Does Jasmine understand her position in the household ??? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Indira1211

exactly..I’m also shocked because it’s promoting women oppression…so basically a girl child is inferior to a boy child…it’s also so stupid..because the sex of a child is determined by the father..as the sperm carries the X or Y chromosome that determines sex of a child..so how can it be law that a man can marry another woman to get a male child when he is the one who is responsible for the sex of a child 🤷🏻‍♀️. I can understand if it applied only to Muslim people as there is some religious reason why Muslim men are allowed to marry multiple times..I’m not sure of the exact reason..as I’m not Muslim…but I thought it was more of a responsibility thing…to take care of the women..I could be wrong…but either way I don't understand why these big social organisations are not making an uproar about this …🤷🏻‍♀️

I am not a muslim but i grew up in a muslim country so i have a brief idea about it. Polygamy is not due to religious reasons, it's just that the religion permits and allows it once again under certain circumstances and that even with the permission of the first wife, I dont think it's something that's actually encouraged. If the first wife or existing wives disagree then the husband can't get married to another woman otherwise you would find polygamy in every other muslim household. Their reasoning is if the prophet could do it then so can they like how some hindu men complain if Krishna can have 16000 wives then why not them as well?

Originally posted by: Bluekohl

Lol it's legal the same way marital rape is legal in India. BTW who told you that India, is about equality? Have you read the history of these laws? Or even the current judgements of HC/SC? Rapists are acquitted because the victim was their GF. Husband forcing himself on wife isn't a crime. We're one of the very few countries where marital rape isn't recognised as a crime. Women oppression is a part of our society, and culture. I know, it sucks.

Originally posted by: DaffodilsNew

Yep it is.

I dont understand how whether a woman can bear a child or not / a male child or not .....how does that become a ground for a second marriage ??? How is it even legal ? You can always adopt if you cant hv children . And this is gender bias. Its promoting gender bias. Its appalling that suc laws exist in today's times.

They don't have to promote gender bias in a society where it is already quite prevalent, they are just depicting the facts as it is which deserves appreciation.

You ask how not being able to have children or a son becomes a basis for being allowed have another wife, well we live in a patriarchal society where daughters are viewed as temporary guests and an economic burden, so why wouldn't any family desire a boy instead of a girl?

Even when a girl is educated she is married off immediately, and once that happens she moves out of the house and rarely visit her parental home or contribute to its finances, take a look at anupama itself, she is now gaining financial independence but the responsibility of her parental house has been given to her brother while she cares more about her sasuraal as that is apparently her 'true family', it's all about social security. As long as we live in a patriarchal joint family system where daughter is expected to move into her husbands house and join his family instead of a system where both the husband and wife move out of their parental homes, there will always be a gender bias.

Originally posted by: Rein123

It does apply to them and it is legal, when muslims are openly allowed to practice polygamy why would the law stop hindu men from going ahead with bigamy? If the law has a problem with it then just impose the UCC all over the country but they haven't done that yet so yes this is the law in India even in 2021, bigamy and polygamy is banned for hindus in most parts of India except Goa and the west coast, the funny thing though is that muslims here are not allowed to indulge in polgamous marriages but hindu men can have two wives for reasons permitted by the law. She didn't ask Suresh to divorce Nima to legalise her marriage, her marriage is already legal, the reason she told him to divorce her was because she didn't like being labelled as the second wife and can't tolerate his attachment to the first wife. The intention behind filing for divorce is to ensure that suresh completely cut off his ties with Nima not to legalise his marriage with tulika or because she is considered his mistress, tulika is his wife only and her marriage is already legal as they have registered it in the family court as well and got married infront of everyone, if that were the case then don't you think the MIL would have directly asked him to divorce her first?

Bigamy is legal here for hindu men under the circumstances permitted by the law itself, google it in case you don't believe me. There was a show called ghar ki lakshmi betiyaan where the same thing happened where the father married another woman just because his first wife couldn't bear a son.

Originally posted by: Indira1211

this is so sad. I live overseas..where there are big drives to empower women and get women equality in all areas..🤷🏻‍♀️

Yep, human rights depend on where you live in our world. Some lives are seen lesser than others. The thing is Indians have genuinely no idea how bad things are for marginalized groups because we've weird conspiracies that apparently just everyone wants to malign India's reputation. This year, India's rank in gender equality index, is 140/156.

