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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well, nice post Vy. It's only CVs can answer I guess. Cos, whatever the defenders will answer, will answer in his favor, whether they were in his situation or not. I sometimes defend Ishita cos, I can relate to her, I have experiences to meet persons like her. So, it's my experiences which say it all. But, most defenders in this forum dint experience (It's obvious from their talks, it's just assumptions) Raman's situations not also Ishita's situations, so how can they explain why Raman is doing it, why he dint do it etc. I don't find it logical.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ipkknd-ki-fan1

Aha! I've always defended Raman as much as I can but I do think it is quite unfair that he doesn't remember Ruhi's things as much.

I do agree that Ruhi was born at a time when he was going through trouble and wants to forget about it. But isn't Adi also related to that painful past? Is what I fail to understand.


But he does take care of Ruhi? I mean dancing for her, feeding Ishu for her and one of the major steps of his life - Marrying Ishita for Ruhi ke liye?

I honestly have no answers for you. But a question ..

Sorry .. Just taking out my mixed thoughts..

Ignore me 😆


Exactly @bold. Seeing, meeting and remembering Adi reminds him of Shagun automatically. That doesn't anger him. But, Ruhi's mole angered him as it reminds him of Shagun😆. Lolz...either I am dumb enough to understand his POV or he has no logical excuses for this.
And, point to be noted, good parents don't discriminate b/w child whatever the reason is. They don't love one child madly, and others like...taken for granted.
I have an uncle who loves both his sons equally. His elder son did a great mistake in his life, he was against him at that time...inspite he is his elder child. Now, when that son realized his mistakes, everything is normal like before. I can''t tell that there was any problem b/w these father-son two years ago.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ilovemyself98

raman does nt appreciate what he has got.he run after those who dont care for them.


when he was with shagun,he used to loveher too much becoz she was less interested in him.he even did nt behave properly with his caring parents becoz of her.he was just like doormate who respect ones who does nt value him.when shagun left him,he had ruhi.bt again instead of caring ruhi he was busy in proving shagun his worth & grieving for his son.
still he has got true life partner like ishita bt instead of paying attention to her ,he was busy in making shagun jealous,then insulting her,competing with moron ashok,
he was so guilty & sad for his son bt nt a bit of shame for his acts towards ruhi all those yrs.
so conclusion is he run after those ppl who treat him like doormate.

you put it perfectly

He has habit of running after things he does not have
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54
Same question were running in my mind??

One one why isitha became maahan???
I just need a valid ans...
Yesterday episode was worst episode of yhm..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well, seems like even if CVs planned Ishita to be standing there with Raman and Vandita in the conversation as per the precap, they may try to edit it seeing people's dislike about that. Our CVs are best at that😡.
But, I feel the convo started b/w Ishita and Vandita when she was coming from Iyer's house. And, Raman just interfered b/w them hearing sonography talk. Also he dint congratulate Vandu about this pregnancy. That's why he took this step to kill three birds in one stone.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: sobha

Same question were running in my mind??

One one why isitha became maahan???
I just need a valid ans...
Yesterday episode was worst episode of yhm..


About Ishita's being mahaan...see this post :
Can We Think bit Neutrally and Chill???

She dint actually become mahaan. If she was shown as mahaan, she could've taken the decision of geting Adi free by herself. She dint want to do that. But, she had to consider the effects on other as Adi is related to Bhalla family. That's why she talked with the mothers. She always cares for family. I honestly wants CVs to show once that Ishita losing her patience completely and leaves the Bhalla house not thinking about the family.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: DivAniTanni


What hero? He is a loser in life right now.
A father who discriminated b/w his children no matter whatever the reason, is not a hero.
A husband who keeps using his wife for his self interest, is not a hero.
A brother who can agree to send his lil bro to jail and not his own son for the same reason, is not a hero.
A SIL who claims that his inlaws is his own family, but when actually his own blood is involved, he forgets that, he is not a hero.

TBH, I don't want such a hero in my life. I'll rather hold hands of a man who doesn't act double minded and speaks whatever is in his mind right infront of me and others. I don't want a hero who defends me infront of others but mistreats me always as I am noone to him. I don't want a hero in my life who discriminates b/w his close and dear ones. I want a transparent minded person as my life partner, not a perplexed and grey person like Raman.



Dear it's Gud that u relate with Ishita coz u like her n I relate to Raman coz m selfish in real life ... I have goofed up too n act sometimes like n emotional fool ... I too have flaws ...although I don't disrespect anyone n m also like take me or leave me but I can't change so deal with it ...

Ok I m not defending all f ramans action but his attempts to save his son ... He was ready to send Parmeet Romi to jail for same mistake is coz they r adults they r responsible for their actions ... ( ya I know if it was shagun he will not send her in jail for his love) ...
Adi is a kid sending him to a juvenile centre will b traumatic ... He might turn to worse who knows... Whereas Parmeet n Romi might b able to live with this trauma ...

Now coming to point of trusting Ishita I know he shud b he doesn't coz he is still afraid that she might betray him ... Shagun betrayed him few years ago that made him think tht all women r like that ... N besides he n Ishita hv been married fr 3 months n theirs is n arranged marriage it will take some time for him to understand her !

Unconditional love for adi n negligence for Ruhi - I think only reason is He had beautiful memories with adi n painful with Ruhi... But still only looking at face of Ruhi anybody's heart will b melted she's so sweet ... But Raman is not like that he a still partial towards adi n running towards the guy who doesn't even acknowledge him as dad ... Whereas Ruhi made him dad in true sense.

