My View on YuVi and RB Scenes of Drunk Episodes

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Mages

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Posted: 16 years ago

you know what guys i have read everyone post and you guys hating RB and what RB forgot his promise and all those bad stuff about RB and some about YuVi.....

but honestly i saw both the episodes tdy and yesterdays....i am not supporting anyone or favourism or anything else....i am just telling my heart out of human relationship.....now i am not a Yug fan nor a YuVi fan or RajBir fan writing now i am just Mages aka Leela writing out my heart out.....

Yug's Side

well i agree and its good that he have heard rajbir confession of love to vrinda as this will make him think some other way to bring back vrinda to him without rajbir's so called help....and his way of getting angry is fine too and as a human how will you feel another person love your girlfriend it hurts simply hurts thats what yug shown tdy and its really justified i could really relate to his feelings totally....

but in reality its really wrong for him to want another man's wife to get back to him just because she is his ex-flame and he loves her infact he should try to move on and advice her to carry on with her life as marriage relationship is very important than anyhting else....and he should try and forget vrinda and move on in life...thats reality but since this is a show nothing can be expected

Rajbir's Side

now everyone pouring out your venom on this man but as for me i really feel bad and pity about this man because of YuVi his whole life is just ruined....what must he have thought about his married life and his wife he had dreamt too for a happy and successful about his married life but all dreams is shattered and broken just because of YuVi...everyone is angry that he have confess his love to vrinda but i felt its nothing wrong although Rajbir-Vrinda says to themselves its a temporary marriage or some say its a fake marriage but in real they did got married to each other and those sindoor...mangal sutra and saat pheres they performed in their marriage rituals is not fake or temporary but real and pure but vrinda made a joke out of the whole rituals and also rajbir's life....with that rights what rajbir confess to vrinda is not wrong anyone can fall in love.....love has no limits and noone knows when it will happen....thats how YuVi fall in love and thats how rajbir fall in love with vrinda....it doesn't come with right or wrong it just happens....and i feel that there is nothing wrong of rajbir to fall in love with vrinda....he falls in love with his own wife what's wrong in that....there are people in the world after marriage falls in love with each other and also some the husband falls in love with the wife but the wife not yet and some who love their ex-gf or bf even after marriage and some with age differences..religion differences... and also KANK the movie way too....love happens in all ways...if yug can love vrinda even after her marriage then its not wrong of rajbir to fall in love

yes he did tell vrinda that he loves her and he feels that yug is stealing her from him and wants her not to go away from him in his drunken state but he never said to vrinda that he wants to break his promise and will never let her go to yug he just confess his love thats it...in the end its vrinda's choice whom she loves her ex-boyfriend or her husband.....even in his drunken state he tells yug that once he have given his promise he will do so and he will let vrinda go to yug.....everybody has misintepreted the whole scenario because everyone watch with the love of Yug and YuVi and i saw with a humanity that day without pouring my love for Yug and YuVi....

i felt so bad when rajbir tells yug that when vrinda goes back to him both of them will be happy and vrinda happiness is yug...as for the family at first they will be angry and then they will be alright since they always want their children happiness...in a way rajbir is right....and when he say what about him what will happen to him and how will he face the family when his own family will ask him what have happeneed why did he send vrinda to yug how will he answer them and how will he hide his pain and what will the world thinks about him....now that part both YuVi never thought about it...that they are not only giving pain to one man but a whole family.....

and then in the room when vrinda say what are they going to do now which rajbir tells her in his drunken state that what to do when he himself have no clue what to do thats why he is drunk...and also he says to her not to think because what we think doesn't happen at all

rajbir his ownself is so confused what to do and what not to do.....he has to answer so many questions to everyone his family...and to the world....

sometimes yaar we should see a character from humanity rather than someone's fan than could see what is happening....many of us have really misunderstand the whole drunken scenes of rajbir and his confession....

