Asad! Stop calling another man's wife. Where are your ethics now? - Page 8

Originally posted by: delena90

@blue - All things only the audience knows. Right now for the characters - this marriage is very much legal.

Originally posted by: chicksoup

What is the point the show is trying to make here?

All through history women have been asked to sacrifice..and we have given.

We have sacrificed our dreams for the stability of the family.

We have foregone our right to education so our parents can feel settled after marrying us off.

We have given up on our jobs to raise the next generation.

We have even borne children after children, without given a choice...

All because we trust our parents, our husbands...to make the right decision for us.

Sometimes we know what is better for us...even then, we sacrifice...NOT BECAUSE WE ARE A COMMODITY, but we are exactly a pawn.

That is how society has looked on women for ages...someone who IS INCAPABLE OF DECISION MAKING.

It is this issue the show is addressing currently, if you care to look beyond the love story.

Ayan should not have asked. He did.

Asad should not have listened, he did..he allowed himself to be blackmailed emotionally, by three different people.

Zoya should have stood up for her rights...but she chose to stand up for her love, in a moment of weakness.

Leading to a stupid decision that could have disastrous consequences to all their lives.

Delena,

Infidelity:

It is not infidelity, because that is only in the minds of certain select viewers.

Asad calls it 'EK KAAGAZ BE TIKI HUI BAAT UNHE MUJHSE ITNI DOOR LE GAYI'- That is all it is to him...a piece of paper...he does not even consider her married.

Neither does Zoya, as has been clearly shown.

INFIDELITY is a term society will accuse them with, as many already are...Probably we will see the regressive elements embracing the term soon in the show.

He called her, because he wanted to reassure her...that things will be fine. That he will make it all fine.. May not be today, but surely after Nikhat's nikah...whatever badnaami he will have to endure to make 'them' a possibility.

Rupunzale:

A character used as a pawn...

Asad was used as a pawn by Tanveer.

Humeira and Ayan were used as pawns by Raziya for her game...

Pawn does not mean commodity...it just means someone who has been misled ...whose ACTIONS HAVE BEEN GUIDED BY OTHERS...

And like I pointed out in the beginning, women have always been used as pawns throughout...and the show is addressing just that.

You would see that if you were patient.

IF YOU'D RATHER JUMP THE GUN AND START MAKING PETITIONS...😆

I don't understand it...the show is not promoting slavery or trade or whatever nonsense you are implying...I hope the people in BCCC have enough sense to know that!😊

I will just respond to what you have directed at me :)

@red: Marriage IS a piece of paper - that is what defines you as married to a court of law and society.

@blue - not regressive just morals. Asad forfeited his right to question her about her being the minute he made the decision to loan her to his brother. They are no longer engaged or even together. To the characters - this marriage is very much legal and that is what Zoya has tried to point out to both brothers since. The minute she signed those papers her going back to KV isn't going to be as simple as "I am leaving" Now there are legalities involved and to the eyes of society and of course in a court of law until the marriage is proven invalid Asad is trying to engage her in infidelity.

If Asad is so sure that Zoya will be back post the Nikhat marriage he needs to shut and sit tight till that day comes. Until then he has no business calling her or even trying to meet her. Zoya was spot on yesterday.

Originally posted by: gossipgirlxoxo

Del I know that .. But I think she was referring to the community marriage not what they think

The community marriage is invalid but only WE (as in the audience) know that. Till Zoya and AYaan acknowledge that the marriage at the hall was invalid there is no way for the other characters to know otherwise. And neither of those two idiots have even stopped for a minute and thought about it.

Originally posted by: delena90

The community marriage is invalid but only WE (as in the audience) know that. Till Zoya and AYaan acknowledge that the marriage at the hall was invalid there is no way for the other characters to know otherwise. And neither of those two idiots have even stopped for a minute and thought about it.

To be very honest...Asad and Ayaan are idiots coz they don't even know what stand they should take...

Originally posted by: gossipgirlxoxo

I thought that the TM thinks that community marriage is valid .I was just pointing out how it is invalid.if you read her comments, I still think that she as an audience thinks that this marriage is valid.

I know that Ayaan, Asad and Zoya consider it valid and only we as audience know that 😊

But if you read through the pages the TM is blaming it all on Asad , what I was trying to say is that everybody is at fault. Yes Asad should shut up , no clandestine meetings and stuff like that.

But he was just trying to call her and tell her how , he plans to fix it ! Which I personally feel is impossible now!

AH! That's what you meant. No the community marriage is definitely invalid.

@red - he shouldn't even be doing that because frankly what can he say that will make the situation better. As somebody pointed out (was it you?) Asad has only just begun to realize what a stupid decision he has made but in my opinion it is now too late.

When AsYa get back together Asad will need to go through a significant groveling period.

The sad thing about all this is Zoya will never learn her lesson - because the narrative ignored that and made it about something else entirely.

Originally posted by: delena90

AH! That's what you meant. No the community marriage is definitely invalid.

@red - he shouldn't even be doing that because frankly what can he say that will make the situation better. As somebody pointed out (was it you?) Asad has only just begun to realize what a stupid decision he has made but in my opinion it is now too late.