I knw there r ppl who won't speak up their minds ... Raman can't even make up his mind ... Maybe he's a weak person n Ishu doesn't deserve him as she said but there r ppl like that in real life too n m defending him for the very reason...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mnr123



Dear it's Gud that u relate with Ishita coz u like her n I relate to Raman coz m selfish in real life ... I have goofed up too n act sometimes like n emotional fool ... I too have flaws ...although I don't disrespect anyone n m also like take me or leave me but I can't change so deal with it ...

Ok I m not defending all f ramans action but his attempts to save his son ... He was ready to send Parmeet Romi to jail for same mistake is coz they r adults they r responsible for their actions ... ( ya I know if it was shagun he will not send her in jail for his love) ...
Adi is a kid sending him to a juvenile centre will b traumatic ... He might turn to worse who knows... Whereas Parmeet n Romi might b able to live with this trauma ...

Now coming to point of trusting Ishita I know he shud b he doesn't coz he is still afraid that she might betray him ... Shagun betrayed him few years ago that made him think tht all women r like that ... N besides he n Ishita hv been married fr 3 months n theirs is n arranged marriage it will take some time for him to understand her !

Unconditional love for adi n negligence for Ruhi - I think only reason is He had beautiful memories with adi n painful with Ruhi... But still only looking at face of Ruhi anybody's heart will b melted she's so sweet ... But Raman is not like that he a still partial towards adi n running towards the guy who doesn't even acknowledge him as dad ... Whereas Ruhi made him dad in true sense.

I knw there r ppl who won't speak up their minds ... Raman can't even make up his mind ... Maybe he's a weak person n Ishu doesn't deserve him as she said but there r ppl like that in real life too n m defending him for the very reason...


Yeah...the way we are reacting is a bit dependent on our experiences. You are justifying Raman cos you are a bit like him in regarding selfishness. But, when you are talking about his Adi blind love, you are defending him. Cos, you dint say that you are a parent or you have gone through what Raman has. When, we are not in their places, how can we explain it the way? I will say he is really a bad father cos he remembers only Adi good memories, not Ruhi's. Tell you something, parents don't remember only one child's good memories whatever reason they have behind, except the child is not an illegal matter. Cos, I have experience of this also that whether a child gave a parent good memories or not, parent loves them equally. So, I can't actually justify Raman as I haven't seen anyone like him.
About trusting Ishita...he expects Ishita to trust him but he can't give her the trust she wants. What type of mentality is this? When Ishu herself said that he can trust her regarding Adi related matter and along with him we also have seen that Ishu generally thinks before doing anything. So, there's no need to trust her, being a smart person previously, he could at least use logic. And IshRa are married for 5 months...lots of time to understand someone if you are not so overwhelmed in your own thought and selfish motives.
Whatever...we are viewers. We will express what we are being showed and think. It's the responsibilities of CVs to show the right things if they believe that shows leave some effects on viewers and if they believe that their show is not for stupid viewers.
Edited by DivAniTanni - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well put👏👏
I always find ur posts logical and without being emotionally carried away with characters..

We dont know what is the context in which Mr. Raman is again doin adi-adi in front of Vandita and Ishita. May b it is related to some birth related discussions or sonography thing of Vandita's SECOND child.
Now, if it is so, Raman can easily talk about the birth related good memories of his SECOND child Ruhi. Mauka b nd dastur b ..like how news of ruhi coming gave him happiness (even though it could b jz in terms of his Adi bachha getting a siblin 😆 ), ,.BUT NO, still what he knows about child birth and all related memories is only limited to his favourite baccha- Addie Maddie😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: DivAniTanni


Yeah...the way we are reacting is a bit dependent on our experiences. You are justifying Raman cos you are a bit like him in regarding selfishness. But, when you are talking about his Adi blind love, you are justifying it. Cos, you dint say that you are a parent or you have gone through what Raman has. When, we are not in their places, how can we explain it the way? I will say he is really a bad father cos he remembers only Adi good memories, not Ruhi's. Tell you something, parents don't remember only one child's good memories whatever reason they have behind, except the child is not an illegal matter. Cos, I have experience of this also that whether a child gave a parent good memories or not, parent loves them equally. So, I can't actually justify Raman as I haven't seen anyone like him.
About trusting Ishita...he expects Ishita to trust him but he can't give her the trust she wants. What type of mentality is this? When Ishu herself said that he can trust her regarding Adi related matter and along with him we also have seen that Ishu generally thinks before doing anything. So, there's no need to trust her, being a smart person previously, he could at least use logic. And IshRa are married for 5 months...lots of time to understand someone if you are not so overwhelmed in your own thought and selfish motives.
Whatever...we are viewers. We will express what we are being showed and think. It's the responsibilities of CVs to show the right things if they believe that shows leave some effects on viewers and if they believe that their show is not for stupid viewers.



Yes Raman is wrong in running behind Adi under his blind love for his sonwhat u said is right ... But that's wht m telling he's wrong! But I guess cvs hv shown that he sends Adi to juvenile center in the end ... Maybe he's trying to mend his mistakes here ... Mayb if I was in his case n a parent n if my kid did tht accident even I wud've not been able to send my kid to jail not out of love but concern for their future ... I know m wrong here being a bad parent not instilling Gud values in my kid ( remember adi was not staying wid Raman here )but still juvenile centers r bad there r so many things happening there frm rapes to drugs n wht not ... I wud not like my kid in tht kind f a situation ...

N selfish ppl r like tht they want other persons trust but won't trust other ppl ... Hence he not trusting ishu

Don't get so worked up I hv defended Ishita too many a times although I cannot relate to her quickly forgiving manner but this time she is right whatever she has done so far ... Yeah Raman is a flawed person...

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