Originally posted by: Indira1211

Nima lives in Mumbai so is bigamy legal there was well ?

Mumbai falls in the west coast now doesn't it? And she is married to a local on top of it, plus both the women are aware of the situation so yes it's apparently legal.

Originally posted by: Rein123

Mumbai falls in the west coast now doesn't it? And she is married to a local on top of it, plus both the women are aware of the situation so yes it's apparently legal.

Originally posted by: Indira1211

ok…sorry I don’t live in India so wasn’t aware of these laws..,I’m just disappointed that India is progressing so much in other areas And yet these biases against women still exist… but I still find the reason for men to divorce their wives or remarry or acquire second wives just to get a male child really should be thrown out and found unacceptable as men are responsible for the sex of the baby 🤦🏻‍♀️

It's easy for you to say that not having a male child as a reason be thrown out of the window since you don't seem to understand main reason for why such mindset prevails to begin with, it simple, it's all about money and social security.

In western developed countries people don't care much whether they get a boy or girl anymore as they they are coming out of the joint family system which if you ask me is the main root cause of the problem. Over there whether you have a son or daughter both of them move out once they become adults so there is no expectation or galat fehmi that having a son means that he would be your support during the old age or the daughter will be an economic liability where you have to spend a huge amount of money on her dowry and wedding as at the end of the day both of them leave you once they get married off. There I guess the bride and groom manage most of the expenses of the wedding themselves.

How many educated women india still continue to work post their marriage and support the parental home?? Not many right? In a country where you have no social security or any sort of financial assistance from the government after your retirement what do you really expect? In a way we women have done this to ourselves. Earlier I could understand girls were not sent to school or educated much, but today what is stopping women from continuing to work and contribute as a member of the workforce? Do you know that the workforce participation percentage or rate of women in India is very low almost comparable to that of KSA or Pakistan's, so why wouldn't such biases exist? What I said may sound harsh but it is the truth which needs to be addressed, once this is done the bias will automatically be taken care of.

Originally posted by: Indira1211

this is so sad. I live overseas..where there are big drives to empower women and get women equality in all areas..🤷🏻‍♀️

I’m disgusted that these laws exist in Goa, but why is rangu making shows on it

to spread awareness ?, I Doubt it.

These laws should not excuse its 2021

When will India move up the scale

Originally posted by: Rein123

It's easy for you to say that not having a male child as a reason be thrown out of the window since you don't seem to understand main reason for why such mindset prevails to begin with, it simple, it's all about money and social security.

In western developed countries people don't care much whether they get a boy or girl anymore as they they are coming out of the joint family system which if you ask me is the main root cause of the problem. Over there whether you have a son or daughter both of them move out once they become adults so there is no expectation or galat fehmi that having a son means that he would be your support during the old age or the daughter will be an economic liability where you have to spend a huge amount of money on her dowry and wedding as at the end of the day both of them leave you once they get married off. There I guess the bride and groom manage most of the expenses of the wedding themselves.

How many educated women india still continue to work post their marriage and support the parental home?? Not many right? In a country where you have no social security or any sort of financial assistance from the government after your retirement what do you really expect? In a way we women have done this to ourselves. Earlier I could understand girls were not sent to school or educated much, but today what is stopping women from continuing to work and contribute as a member of the workforce? Do you know that the workforce participation percentage or rate of women in India is very low almost comparable to that of KSA or Pakistan's, so why wouldn't such biases exist? What I said may sound harsh but it is the truth which needs to be addressed, once this is done the bias will automatically be taken care of.

I’m a girl and I support my parents in their old age, we live in Canada and I do have 2 brother but guess who stayed behind, me! The girl.

Even when I get married I’m keeping all these responsibilities in-fact I called off my wedding in 2017
Because the expectations from my former in-laws were to drop all these responsibilities and focus on them

not happening.

I was also expected to change my last name post marriage

not happening either.

Why should I drop my identity? It’s my ancestral name if a man isn’t dropping it for me why should I drop for him!!