When AsYa get back together Asad will need to go through a significant groveling period.

The sad thing about all this is Zoya will never learn her lesson - because the narrative ignored that and made it about something else entirely.

Originally posted by: gossipgirlxoxo

Had I been Zoya !

I will never get back with Asad no matter how much I loved him.

My respect comes before love.

My mistake that I got married accidentally agreed.

He should have helped me annul the marriage right away , not left me alone there , for a night for what .. My SR ??

I after , Asad emotionally blackmailed would have shown both of them my favorite finger and left immediately, spent a night at hotel but not there.

And Ayaan ,the universal idiot had the audacity to ask for my loan from his brother...

So all of them are equally wrong , but I do not agree with TM that only Asad should be blamed.

I think you ,me and Hari are still on the same page with this whole situation !

Yes we are on the same page. I think there was an epic miscommunication. 😆

@bold - WORD! I may have thrown in a right hook too 😉

Originally posted by: chicksoup

<font color="#0000FF">What is the point the show is trying to make here?</font>

All through history women have been asked to sacrifice..and we have given.

We have sacrificed our dreams for the stability of the family.

We have foregone our right to education so our parents can feel settled after marrying us off.

We have given up on our jobs to raise the next generation.

We have even borne children after children, without given a choice...

All because we trust our parents, our husbands...to make the right decision for us.

Sometimes we know what is better for us...even then, we sacrifice...NOT BECAUSE WE ARE A COMMODITY, but we are exactly a pawn.

<font color="#0000FF">That is how society has looked on women for ages...someone who IS INCAPABLE OF DECISION MAKING.</font>

It is this issue the show is addressing currently, if you care to look beyond the love story.

Ayan should not have asked. He did.

Asad should not have listened, he did..he allowed himself to be blackmailed emotionally, by three different people.

Zoya should have stood up for her rights...but she chose to stand up for her love, in a moment of weakness.

Leading to a stupid decision that could have disastrous consequences to all their lives.

Delena,

Infidelity:

It is not infidelity, because that is only in the minds of certain select viewers.

Asad calls it 'EK KAAGAZ BE TIKI HUI BAAT UNHE MUJHSE ITNI DOOR LE GAYI'- That is all it is to him...a piece of paper...he does not even consider her married.

Neither does Zoya, as has been clearly shown.

INFIDELITY is a term society will accuse them with, as many already are...Probably we will see the regressive elements embracing the term soon in the show.

He called her, because he wanted to reassure her...that things will be fine. That he will make it all fine.. May not be today, but surely after Nikhat's nikah...whatever badnaami he will have to endure to make 'them' a possibility.

Rupunzale:

A character used as a <font color="#0000FF">pawn...</font>

Asad was used as a pawn by Tanveer.

Humeira and Ayan were used as pawns by Raziya for her game...

Pawn does not mean commodity...it just means someone who has been misled ...<font color="#0000FF">whose ACTIONS HAVE BEEN GUIDED BY OTHERS...</font>

And like I pointed out in the beginning, women have always been used as pawns throughout...and the show is addressing just that.

You would see that if you were patient.

IF YOU'D RATHER JUMP THE GUN AND START MAKING PETITIONS...😆

I don't understand it...the show is not promoting slavery or trade or whatever nonsense you are implying...I hope the people in BCCC have enough sense to know that!😊

@ chicksoup...I don't remember using any derogatory terms towards you...you referring to me as writing nonsense is extremely offensive...yes, this is a trade that has happened...it's namely called pawnage or pawn slavery where a person is traded as collateral for a certain amount to time...isn't that what Asad did ? We can argue about various laws that will claim that.

Also, I didn't send any petition...why should I? I sent out a complaint letter to BCCC about the inappropriate stuff they are showing...I am an internet viewer and I have every right to do that...I sent out complaints about an old woman's torture by a criminal and also during the time the domestic violence took place. As if now it's a Pawn slavery and Gul khan has herself validated that.

Originally posted by: starsinmyeyes

To be very honest...Asad and Ayaan are idiots coz they don't even know what stand they should take...

Asad told Dilshaad that Zoe is now Ayaan's wife..and he told the same to Ayaan...but the 'mere bhaijaan ko mujhse zyaada koi nahi jaanta' Ayaan has now realized that his bhaijaan and Zoya really wanted to be together so he comes and tells him I will return your amanat when loan period lapses..

Mind u Asad is still unsure because Zoe does not take marriage lightly...since all three are so intelligent as Pri rightly pointed out, they are still unaware that the marriage is invalid...😆..

In fact I thought this marriage will hit Zoe the most as far as her beliefs are concerned..but she actually voiced out that this is temporary...Ayaan and Asad need to decide coz right now Asad relies only on Ayaan's version of things but is still unsure that Zoe thinks the same... They have all been dumbed down and have regressed into Stone age to show this story...and guess what...Gaffy leaves for Indore one day to post muqaddar ka khel...now Razia will start doing the same what Tanveer did in KV...

the only thing I know for now is that Zoya should not return to Asad... he has truely betrayed her and this time is no going back...since they are not going to show Zoya working...the only option is they bring on a new guy for her...gosh someone normal.