Ismail Darbar cries out foul - Page 10

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Originally posted by: WittyTwit

Aneek did nothing wrong.

I didn't blame Aneek at all 😕

The Gurus did nothing wrong (if anyone, perhaps Himesh, but even that is not for certain).

I beg to differ😊.Himesh being a decent mentor is a contradiction in terms..He politicised the darn show,I could endlessly rant on about his abysmal behaviour,but that's beside the point....Bappi couldn't see past Mauli,ID never really critiqued the performances

The Indian pop culture really cannot be totally trusted. (Desi pop culture in general). If they can so easily plagiarize an American movie, then why can they not mess with the results?

You reckon so??...I think I can repost a wee bit of trust in Zee.What do they get by manipulating the results??...As a matter of fact,it would be more profitable for Zee had Raja won,as he's a better performer than Aneek and can draw in the crowds for the future events/concerts etc

I don't understand why people bash on the Gurus for voicing their opinions AFTER the competition is over.

That's precisely my point!!...Why express their "genuine" opinions AFTER the show,when they expressed something totally different DURING the show,thereby misleading those audience who set store by the judges' critique...😕..It only takes away their credibility!!

It's not hypocricy to say all three are winners, but this person, by popular vote should have won the finals, and this person, by talent, should have won. They are all three winners. They were the highlights of the final show (which was crappy). Big music producers saw them.

I'm sorry,but that's completely contradictory😕...If all the three of them are winners,one construes that all are equally deserving,that it's immaterial as to who actually wins,because winning is a matter of votes,but singing wise,all are equally fitting winners..Why impute one particular contestant for winning?? Why discountenance Aneek or the voting trend??

Originally posted by: WittyTwit

You know what's interesting about this? The fact that one of the MENTORS, who is inevitably PART OF THE SHOW, feels suspicious at the results and that Zee is up to something... really fuels the belief that Zee did something.

Notice how Ismail said he thought by talent-Amanat, by votes- Raja. It shows he isn't simply one dimensional and hardheaded like Bappi da was when he walked out upon Mauli's elimination leaving poor Sumedha in shock.

You sound like a hardcore Aneek fan.

He's alright. Not bad. I was just surprised he really won. I predicted this earlier on in the competition--that Zee would make him win, and I actually had more faith in Zee than this... but the odds are looking bad.

Unless Aneek's fans magically came up with money (or saved a lot) for the finals, (considering online voting didn't count) there really is no way he could've won.

WittyTwit, I believe the original poster is an Aneek fan, but he is also an ID fan.

Otherwise, I more or less agree with your reply. Though I wish ID would have made his point but added something along the following lines: no one is calling into question whether Aneek deserved to win or not, Aneek is a talented kid, if he won fair and square, then end of story, there is no reason for complaint...but, if there is reason to suspect foul play, then that is a question of the integrity of Zee channel, not of Aneek's merit..I don't want meaningless PC/fake talk from ID, but something to make it clear that it is not Aneek winning that is the problem, it is Zee's integrity. As so-called mentors, these adults should be able to make their points without undermining the potential and merit of these young aspiring singers. That is just my feeling, I know it is probably expecting too much out of the term mentor when it is used to describe someone with obvious biases like HR.

The issue of tact aside, I don't see what ID has to gain from suggesting that Raja should have won. ID has his flaws, but he was not in the habit of begrudging Aneek or any other contestant when they sang well. My own feeling is that something may have happened behind the scenes for ID to come out this strongly and openly question Zee's integrity. I would hope that ID would not willy-nilly suggest foul play unless he witnessed something specific going on that gave him pause.

