Does cheating have redemption?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I have a curious question. A lot of us have talked about Fateh and his proper redemption etc, but, my question is, does cheating on your partner actually have any sort of redemption? Cheating is a choice, never a mistake so does it really have redemption? If so, what form of redemption are we talking about? Thoughts on this please.



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Posted: 4 years ago
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I don't think Fateh's redemption should be related to Tejo ,it should be for his own character development.

Cheating is a choice, i totally agree. I understand if he could not get over Jasmine and started cheating on tejo ,But if he cared about Tejo even as a friend and felt he was wrong for even a second, he should have told Tejo he was cheating on her , he was nothing but a coward.

Using both Tejo and Jasmine and also assuming Tejo was cheating on him, just so he could feel less guilty?! I know jasmine didn't mean well but whenever she told Fateh to tell Tejo about jasfa he always brushed her off.

I think he will be a better person now, but if i was in Tejo's place I would forgive him, for my own mental sanity but never take him back and move on.

Edited by thunderbird - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Cheating is a choice and since cheating doesn't leave any physical mark it's still not termed as crime and is not punishable by law. But does that make it any less an offsence?then no. It actually Robs the partner of their confidence, self worth,ability to trust self and others and respect. It can take lifetime before getting these things back or not


Many a times partners accept the partner if he/she apologized or for below reasons in majority cases

1. Children are involved. They don't want their child to choose or loose a parent

2. Financial stability or independence

3. Societal or family pressure or no family support

4. Sense of security. If a single woman stays alone she might be considered as easy meat after she is been cheated on by husband

5. ONS under questionable circumstances like under the influence or something


I am not sure how much love or trust is there after te relationship again starts. Personally I won't be able to accept a cheater as I will never be able to trust that person.


Now in this serials case, Fateh has realised his mistakes, trying to understand the pain others got and sure he can build his life and be a better person and he deserves that but whether Fatejo should be together I am not convinced at all


Tejo has known Fateh for 2 months before their marriage, out of 6 months of their marriage he was cheating for almost 5 months.When things were not going his way he gaslighted her, assumed she is of less character to feel good about himself. Tejo didn't know this initially so sure she fell in love but looking bk she should relate all these things and understand how he treated her and then decide what should be her stand. A relationship doesn't survive only with love and lac of respect and trust. On the other hand a relationship having respect,trust and honesty cn survive beautifully even without so called love.


I am not getting that clip of new dhadkan serial dialogue. "Pyaar ki baat nahi, baat respect ki hai"

Edited by Ashviniv - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Cheating is a choice. You're absolutely right there. But so is everything else in our lives.

People have very hard and fast judgment on cheating, because it's an emotional issue. Anyone who has been cheated, knows what kind of damage it does, and just how much it hurts. It wrecks you. So, immediately there's this harsh judgment passed down.

However, like everything, every issue can be awfully complicated and complex. One answer can never ever be suitable for everything.

If you believe in redemption, second choices, then the answer is yes. I believe redemption is entirely possible because I believe people can change. There are way more heinous offenses than cheating, and people change after that.

I'd like to talk about two things, redemption and forgiveness.

First, is an individual's effort. You realise your mistakes, you accept them, and you work on them. As simple as it sounds, most people can't do it. This is why mostly people never accept they are wrong. IT's the hardest part, and if someone does this, then they have redeemed themselves.

Second, forgiveness. A person redeems themselves, and then apologizes. What then? Their redemption's true test. If you think you deserve forgiveness, you are still a piece of shit. You have to acknowledge that people got hurt because of you, and they have the right to hate you forever. You do not deserve their forgiveness. If they forgive you, wonderful. But it's their choice at the end of the day.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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When i started watching this show i shipped Fatejo. After the EMA and the weak tejo and short fateh's redemption with sudden kvg butchering, i lost interest.


I don't know why but i find tejo written as a hypocrate . Say something else does something else. At least jasmin stick to what she says. No matter how evil she is, she stands strong. The one who was shown dependent is more independent now and the one showed independent , strong with full of self respect has become weak and dependent on others for emotional support.