Vrinda's Side

this women is always confused....i have no words to describe her at all....she was confused when she was in love with yug in the olden times and now with rajbir too she is so confused.....its like i am having headache to understand her feelings....i really don't know what she wants in her life....all she did was ruining 2 mens life and make a joke of all her marriage rituals

yes i want YuVi to unite and Yug to become his oldself but not by breaking some innocent hearts.....i want YuVi to unite with everyone's smiling and blessing including rajbir and his family....because no matter how true YuVi love even if they unite it will not succed because they have break so many hearts so i want everyone to give YuVi blessing with millions of happiness

in this whole triangle....i would just want to blame vrinda for all this mess...if before her marriage she have told rajbir about YuVi's love than he would have stopped the wedding but no this girl had to confess the truth on her wedding night.....she really had ruined rajbir's life...he dreamt a good wife and life but all shattered because of her one mistake.....

and now she is going to hurt yug....god knows what she wants in her life....

i think the best way is YuVi themselves own up to the family that they still love each other and still wants to be together in this way the family will understand because i am sure that rajbir will put some advice to the family to unite YuVi as he only wants vrinda's happiness and he very well knows that her happiness lies in yug...in that way all 3 families happy....rajbir divorces vrinda and YuVi unites and marry each other and rajbir can even fall in love with bharti....but first of all rajbir should go for a makeover...seriously i am dying to see sandeep(rajbir) oldself....when he was in KSKBT as Handsome Saahil Virani and in KAA as Handsome Prateek

in reality i feel the only saint person is Rajbir...if you see it in reality what he told vrinda in his drunken state is right and what YuVi doing is wrong as they are not respecting the rituals of marriage

if i see as a show then i will say...i really don't know what is going on all i know is i am totally confused and this is the worst show i have ever seen.....i am really missing the old golden days of YuVi....

in the golden days YuVi chemistry brings chiils all over my spine but nowadays i never really feel YuVi chemistry at all.....it really faded away for me....because the whole show is ruined and is not going the way i expected which is YuVi love to the eternal....as for Rajbir-Vrinda i feel is nice that is because of sandeep's fantastic and outstanding performance from vrinda side no chemistry at all...but i could see a friendship in them....Yug-Bharti its ok ok chemistry for me....but i want to see Rajbir going to Bharti because i feel they can have a great chemistry provided rajbir goes for makeover and becomes all handsome.....

i hope i am not offended anyone....its just my point of view....

because nowadays i really can't feel TSPLS.....when it was golden old days with YuVi i used to be crazy and not want to miss any of the episodes but now i really don't bothered to watch at all....it happened while changing the channels i got to watch these two episode which is honestly krap but brought a twist to this krap show...i am fed up with this show....

they should not have introduced Rajbir and Bharti character they should handle YuVi couple like Prem-Heer being married together and handling all problems together even though there is misunderstanding....

and sandeep is a great actor ekta should give him his own show of him being the lead.....

Edited by Mages - 16 years ago

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Nikita

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Posted: 16 years ago

Mages I totally get ur view

Yes, yug shouldn't be going after a married women and marriage is scared but the marriage was forced which ruins it sanity which should occur with consent from both sides. Therefore I am with Yug still being in love with Vrinda, and he should get her back in his life.

I like you blame Vrinda for this situation because she shouldn't have gotten married but then you can't do much about it if you are forced to.

Yes RB did say he will get Vrinda and Yug together even when he was drunk and yes he will have problems once Vrinda leaves but if his fallen in love with her it does cause a problem for YuVi not because of his feelings but if doesn't let Vrinda go then.

Therefore even though I want to feel sorry for RB I can't because he had the choice of letting go fo Vrinda instead of asking her for six months because it would have saved himself and his family turmoil and he could have been given a wife that loved him and cared for him. He can be the nice man on earth yet everyone is selfish and will think about themselves at one point so why won't RB when it comes to Vrinda. Vrinda did tell him straight away I don't love and I don't want to be here if he was nice enough he would have let her go then.

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skstar

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Posted: 16 years ago

okay i will come back and comment on this!😊

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Mages

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: nikita_88

Mages I totally get ur view

Yes, yug shouldn't be going after a married women and marriage is scared but the marriage was forced which ruins it sanity which should occur with consent from both sides. Therefore I am with Yug still being in love with Vrinda, and he should get her back in his life.

I like you blame Vrinda for this situation because she shouldn't have gotten married but then you can't do much about it if you are forced to.

Yes RB did say he will get Vrinda and Yug together even when he was drunk and yes he will have problems once Vrinda leaves but if his fallen in love with her it does cause a problem for YuVi not because of his feelings but if doesn't let Vrinda go then.

Therefore even though I want to feel sorry for RB I can't because he had the choice of letting go fo Vrinda instead of asking her for six months because it would have saved himself and his family turmoil and he could have been given a wife that loved him and cared for him. He can be the nice man on earth yet everyone is selfish and will think about themselves at one point so why won't RB when it comes to Vrinda. Vrinda did tell him straight away I don't love and I don't want to be here if he was nice enough he would have let her go then.

