A sensible issue but poor portrayal...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I would like to present a different view of what was shown today...
After today's episode, i am tired of Raman... He is a confused soul. After understanding the fact that Ishu will take Raman's crap for Ruhi, he must be sensible rather than taking advantage of it...

But, cv's took a sensible issue today but they failed to project it properly... Ruhi who is in awe of her Ishu ma can accept the dance of Ishra. Also, she's immature to understand the meaning of relationships... I found Adi's reactions natural after that dance.

As a son, he must be shocked to see his father with his new wife... But, at that point, cv's messed it up. They must have projected a kid's trauma because of parent's divorce if they were keen about showing something. In original story also, Arjun became uncomfortable with Shagun and Ashok intimacy. Here, Adi fails to have a problem with Shashok... Here, the kid is having traits which is unimaginable... For him, hating his father is more important than all other feelings.

Raman going behind Adi was fine because what Adi saw today is something which he mustn't see. But, demeaning Ishu is unforgivable. She is not a doormat. Raman justifying is found in the book but there, he never spoke a word against her.

Story is unsettled. I am sure that no one can enjoy a dry story like custody where but for clash of emotions, nothing can be found. So, they introduced new characters and new cultural backgrounds. If it has been decided so, why to portray some sensible issues out of it and make mockery of the same...

I think Maiya must decide which way to go... her own style of drama, drama and drama forever or the fresh story which she promised us with the promo and initial episodes...

It'll be helpful for loyal viewers to decide whether to continue or not...



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Posted: 11 years ago
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To show a wrong turning into a right one has to show the wrong first and that's what the CV 's have showed... Raman has ill treated Ishita from the start, no matter what she has done for him... This is the wrong CV's have established so strongly ... The next that will be shown is this wrong turning into right... That is the Raman redemption track. I feel the story is going perfectly fine... I would be unhappy if the CV's show Raman treating Ishita insultingly and leave it at that, but we all know that Raman is going to realise his grave mistake that how wrong his behaviour has been... CV's are going to tackle this issue eventually that's for sure... Therefore I see no problem with the story!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Loveforlife

To show a wrong turning into a right one has to show the wrong first and that's what the CV 's have showed... Raman has ill treated Ishita from the start, no matter what she has done for him... This is the wrong CV's have established so strongly ... The next that will be shown is this wrong turning into right... That is the Raman redemption track. I feel the story is going perfectly fine... I would be unhappy if the CV's show Raman treating Ishita insultingly and leave it at that, but we all know that Raman is going to realise his grave mistake that how wrong his behaviour has been... CV's are going to tackle this issue eventually that's for sure... Therefore I see no problem with the story!


More than Raman, i am unconvinced with Adi. Atleast, they must know how he's comfortable with his mother and her BF if his dad's re-marriage makes him hate his father more...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hello there!

I completely agree with your point... I am not sure what the CV's are trying to prove with the Adi track, but if they are trying to show how children become affected from broken marriages, then I think they need to showcase it better.

They need to show a child's insecurity that develops from being in unstable homes, but I feel like Adi's character is too manipulative for a child and too much like a buddi-rooh! One of the things I liked about this episode is how Raman reassures Ruhi that Shagun and Adi did not leave her, they left him, Raman. A child needs that reassurance that they are still loved and cared for, despite broken families.

There is a very clear difference between Ruhi and Adi and it is so evident in the scenes that Raman shares with his children.

Adi - "Prove it, prove ki jiye ke woh aurat aap ke liye kuch bhi nahi hain"

Ruhi - "Aapko unhe gift de kar batana hoga, ki woh kitni important hain"

Both these kids come from unstable households, but I love how the CV's have shown that children can be taught to either enjoy the moments they have, or forego all joy and dwell in sorrow. So I guess we can give the creatives some kind of credit for showing how traumatic of an experience this can be for kids.

I agree, Raman should not have gone after Adi to explain himself. Raman needs to learn to chose his battles, some battles are just not worth fighting. Fighting for Adi will only take Raman AND his family in a spiral down, where redemption might as well be a needle in a hay stack.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: loveabletwinz

Hello there!

I completely agree with your point... I am not sure what the CV's are trying to prove with the Adi track, but if they are trying to show how children become affected from broken marriages, then I think they need to showcase it better.

They need to show a child's insecurity that develops from being in unstable homes, but I feel like Adi's character is too manipulative for a child and too much like a buddi-rooh! One of the things I liked about this episode is how Raman reassures Ruhi that Shagun and Adi did not leave her, they left him, Raman. A child needs that reassurance that they are still loved and cared for, despite broken families.

There is a very clear difference between Ruhi and Adi and it is so evident in the scenes that Raman shares with his children.

Adi - "Prove it, prove ki jiye ke woh aurat aap ke liye kuch bhi nahi hain"

Ruhi - "Aapko unhe gift de kar batana hoga, ki woh kitni important hain"

Both these kids come from unstable households, but I love how the CV's have shown that children can be taught to either enjoy the moments they have, or forego all joy and dwell in sorrow. So I guess we can give the creatives some kind of credit for showing how traumatic of an experience this can be for kids.

