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Posted: 7 years ago
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Shantanu's reception of Bheeshm's oath was so well-presented. The way he argued with his son, the conversation was perfectly timed. I was glad that Shantanu neither believed comically early neither did he extend the argument to a tedious length. And, look at the pride in his eyes as he says that his son's name will survive the rust of ages, and shine till the end of time!

Devavrat's conversation with Ganga had a serene and calming effect. The way, now the mother spoke to her son with a heightened respect, and the way she quietly boosted his morale by emphasizing the fact that her blessings were always with him.

I'm kinda confused with what to say about the following scene where Shantanu coaxes Satyavati into stop blaming herself for Bheeshm's fate. Also, Shantanu's logic isn't very clear to me. A part of it seems like Satyavati's innocence is shattered by the vile King who wants her physically and refuses to let his sadness due to his son's oath cloud the way of his passion! But on the other hand, you really need to move ahead. There's seriously no point in sitting and trying to convince Devavrat to breaking his oath.
What are your takes on it?

The courtroom scenes in BRC's were love! In this one, I really liked the personality of the Royal Priest. The way he reprimanded the King was so nice. His arguments had modern connotations, which were, however, rightly squashed by Bheeshm. A pity, his successor did not remember this.

Beet gaye,
Din par din beet gaye
De kar anmol mol, le kar anmol mol,
Paaya sukh atulaneeya, dukh paaya atulaneeya,
Aatma ke meet mile, aatma ke meet gaye,
Din par din beet gaye...

The conversation between Bheeshm and Shantanu following this song highlighted their personal relationship that stood out of the oath. The shattered father tries to pull himself together but fails, but his sturdy son remains, all through his life, to offer a shoulder and help his father recover. I do not blame Shantanu wholly, but it's like so complex. It wasn't as if he did not want Satyavati, but he also knew what was happening was a blatant injustice! Poor Satyavati, she must've felt so guilty give everything went topsy turvy just because of her legendary beauty!
I believe Bheeshm had truly merged his father and the throne of Hastinapur into a single entity in his mind!

Saadhan sukh ke man dukhi Rahi adhoori saadh |
Bhool na paata man kabhi man-maana aparaadh ||

Shantanu and Satyavati's conversation highlights their repent, and sort of answers the questions of the people about whether Satyavati was at fault or not.

I think in this great sorry mess Satyavati was the one who suffered the most. Pehle toh, she's torn between her father's condition and her good sense; then she realizes that marriage with her gave the King nothing more than sorrow and a couple of useless sons! And then after his death, she stands before the crown like a broke before the lender!

Shantanu's death scene was crisp, but so moving! That expression on Satyavati's face, and the way Bheeshm pulled his brother close to his heart sent shills across my spine!

Hai aparadhi bhaavna mrityu kaamna bhool |
Gaya agni-rath rah gaye shesh chita ke phool ||

Seekhe hum beete yugon se, naye yug ka karein swaagat |
Karein swaagat, karein swaagat ||
Bhaarat ki hai kahaani sadiyon se bhi puraani |
Hai gyaan ki yeh Ganga, rishiyon ki amar baani ||
Yeh vishwa-bhaarati hai, trilok ki aarti hai(?) |
Hai nit nayi puraani, Bharat ki yeh kahaani ||


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Posted: 7 years ago
I always think that Bhishma's oath and Shantanu-Satyavati's wedding is the first turning point of this story. The unfortunate clan had to pay for the injustice done to Devavrata. But I really don't know whom to blame for this! 
Just one thing comes to my mind. I know Satyavati was extremely beautiful but, was her beauty such 'anmol' that we had to lose a well-deserved Yuvaraj like Devavrata who indeed was 'anmol' for Kuru clan's future? Also, Shantanu got 'atulaniya sukh' but wasn't his 'atulaniya dukh' of depriving his son from everything crushing that 'sukh' every moment? Could he enjoy the happiness he craved for?
Dr. Nrisinghaprasad Bhadury says, "If Bhishma could get the Kuru throne, the whole story would have changed, and his administration would have been so unique that it might have changed the famous Bharat vansha's name into Devavrata vansha." How true, no? 
I pity Shantanu who, in spite of being a great King of his time and having a great son like Bhishma, could not spend a few happy moments at his old age. And yes, I pity the Kuru throne who had to wait so long to be owned by a good King.  