Nikita

i agree yaar...but seriously i got tired of this show.....whenever i want to see a YuVi scenes all gets ruined....now i don't know whether its going to happen for now or not but now i am rooting for Rajbir-Bharti jodi...i don't know why i feel they have a good chemistry if shown.....

as you say about forced marriage i agree to one extend but still when such marriages happen we still bound to the duties and slowly gradually we fall in love with our husband or wife....well it did happen with my parents thats why my mom-dad marriage was a forced one...my mom was in love with someone but her elder bro did not like love so made her married to my father and slowly they understand each other and became friends and slowly fall in love but now my dad passed away few years back....my mom told me about this....sometimes marriages which are forced too have love coming on their way slowly....thats why i am not against forced marriage because it happen with my own parents.....

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Posted: 16 years ago

I'll come back to the post but can I just say, it shouldn't be so simple to put the whole blame on the girl just for the sake of it especially when shes no more happier than the guys.

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Mages

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: skstar
okay i will come back and comment on this!😊

will be waiting yaar.....

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Neetu2825

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Mages

i agree yaar...but seriously i got tired of this show.....whenever i want to see a YuVi scenes all gets ruined....now i don't know whether its going to happen for now or not but now i am rooting for Rajbir-Bharti jodi...i don't know why i feel they have a good chemistry if shown.....

as you say about forced marriage i agree to one extend but still when such marriages happen we still bound to the duties and slowly gradually we fall in love with our husband or wife....well it did happen with my parents thats why my mom-dad marriage was a forced one...my mom was in love with someone but her elder bro did not like love so made her married to my father and slowly they understand each other and became friends and slowly fall in love but now my dad passed away few years back....my mom told me about this....sometimes marriages which are forced too have love coming on their way slowly....thats why i am not against forced marriage because it happen with my own parents.....

I understand that sometimes forced marriages do work, as you just gave the example of your parents. But what about the countless marriages that don't? By simply saying that you are 'bound to the duties and will gradually fall in love,' we are promoting the IDEA of a forced marriage. We are basically saying that it is okay to take another person's right to choose their own life partner just because WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM. Seriously, we don't know what's best for them. Because how can we? We're human just like that person. So, unless we have some divine power in which we see the future and we see that girl/boy happy with our choice of spouse, how can we really be sure? On the flip side, someone may argue...well, how can we be sure that our child's choice is right? We don't. But, that's the point. In either case, you can never know 100% whether the choice is a good one. That's with any choice we make in life. If this is the case, then why not let that individual decide for themselves? At least if as parents we allow that, we are giving that person her/his right to exercise free will. So, they never wonder what if?

The situation between Yug-Vrinda-RB is complicated for a variety of reasons...this is how I saw the episode:

Yug: He is the guy who was convinced by Vrinda to wait for her. If she had told him on that day that she was bound by the duties of this marriage and she couldn't run away with him now or ever (in fact), he would have been crushed, but at least he would know that everything is final and would have moved on. Instead, she gave him this false hope that in 6 months time she will come back to him. Secondly, he was also the guy who was skeptical of RB, but again, Vrinda convinced him of RB's goodness and that he has promised to return her to him. Despite his instincts, YUG CHOSE TO HAVE FAITH IN RB because Vrinda had faith in him. That is blind faith on Yug's part.

Now, imagine his shock...when he hear's RB's confession. Put yourself in his shoes. Here you are living each day with the hope that one day you will get your love, only to have the person who was going to reunite you profess his love for your girl. I still say Yug's girl here because in everyway, Vrinda is still his. Sure, she has performed those marriage ceremonies, but she has not made that emotional or physical connection with RB that is present between a husband and a wife. They are "friends" at best. Anyhow, back to the topic at hand...It is a crushing blow to Yug's faith in RB (who even he was starting to think of as really nice person). What does that lead him? It leads Yug to anger....anger and FEAR. Mostly, fear because he is scared out of his wits over the possibility that RB may not return Vrinda to him. Fate his already dealt him a hard blow in the past (with Vrinda's forced marriage and him not making it on time), such that, Yug no longer believes in testing destiny. His faith in RB (who is the second person he has trusted to reunite them) is completely shattered. In this lingering fear is also fear that Vrinda may actually choose RB over him. On some level, Yug realizes the importance of family to Vrinda and he is probably scared that if not by love, Vrinda may decide to stay attached to RB out of responsibility. Then what? What will happen to him? How is he supposed to take that 6 months hope he had and let it go again? When you give someone hope and take that away from them, it is a far more crushing blow then if that hope was never presented in the first place. It kills you because you hold onto that hope like a lifeline, thinking that everything will be okay...but in the next moment, you're back to square one.