Then again, I wouldn't be shocked if this was much ado about nothing, as perhaps all this foul talk is another publicity stunt that even Zee itself is sorta in on along with other media outlets, so as to miilk all the drama they can while the audience still has a heightened interest in C-2007.

i agree with ID, im not sure how aneek became winner...the whole indian jaantha and even people in stadium were crying/shouting raja's name.. then they read ANEEK?!!!

wateva! he was the least likely to become winner in most peoples opinion

Poor ID, he is scared again that he will be forgotten once again like after C2005, so he is making efforts this time

Appaji why be angry at people who are atleast making an effort 😉

I daresay i agree with whatever id has to say but i think he has mentioned them wrongly.if he would have just said that amanat was the best and said good things about him it would have been acceptable.he does not have any right to criticize zee or the contestants whatever their singing abilities are.

but whatever id has said is true.amanat among the three is the only one who can make it big in the industry.aneek and raja in my opinion have no future whatsoever.an interesting thing that id mentioned was that the two singers whose voices are like raja's ie kailash kher and sukhwinder dont sing mainstream film songs.so u cant expect raja to do the same.

an interesting thought crossed my mind.what will happen if u make aneek vinit and emon chatterjee(ii3) sing a song together will u be able to distinguish their voices.


also even if someone did not like what id said dont bash him.i know he is going through a lean period but as sanjay gupta mentioned he is one of the "baaps" of indian music.he has given breaks to two of the best singers in india today namely kk and shreya ghoshal.so please dont say bad things about him.

Originally posted by: mojazwal

The issue of tact aside, I don't see what ID has to gain from suggesting that Raja should have won. ID has his flaws, but he was not in the habit of begrudging Aneek or any other contestant when they sang well. My own feeling is that something may have happened behind the scenes for ID to come out this strongly and openly question Zee's integrity. I would hope that ID would not willy-nilly suggest foul play unless he witnessed something specific going on that gave him pause.

Then again, I wouldn't be shocked if this was much ado about nothing, as perhaps all this foul talk is another publicity stunt that even Zee itself is sorta in on along with other media outlets, so as to miilk all the drama they can while the audience still has a heightened interest in C-2007.

I concur with you. I have always seen Ismail appreciating other gharana contestants more than his own gharana member for good performances, be it in challenge 05 or 07 . He told Aneek ' malik kare tu jeet jaaye' this year in presence of Amanat and same thing to Himani in presence of Nihira last time. I personally do not think it is a case of sour grapes, but something else which made him react like this. And yes, he does not have tact, so he's spoken without realising what the conseqences will be.

Originally posted by: Barnali

I was infact perplexed with the friendly behaviour between HR and ID during the show not this....😆 so finally show is over and ID-HR bahi bhai truth comes out in the open.😆

Instead of taking up this issue what ID should hv addressed was the regioanl voting....its becoming more cancerous day by day. Theres a very disturbing trend showing now.....any contestant - good or ok - if hails from east or NE has 90% chance of winning the contest when it gets decided by public voting. it is this public voting issue that people like ID should address. They need to find means to see that fixed number of votes be allowed per ph. or cell. Taking on this is showing him in a bad light.....he should hv not made such a statement.

agree to your overall post but precisely i too would like to echo the highlighted part. infact in my opnion if anyone wants to win such contests ,go migrate to these regions..you have sure and solid chances to win. i understand the meaning of fans but fanatics never made sense to me!!

also by now we all know ID's style of talking is more like rustic way hence lacks the diplomacy or polishing ..so if the statement was laced with some ornamental words it would have appealed in more friendly way.

like say : 1)" kaunsa mujhe ghar-grihasti sambhalni hai"

2) " kaunsa chula chauka sambhala hai"

both above carry the same meaning but the style is different. needless to say 1st is more urbane and 2nd one is rustic...

u never know, zee must have had their calculations and manipulations too....who knows where the hell truth lies ? 😉 😆

I knew that zee played game the chanel can accept that some one come from pakistan and win over indian this is very worst part of show,zee just want make money and that they did.

I can not believe people are trying to raise so much controversy over Aneek's winning when he is such an exceptional singer and there was no mass frenzy in kolkata like in c2005 for debo in Assam.Aneek has won because people all over the world and India fell in love with his voice.Period.