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Radhikerani

Link - Episode 4

Shantanu's reception of Bheeshm's oath was so well-presented. The way he argued with his son, the conversation was perfectly timed. I was glad that Shantanu neither believed comically early neither did he extend the argument to a tedious length. And, look at the pride in his eyes as he says that his son's name will survive the rust of ages, and shine till the end of time!

Devavrat's conversation with Ganga had a serene and calming effect. The way, now the mother spoke to her son with a heightened respect, and the way she quietly boosted his morale by emphasizing the fact that her blessings were always with him.

I'm kinda confused with what to say about the following scene where Shantanu coaxes Satyavati into stop blaming herself for Bheeshm's fate. Also, Shantanu's logic isn't very clear to me. A part of it seems like Satyavati's innocence is shattered by the vile King who wants her physically and refuses to let his sadness due to his son's oath cloud the way of his passion! But on the other hand, you really need to move ahead. There's seriously no point in sitting and trying to convince Devavrat to breaking his oath.
What are your takes on it?

The courtroom scenes in BRC's were love! In this one, I really liked the personality of the Royal Priest. The way he reprimanded the King was so nice. His arguments had modern connotations, which were, however, rightly squashed by Bheeshm. A pity, his successor did not remember this.

Beet gaye,
Din par din beet gaye
De kar anmol mol, le kar anmol mol,
Paaya sukh atulaneeya, dukh paaya atulaneeya,
Aatma ke meet mile, aatma ke meet gaye,
Din par din beet gaye...

The conversation between Bheeshm and Shantanu following this song highlighted their personal relationship that stood out of the oath. The shattered father tries to pull himself together but fails, but his sturdy son remains, all through his life, to offer a shoulder and help his father recover. I do not blame Shantanu wholly, but it's like so complex. It wasn't as if he did not want Satyavati, but he also knew what was happening was a blatant injustice! Poor Satyavati, she must've felt so guilty give everything went topsy turvy just because of her legendary beauty!
I believe Bheeshm had truly merged his father and the throne of Hastinapur into a single entity in his mind!

Saadhan sukh ke man dukhi Rahi adhoori saadh |
Bhool na paata man kabhi man-maana aparaadh ||

Shantanu and Satyavati's conversation highlights their repent, and sort of answers the questions of the people about whether Satyavati was at fault or not.

I think in this great sorry mess Satyavati was the one who suffered the most. Pehle toh, she's torn between her father's condition and her good sense; then she realizes that marriage with her gave the King nothing more than sorrow and a couple of useless sons! And then after his death, she stands before the crown like a broke before the lender!

Shantanu's death scene was crisp, but so moving! That expression on Satyavati's face, and the way Bheeshm pulled his brother close to his heart sent shills across my spine!

Hai aparadhi bhaavna mrityu kaamna bhool |
Gaya agni-rath rah gaye shesh chita ke phool ||

Seekhe hum beete yugon se, naye yug ka karein swaagat |
Karein swaagat, karein swaagat ||
Bhaarat ki hai kahaani sadiyon se bhi puraani |
Hai gyaan ki yeh Ganga, rishiyon ki amar baani ||
Yeh vishwa-bhaarati hai, trilok ki aarti hai(?) |
Hai nit nayi puraani, Bharat ki yeh kahaani ||




@black: I think Shantanu is being practical here. Like you said, what is done is done. No point in crying over spilt milk. Neither father nor son thought things through earlier, so now that the deed is done there would be little point in tears or guilt. Nothing would change.


@red: It felt nice to see the Rajguru speak the truth without fear. I completely agree with whatever the Rajguru was saying & unfortunately time proved him right. But I do not agree with what Bhishma said here to silence the Rajguru. Bhishma & Shantanu both left the fate of HP to luck. What would Shantanu & Dev had done had Satyawati been barren? Or if she would have given birth to only daughters? Bhishma pratigya is great to hear & Dev must be appreciated for remaining true to his oath till his last breath but at the same time we cannot ignore that this pratigya did more harm than good & hence I am always left thinking if personal honour is more important than the good of your country/ kingdom?