I also want to point out that Yug is not wrong here to desire another man's wife. The reason for this is because Yug himself had been willing to step out of the way at the beginning. He just wanted to talk to Vrinda to see that she was happy in her marriage, and if he found that, he would gladly not interfere in her life. However, she told him instead that she is planning to leave RB and to wait. So, how is Yug going after another man's wife (when she herself promotes that) wrong? He still doesn't see Vrinda as RB's wife but his own love....because this marriage was forced and not consensual.

RB: I will admit that I did feel sorry for him in this episode. He did not deserve to be subjected to such misfortune. On the other hand, we create our own destiny. True, he got stuck in this loveless marriage but once RB found out the truth...he had the FREE WILL to make a choice. To make her stay or to let her go. He chose to ask her to stay for the sake of his ammu (who btw, seems to be running around the household,....enjoying the wedding festivities....laughing and joking around with Preeto....yet, she has cancer and is dying?😆😕😲...totally don't buy that...stupid creatives...never make it realistic). Now, I realize that he did not want to hurt Ammu by showing that her grandson just got married and already has a failed marriage on his hands. But, he should have realized that he is only prolonging his suffering. Let's give him a benefit of a doubt and say that it was all for his AMMU. Okay, then I ask you this...why was he dreaming of a life with Vrinda (2 kids) the very next day? She just told him that she's in love with someone else and he just promised that he will let her go...yet, he's dreaming that she WILL STAY WITH HIM. 😕

In this way, if RB fell in love with Vrinda it is his own fault...he knew what she felt...yet he CHOSE to fall in love with her despite that. That was him exercising his FREE WILL.

Yet, why should Yug and Vrinda have to suffer for RB's Free Will? Why should RB get the right to win over the wants/desires of Yug? Simply because he is the husband? RB should have realized that he had to maintain a purely 'friendship' sort of relationship with Vrinda because that is what she wants and that is what he promised her. Here, he is saying that I will not back out of my promise but that is exactly what he is doing. The only difference is that instead of backing out himself, he is forcing Yug and Vrinda's hand by using emotional blackmail. He is trying to get them to back out of this deal.....how is that right too?

The one thing I hate about RB is that he is not keeping his word. As I see it, if you give your word to someone...you should honor that, no matter what. Don't bring your feelings or emotions into it...just honor it. If you have no wish to honor something, don't give your word. Be careful with what you promise because it is binding. In the olden days, before we had these laws and legal formalities, a person's word was like a seal. You were bound to it...couldn't back out no matter what. That was how business was conducted. But in today's world, the idea of a promise has somehow diminished. People have this idea that if you make a promise to someone else, its okay if you go back on it....given that you have a GOOD reason (in this case, RB being her husband and in love with her). HECK NO! A promise is a promise and you should always honor that. I say this not because I am a yuvi fan, but because this is what I believe in real life. I am careful in what I promise but when I do...I honor it no matter what. And that is what should be shown in this show.

Vrinda: Now, we may say that she is to blame for all of this but let's get serious. In our culture, how many girls actually have the freedom and the courage to stand up to their parents and say 'NO I Won't marry the guy you chose for me?" Hell, this idea is not even promoted. You have to only look at the shows on t.v. (these dramas) to see how backwards they are...they are all promoting the idea that women should be submissive and follow "traditions" even if they are forced into them. She could not have said no to this marriage. Remember, how BEBE blackmailed her...saying that you should bring us some poison if you want to show your in-laws that you are unhappy with this marriage (the day her in-laws came to bring their presents for her before the marriage). Now, as for telling RB....exactly, when was she supposed to do that? Her family was always around her...24/7...and RB didn't come back to her house after the engagement ceremony...and Vrinda was married off in 2 days time! That does not give a lot of time 2 track down a bridesgroom who isn't even in the same village as you.😕 So, the only time she could tell him anything was when she did...and it was not wrong. She told them on their first night together....before that emotional or physical attachment. They could have easily gotten the marriage annulled at that point...but again, RB asked her to stay. She tried to leave the next day...but RB's family dragged her back....which again, I blame RB because he is FORCING her to stay with him. She told him in that letter that she thought about it and although, she feels really bad for him, she can't. Here, Vrinda was being honest with RB. But he acted selfishly. He simply stood by and allowed his family to retrieve her, when she had no desire to return. He allowed other people to indirectly exercise his RIGHTS AS A HUSBAND. So, in this way, he has already backed out of his promise...just like he INDIRECTLY forced her before....he is INDIRECTLY forcing Vrinda again to accept him. She was only helping him out like a good human being, but he is taking advantage of her sympathy for him.

