is wrong apart from being mahaan pyar janam janam ka saath.
Really need help.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rupali_rout

I will agree to all of it if I get the answer for just one question. Is marriage only about kids? Don't we have couples who cannot have children? I don't think its about the Mahaanta of a person. Mrs Iyer was wrong in hiding the truth but Subbu should have thought about it instead of just agreeing to his mother. It was a 12 year old relationship. He should have shared his insecurities with Ishita first then he could have taken a decision.


And whereas Subbu's mom is concerned,I dont have any sympathies for her and that's cos her notion of Infertility. Its shocking. She had the right to be angry. Agreed. She wanted a Waaris or whatever. Agreed. But calling Ishita a Baanjh/Apshagun and what not. This is horrible and unforgiving. She not leaving a chance to degrade or abuse Ishita and her family. Totally uncalled for.

In our forum we have always supported the right acts and criticised the wrong ones. People dont hate Subbu's mom for her breaking Subbu-Ishu's relationship but for the way she is. And nobody has bad mouthed subbu also. Its just sad that after 12 years of a beautiful relationship, he could not support the one he loved. He left her at a point where she needed him the most...more than her own family.

Ishita is not completely mahaan. She tends to be but she too has her own faults. Maybe compared to others, her actions are a bit more selfless. But no one in the show is completely positive.

Raman and Ishita will teach Ruhi to value things that matter. And if she loves a boy who cannot father then I think Ishita and Raman will support and guide her much better. In the end its the person in the relationship who has to decide. And trust me, Ishita and Raman will do much better than what Subbu's mom did.


I second you on that... Its not his decision but its the timing of that decision which is making it sound ruthless... Love is more than everything... Had that been true love, Subbu would have definitely supported her... Thinking practically is not a fault but others emotions must also be taken care of while resounding one's decision...

Had Raman been in the place of Subbu, he would have definitely accepted Ishita... Till date, Raman has never seen this as a weakness in Ishita...


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Subbu wasn't wrong breaking their marriage ...but he took d wrong way... Ishu's infertility prob came as much of a surprise / shock to Ishu, as to Subbu. & d way he just left her like we throw 'use n throw pens' ... He may not be willing to marry Ishu is understandable ... but abandon a girl, whom you claim to love, plan future together, at the time when she's in her most vulnerable phase of life, when she's totally devastated, WAS wrong.

Less humanity, more selfishness... which is wrong.

Had he taken his decision being lil more considerated towards Ishu, his friend, love for 12 yrs, he wouldn't have been wrong here.

Nice post btw.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bareta


Thats what i meant he was being normal human being who wants to lead normal life have kids.
He said its true i love ishita very much.
but i want kids. Isn't it good he knows what he wants with life?
I can think Subu wrong if i think he didnt do mahaan act.
Please help me to think abt him is wrong way.
Dont want to think him normal human being.
Please guys make me understand how he is wrong apart from being mahaan pyar janam janam ka saath.
Really need help.


Yep, thats totally acceptable. But then its just not your life. He was pratical and its all good. I dont hate his character. Its really not about being Mahaan. Nobody said he was wrong for choosing kids over Ishita. What I think was wrong is that Ishu bore the burnt in the end of it.

And if you ask me why dont I like him. Its because he never stopped his mom from insulting Ishita at the drop of the hat. He would not become mahaan if he did...he would still be human. We praised Raman when he saved shagun yesterday. We would have done the same if subbu had tried to change his mom's attitude towards Ishita.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bareta

As far as i have seen the serial.

subu left Ishita because she cannot be mother. It came suddenly to him.
I would have thought of him wrong if after knowing this and then falling in love for 12 years and then leaving ishu. I would have considered wrong if knowing this he married her and made her felt about her physical weakness on daily basis.
I think its normal human behavior.

If he would have married her then we can see his pyar is mahan.
But as of now he is normal human.

Isn't Madhavi aunty (ishu mom) wrong when she hide it from subu and family. and thought may be after marriage Ishita can become mother on her own. if even after marriage Ishu's pysical condition is same. what would madu aunty have done?She just wanted Ishu's happiness and wanted her to be married. that we can consider as normal.
But when Subu's mom wanted her son not to married infertile gal she is wrong.
Subu's mom is horrible on other matters. but here i find her normal.

The time Mihika and mihir's marriage isn't both the families denied relationship because of their dis likeness toward each other.
Didn't Tandon do the same with Neil?

So in yhm i feel every character is normal human being.
Except Ishita now a days at least who serial wallah showing some great person.

Will Raman and Ishu let marry Ruhi such boy who cannot be father?


Please let me know your thoughts .


Thought provoking topic...
Very nice

Yes every character is flawed to a certain extent, so its relateable and believable.
Ishita's as usual is more mahaan than others, all Kekta heroines are that way The moment they don that saree it comes with the fabric😉


I would like to see Ishita take wrong decisions in raising Ruhi. It would make her more real
They portray her currently as "Ms Know all Parent". I would like to see Raman be right about some thing. It makes a good balance and it creates good friction for us to enjoy😃
Moms are NOT ALWAYS right. Its a myth that has somehow been perpetuated by popular media, through sitcoms here in America and Desi soaps in India. Its not real.


Yes it would definitely be interesting to see IF Ruhi will be allowed to marry an impotent guy.

A "Desi Soap mother" raised child would probably say YES when confronted with the Q "Will you marry this guy who can never be a father?"
Its all about being IDEAL and mahaan on Desi TV. But IF the show leaps 20 years, which it will considering its an Ekta show, I hope to see Ruhi's own personality.

In real life though we all love to SEE mahaan things happen around us, and we all promote, champion and proselytize such ideas. Its hard to adopt in one's own life. Its easier said than done.The fact that such weddings or unions make front page news is because its not common place😃

On the show I personally LOVE the way Raman has handled this. Every time he has encountered her inability to conceive his reaction has been unbelievably humane

When he sees her crying under the stairwell after speaking with the adoption agency, he first taunts her, and is immediately SO TORN, he wants to reach out and comfort her

Second time, when Ruhi wants to know where babies come from... his expression is sombre and mature

Third time, outside the party, on the bench, when she asks him "WHY did you marry me knowing I cant conceive?" he is practically furious😳😳

Needless to say I am bowled over by KP's emoting👏



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Posted: 11 years ago
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What makes his decision wrong is not the act itself since you have rightly pointed out what could have been the repercussions of his marriage with Ishita. It was the way he went about it, he could have told Ishita he cannot marry her because he wants to have kids and biological ones at that.


Instead he choose to break all ties because his mom deemed her unfit for him and while doing so he didnt even face Ishita ONCE. He had his back to her even when he knew she was present in the room the whole time listening to his words. In that scene he even says he loves Ishita... he could have then afforded her the respect and courtesy for those 12 years instead of saying things like after marriage love fades away in a couple of years and two people stay together only for kids, if Ishita is unable to provide him a reason to stay long term why marry her.


He not only broke her heart he chose to make their relationship of over a decade almost a joke because of his words which is unforgivable.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bareta


Thats what i meant he was being normal human being who wants to lead normal life have kids.
He said its true i love ishita very much.
but i want kids. Isn't it good he knows what he wants with life?
I can think Subu wrong if i think he didnt do mahaan act.
Please help me to think abt him is wrong way.
Dont want to think him normal human being.
Please guys make me understand how he is wrong apart from being mahaan pyar janam janam ka saath.
Really need help.


What if he came to know about this after marriage? Think about it...

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