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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: DharmaPriyaa

I always think that Bhishma's oath and Shantanu-Satyavati's wedding is the first turning point of this story. The unfortunate clan had to pay for the injustice done to Devavrata. But I really don't know whom to blame for this!  (I dont see Dev as the victim here. This was brought on him  by himself & he alone is to be blamed for it. Neither Shantanu nor Satywati asked him to do what he did. But he did it. And he paid the price...and not just him, but the kingdom & the family too)


Just one thing comes to my mind. I know Satyavati was extremely beautiful but, was her beauty such 'anmol' that we had to lose a well-deserved Yuvaraj like Devavrata who indeed was 'anmol' for Kuru clan's future? Also, Shantanu got 'atulaniya sukh' but wasn't his 'atulaniya dukh' of depriving his son from everything crushing that 'sukh' every moment? Could he enjoy the happiness he craved for?
Dr. Nrisinghaprasad Bhadury says, "If Bhishma could get the Kuru throne, the whole story would have changed, and his administration would have been so unique that it might have changed the famous Bharat vansha's name into Devavrata vansha." How true, no? 
I pity Shantanu who, in spite of being a great King of his time and having a great son like Bhishma, could not spend a few happy moments at his old age. And yes, I pity the Kuru throne who had to wait so long to be owned by a good King.  


And I am not so sure about Dev being the most ideal King either. Dhritarashtra is often blamed for his "putra - moh". Almost all his actions are credited to his "putra - moh" But didn't Dev take a life changing oath out of his "pitru moh"?😕 Both of them at some point of time placed their personal relationships over their Kingdom & the Kingdom suffered greatly because of it. Dhritarashtra hid behind tears & fake grief while Dev hid behind his oath & the whole my oath will always have to be "akhandit, anant" 



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Posted: 7 years ago
Hello! Latest member here! 😊

The emotional impact of the key scenes were tremendous.
Nothing was overdone. For instance, Vyasa's line to Draupadi,"Apne keshon ke dhyaan rakhna, putri" and the way it was delivered is just spine-tingling. 
Of course, only Keshav knew what it meant.

Puneet Issar was awesome as Duryodhan. And, what do you say about the greats like Nitish Bharadwaj and Pankaj Dheer?

From an acting standpoint, nothing can come come close to BRC MB.
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There is no such MB I have seen that has had as great an impact on me as BRC has. On top of that, Roopa Ganguly as Panchali fitted the role so perfectly. She did the role with elegance and elan. 
No one can beat Nitish Bharadwaj and Pankaj Dheer.
Mukesh Khanna as Pitamah Bhishma was simply perfect. He had that aura of a powerful and wise man. 
And what can one say of Gufi Paintal? 👏👏👏 And Puneet Issar? 👏👏
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One of the most unlikely funny scenes has to be when Arjuna consults his bros about how to introduce Subhadra to Draupadi. 😆
And he's actually told to consult Pitamah about it!! 🤣
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Ahhh...this is truly divine!! 
"Maakhan bahut khaa liya, murli bahut baja li,
Leelaayein bahut kar li Vaasudev,
Ab vo kaarya karo jiske liye prithvi par aaye ho" 

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6xXGxkhmlU[/YOUTUBE]
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And who can forget the legendary songs? Specially 'Vinati suniye Nath Hamari", "Jai Jai Janani Shri Ganesh Ki", and "Sabse Unchi Prem Sagai". Also the songs during Krishna's Baal Leela and few non-devotional songs like "Yeh Mahayuddha hai".
The Dohas at the ending of each episode deserves a special mention. Each of them has its own charm, and delivers the message of that episode so beautifully 
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Originally posted by: DharmaPriyaa

And who can forget the legendary songs? Specially 'Vinati suniye Nath Hamari", "Jai Jai Janani Shri Ganesh Ki", and "Sabse Unchi Prem Sagai". Also the songs during Krishna's Baal Leela and few non-devotional songs like "Yeh Mahayuddha hai".

The Dohas at the ending of each episode deserves a special mention. Each of them has its own charm, and delivers the message of that episode so beautifully 

"Yeh Mahayuddh Hai" completely fits the scale and epicness of the Kurukshetra War. 👏👏👏

And, did you notice that everyone is having this serious and stern demeanour in that song, except for Krishna? 😊

Check it out at around 08:18. For the line, "Yeh Dharmayuddh Hai", Krishna is actually smiling! 
No surprises there 😆 but, it just stands out so much! 😳
[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jr37DW0NKs[/YOUTUBE]