Suraj, Imli, Baccha & Black Spot. - Page 3

Originally posted by: ipkrr

Aradhana - first of all - thanks much for jumping to clarify! You are such a sweetheart!...Love you more with each passing day ❤️🤗

Nimmi - so sorry that I upset you. Aradhana clarified it spot on - it was not personal at all...this is what happens when you type up a reply on your phone while standing in line in the cafeteria at work.

It was meant to be a generic maybe one can - and not specifically you.

Actually I've been pretty excited for your entrance in the forum...specifically at a time when the forum was kind of dead... you've managed to rouse up a fair amount of excitement...with your insightful posts. So keep your posts coming...there's nothing I enjoy more than a rational debate.

Also I most definitely am in the minority with my views on the story to date - and could very well turn out to be wrong with my take. But this is what I get from watching the show and the forum is just a place to share my thoughts.

Originally posted by: Banjaaran.

apologies once again priya for my over reaction.
hey you were a part of swaragini forum too right. though our povs differed since i am an out and out sanskaar'ian i loved reading your thoughts.

thank you so much for your lovely words for me.
really sweet of you.
oh i love debates. the bouncing of ideas in all shapes, sizes and hues around.

i now am suddenly thankful that i boarded the ship late and ended up missing the turbulent waters to large extent. my bubble is still pink and frothy for now😆.

thank you for your insight about the equations and other side.
infact thank you everyone who has posted here. you gave a new perspective.
may be i should go back and watch the scenes again to get a better idea but oh well you heard that wailing.. that's my antaraatma shrieking in protest. nopes don't want to do that.
the prospect of being acquainted with imli, suraj and baccha and rape attempt scenarios is just about as tempting as a zit on my nose.
i'll pass.

will read your thoughts about the same and be enlightened.
so big big thank you for sharing all your thoughts.❤️.

no hard feelings i hope priya. really happy to get acquainted with you.

Originally posted by: ipkrr

thanks nimmi! Glad its sorted out! thanks for understanding!

yes - i've watched 5 shows to date - iss pyaar ko rangrasiya bairi piya swaragini and now udaan - iss pyaar ko and bairi piya - I watched them after they were off air. Enjoyed IPK - tho it was extremely painful to see a silly Khushi - there was some magic in that show - and it introduced me to hindi shows. love love loved the thakur in bairi piya. RR - loved Rudra Paro chemistry - but the show could not sustain viewership. Swaragini I gave up once it was apparent Sanskaar and Swara were the final pairing! I had a soft corner for Laksh.😳

udaan is my 5th show and as you can see I like shows with a certain kind of male lead - even tho in real life I would say i have very feminist tendencies...I have not figured why tho...why i actually enjoy watching this type of person in reel life. It's a mystery...but i see other rational folks in the same boat - I'm glad its not uncommon.

Also as with Swaragini - my track record for guessing outcomes has not been very good. i'm thrilled to bits you remember me tho - I was there in the forum for a limited time. 🤗

Originally posted by: ipkrr

since your analysis skills are exemplary - let me give you some points i struggle with ad maybe if you decide to go back and watch some of these episodes - you can share your pov.

1. who did suraj admire on the day of the sangeet?

2. who did suraj come to see the day before the sangeet -late at night in his jeep?

3. who did suraj look to save when he took the bullet?

4. the episode when suraj and chakor met - he goes all silent and his expression when he sees her for the first time is really something. it's my fav scene to date. she shook him up that day.

5. can you really obsess over being attracted to the sister of the girl you supposedly loved?

6. can you be as stupid as to let your supposed love marry your brother with no twinge of regret and post marriage use her as the pawn to get her sister to stay with him

7. Suraj has denied love for Imli - several times when it was raised - and vehemently too. Could he really be so dense...in one episode he even asks Chakor - will i not know whom i love?

8. There is no single scene other than consumation scene where Suraj shows any physical attraction for Imli...there are plent for Chakor

9. He decides to get married to Tina as soon as Vivaan Chakor's marriage is fixed.

10. on attempted first night he did not even glance at imli when she brings chakor in and was all excited about consumating the relationship with Chakor

11. next day morning gulab dialog - can you really love one sis and be physically so attracted to the other. he brushes imli off like an annoying gnat

12. he did not even care when imli's plight regarding the baby was made public...he told Chakor on several times - Imli was not his concern. he initially did not even remember the baby could be his

13. happily sent her with cops for questioning without blinking - in the process of threatening chakor

14. have never seen hair flying between suraj and Imli 😊

15. He constantly referred to the marriage as 7 janam wala one - until the rape attempt

16. is Suraj so terrible that he can love imli and attempt rape on her sister?

Also - if all of above is wrong and he truly loved imli - why did not the cvs when they showed Suraj Imli bacha track - close the loop on each of these puzzling scenes...they could have established he took the bullet for her - was outside their house at nite in jeep for her...all those unexplained scenes would have validated his love for her...the fact that its still unaddressed and there is still an element of unresolved things - gives me hope OR maybe the CVs are just shoddy or changed the story with no concern for integrity of characterisation.

I'll also provide the flip argument.

1. He saved Imli over Chakor during bomb blast. it appeared he took the bullet for her as well.

2. during the acrobatic scene - as you said he did not try to save Chakor over imli

3. he self-confessed love for imli and we had that filmi proposal

4. tried to dispose of Chakor in a hurry - wanted to get her vivaan

5. appeared really possessive of imli when she was with vivaan

6. even during the day after the marriage scene - imli affected suraj - when she said -didi aapko suraj babu ke saath shadi mubarak.

7. always compares Chakor to Imli

8. willing to drive off with imli and give her love after the miscaariage.

I'm sure there are many more inconsistencies..after typing these all out I'm more confused than ever.

Originally posted by: Aradh_27

Wanted to add something.

The spoiler that Suraj would end up married to Chakor although he'd "be paired" opposite Imli initially, came out waaay back, around the time VJ was cast.

Also I'm not too sure about this, maybe the resident VJ expert on the forum, Radhika can help me out here, but VJ was the first actor to be cast post-leap and a bigger fuss was made about his casting than anyone else's. Which makes me think they were pretty keen to have him on board. So obviously they were going to give him a meaty role. He couldn't have played subordinate villain throughout 'cos they weren't going to chuck out Sai Ballal at any cost.

Also why get in the conventionally attractive guy who was known for mainly being a romantic hero in the villain's role and the mytho kid for the ML?! Obviously to get the audience to pick Suraj over Vivaan, despite how diabolical the former's deeds were.

And apparently VJ chose to play Suraj. May be he did or may be they did a really good job of selling the idea of Suraj to him, like how they've succeeded in making all of us like him.

So I feel SuKor was planned right at the beginning of the leap. Or maybe even at the beginning of the show itself. 'Cos what sounds more dramatic? Chakor marrying KNR's nephew or his only son?

And they named the character Suraj! Why bother to contrast his name with Chakor's if the plan was to make him some second rate villain?