I agree, Raman should not have gone after Adi to explain himself. Raman needs to learn to chose his battles, some battles are just not worth fighting. Fighting for Adi will only take Raman AND his family in a spiral down, where redemption might as well be a needle in a hay stack.


Lovely comment... Ya, Ruhi is a angel in the life of Raman. He needs to understand the fact before it becomes too late.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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As a son, he must be shocked to see his father with his new wife..

The thing is i do NOT see him as a kid who is 'shocked' by things . Why would he be shocked when his own mom is in a live in relationship with a man , not even married by Indian standards which is a big thing . He seems to enjoy the company of his mom's paramour . The way he was insisting on the latest version of video games on his birthday and bhaang in holi , the way he gets along fine with Ashok brings across Adi as a shrug shrug pre teen of today who accepts divorces , live in relationships as a part of life . When he can accept his mother factually and not condemn her puritanically as living in sin , why would he expect his divorced dad whom he does not even like to remain unmarried for life . And i want someone to ask him this .

No , i think his 'shock' is over hyped . He is simply a spoilt rude kid , bordering on bad , who walks over the adults who let him . What he needs is firm refusals and less importance . Once he understands he cannot walk over he will become straight . He should not be allowed to play the victim by hyping or understanding any 'shock' . His mother who is in a live in relation ship with Ashok has taken away any 'shocks' .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Important issue raised in this post.

That Aditya is angry is justified. That his anger is directed against his father, thanks to Apshagun constantly doing everything they can to direct Adi's anger against Raman is also justified. That Adi is shallow and materialistic like his caregivers is also valid.

What makes no sense whatsoever is Adi's resentment against Raman's remarriage. It is not that the father and son had some kind of relationship before Raman's second marriage. Far from having visitation rights, Raman had a restraining order with strict instructions not to be in the vicinity of his son. Therefore, how can Adi be angry about being betrayed by an absent Raman and a non-existent Ishita? It would have been more realistic for Adi to harbor feelings of resentment against Raman for abandoning him. And, like you point out, if Adi is uncomfortable with intimacy of adults due to his awkward age, he should be equally uncomfortable with Ashok and Shagun. I wish that the CVs rectify this error, before they make Adi's hatred for Ishu a reason for separating them in the near future.


This is a ghisa-pita (well worn) way for the plot to move forward. I wish that the CVs could be a little more innovative. For example, Ishitia and Adi could have met accidentally somewhere and befriended each other before either knew who the other was.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

As a son, he must be shocked to see his father with his new wife..


The thing is i do NOT see him as a kid who is 'shocked' by things . Why would he be shocked when his own mom is in a live in relationship with a man , not even married by Indian standards which is a big thing . He seems to enjoy the company of his mom's paramour . The way he was insisting on the latest version of video games on his birthday and bhaang in holi , the way he gets along fine with Ashok brings across Adi as a shrug shrug pre teen of today who accepts divorces , live in relationships as a part of life . When he can accept his mother factually and not condemn her puritanically as living in sin , why would he expect his divorced dad whom he does not even like to remain unmarried for life . And i want someone to ask him this .

No , i think his 'shock' is over hyped . He is simply a spoilt rude kid , bordering on bad , who walks over the adults who let him . What he needs is firm refusals and less importance . Once he understands he cannot walk over he will become straight . He should not be allowed to play the victim by hyping or understanding any 'shock' . His mother who is in a live in relation ship with Ashok has taken away any 'shocks' .


Exactly...it is my question... When he is least bothered about the reality before his eyes, how can he ask that question to his dad...

After that dance, the reaction of Adi... it felt as though they wanted to show the shock and disbelief on his face...

Actually, it is becoming difficult to catch the message cv's are trying to give us...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aimf

Important issue raised in this post.

That Aditya is angry is justified. That his anger is directed against his father, thanks to Apshagun constantly doing everything they can to direct Adi's anger against Raman is also justified. That Adi is shallow and materialistic like his caregivers is also valid.

What makes no sense whatsoever is Adi's resentment against Raman's remarriage. It is not that the father and son had some kind of relationship before Raman's second marriage. Far from having visitation rights, Raman had a restraining order with strict instructions not to be in the vicinity of his son. Therefore, how can Adi be angry about being betrayed by an absent Raman and a non-existent Ishita? It would have been more realistic for Adi to harbor feelings of resentment against Raman for abandoning him. And, like you point out, if Adi is uncomfortable with intimacy of adults due to his awkward age, he should be equally uncomfortable with Ashok and Shagun. I wish that the CVs rectify this error, before they make Adi's hatred for Ishu a reason for separating them in the near future.


This is a ghisa-pita (well worn) way for the plot to move forward. I wish that the CVs could be a little more innovative. For example, Ishitia and Adi could have met accidentally somewhere and befriended each other before either knew who the other was.



@bold...I expected that twist... But, it turned out to be a typical Maiya's show with dumb twists...


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Posted: 11 years ago
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nice post.may be cvs trying to portray tat both father-son r same too innocent souls with water personalities gets easily manipulated n sees only up to where their vision can go lol with in soap limits in soapy style lol.

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