Now, where she is wrong: Vrinda's attachment to RB is wrong. She should realize that she has chosen Yug over RB and she should stick to that. The more involved she get's in RB's life, the harder it will be for her to distangle herself from that responsibilty. She should realize that and maintain a distant, yet respectful relationship with RB and his family. Not what she is maintaining at the moment.

She is also wrong in that she DID NOT question RB at this point. I seriously thought she was going to slap RB in today's episode because of what he said. She didn't. By not speaking up here and making her intentions once again clear to RB, she is only allowing this situation to continue. She also should have talked to Yug, who was standing outside their room. By simply letting him leave without a word, she is allowing Yug to question her faithfulness towards him.

Vrinda is at fault here due to her inability to act. She can control this situation but she is too confused at the moment to do anything...or maybe, she is the sort of an individual who simply doesn't want to make decisions...who rather have someone else make them for her.

A last point I want to make Mages is that there is no way that yuvi will ever marry with the happiness and good wishes of everyone. No matter what...someone will get hurt. RB will not give his well wishes to yuvi and allow them to marry...the only way yuvi are going to marry is if RB is taken out of the picture (i.e. killed off) or Vrinda makes the decision to leave him.

In the end, I think RB is to blame for his feelings...let's not make him the victim here. He was a victim in that he got stuck with Vrinda, but no one forced him to STAY in this loveless marriage. If now he is in love with her, why should we FORCE 2 other people to give into his wishes and desires? He knew what he was getting into...if he chose to go back on his word...that was him exercising his FREE WILL. Why should we take away 2 other people's chance to exercise their FREE WILL and seek their own happiness, just because of this one person who can't even keep his word? He knew Vrinda loved him...he promised to return her to him...and yet, he still fell in love. HIS WRONG should not determine the destiny and life of two other people. It isn't right.

Edited by Neetu2825 - 16 years ago

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Nikita

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Posted: 16 years ago

WOW Neetu you have made me speechless 👏👏👏 Prefectly said!

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Neetu2825

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: nikita_88
WOW Neetu you have made me speechless 👏👏👏 Prefectly said!

Thanks, hun...sorry for the lengthy post...I get a bit carried away, when expressing my opinions😆😳

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Vienna

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Posted: 16 years ago

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very well said neetu.. after ur post i dont need to add anything abt it. u done it superbly and u did it in well explained manner... loved to read ur long post😃

let me go off the topic now..
we know its all creatives and their wild ideas we shud blame. if i look at this as one show, wht i see is first this show got many warnings frm SP, it wasnt working in prime time slot that was the reason given, now creatives were totally clueless and they thot old plot of saudagar wasnt working for the show and they decided to introduce third angle in this show, second lead. little they knew tht this wont work ever coz in their other shows it worked well. whenever they introduced new guy in other show, they got new viewers and new admirers of new jodi but it never happened for tspls. they thot suri look can work easily coz it worked in movie but tht didnt worked at all. i think they made mistake by introducing sandeep coz he is not much popular to raise TRPs. ekta may expect tht frm Ejaz or Hiten or Ronit but tht is not the case here, no sandeep fans attaracted towards this show and there r few fans of Ravi compared to YuVi. its not tht sandeep never given a chance, he was given and if i m not wrong there were 2-3 weeks in between where they totally removed yug frm he show and gave plenty of time to sandeep to create chemistry and curiosity among viewers, he failed or i shud say sandeep-pooja pair totally failed.
now tht when cretives know it clearly no other track without yuvi can work, they shud soon get on the track without messing up with this story more n more.. and come on, as a viewers if we have plenty of stories to unite YuVi then these are creatives, they shud be having more ideas than us, isnt it? and still its not too late..they can keep all character in good shape and also can keep sanctity of marriage if that is major issue and can unite yuvi.

we yuvi fans will never give up till actually vrinda falls for Rb. otherwise its only yug and vrinda and shes always yugs love not rbs wife.

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