The turnaround of characters. That's what the writers been doing all the while


The members who are happy with their reunion are cheering up in the forum when they used to bash fateh for the EMA but now are willing to ship them again.

That's their choice . No problem in that. Everyone has their liking.

But i have a question in mind

What if they went through what tejo did, will they still accept fateh in the first place??? They bash kvg like no body's business stating fateh is hotter and more charming . Will they return to their hot husband after his EMA with their own sister??


When i look at it . Wow , just wow.

There is so much difference in fiction and reality.


Only women who actually go through this knows the pain and sufferings. They won't only have sweet memories but more bitter memories of the. betrayal.


Here a strong independent woman is having sweet memories of her cheater ex and still rooting for him after all that happened between them forgetting her big talks of self respect.


The truth is itvs made a mockery of women's emotions and self respect.


Now i will watch to see how they reunite fatejo. If they give a good story i will carry on watching otherwise gonna drop it. There are other new serials coming.


I don't think they will be able to keep up with trps that long without a strong plot just with major twists and turns .

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Posted: 4 years ago
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No. It doesn't have any redemption unless the partner cheated upon lacks self-respect and is unable to move on from the relationship.

I am suprised at makers for calling this a youth show though. No matter how redeemed or saint like a character becomes you can't justify his cheating. He made a clear choice to be with Jasmine even after knowing her true colors. Being a cheater Fateh himself could not control his anger and wanted to leave India within a week or two when he mistook Tejo-buzo for having an affair. I thought Tejo would be a character which I can root for when I saw her holding a gun in her hand. Look at her now she is unable to move on from this mess.

But knowing that they will reunite her with her redeemed cheater ex-husband is too regressive. I liked BV Season 1 telecasted in same channel years back for showing that woman can move on, fall in love again and become successful. I have no idea what message they are planning to give


Fun fact Ankit had a cameo in BV. He played a doctor there if I am not wrong. He worked so hard to get to this point.He deserves every applause that comes his way for his portrayal of Fateh.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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i dont believe love happens only once. thats a myth tbh. you can fall in love multiple times.


just because you love someone you cannot ignore their mistakes or sins which can lead you to heartbreaks and sadness and pain again and again.


Cheating robs you of your self confidence and ability to trust. you will always think 'was i not good enough' just saying sorry and apology can get one's confidence back? also what is a guarantee that the person wont cheat again.


Plus the relationship wont be an organic one like before,it will have lost its charm


'Gath agar pad jaaye to phir rishte ho ya dori, laakh kare koshish khulane ko waqt to lagta hai'

Edited by Ashviniv - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Like Angad said "Fateh ka kuch bharosa nahi, vo kuch bhi kar sakta hai"

i don't think anyone in real life would have been able to accept/trust him again but this ITV they forget everything within 2 -3 days max.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Hmmm if i had been Tejo then first thing I am not sure whether I have fallen for a guy this soon whom I have seen been crazily in love with my little sister for more than 2 years. But even if shit happened and I fell for him then I wouldn't have stayed under the same roof with that person after I have known he is cheating on me with my sister and that too for majority of my married life. Family pressure not withstanding


I am a person who gives multiple chances to people but if I reach my limit I can never forgive or forget. I would rather not see or be in touch with that person ever again but if I am forced too then I maintain bare minimum contact.


@chir-cute - sorry to hear about your heartbreak and kudos to you being strong. It wouldn't have been easy journey I am sure. Love to you ❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: thunderbird

Like Angad said "Fateh ka kuch bharosa nahi, vo kuch bhi kar sakta hai"

i don't think anyone in real life would have been able to accept/trust him again but this ITV they forget everything within 2 -3 days max.


They think fatejo are their trp fetchers.

Wait at least two weeks after KVG exit then u can see the trp blunders if they don't buckle up on the story

The leads alone won't help . They need to bring interesting plots

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