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Posted: 16 years ago
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@ punjini: many thanks for valuable input and links, I heard to all of them, the last one as mentioned by trishanu is a gem. This is link to
please scroll down to listen tomar kache fagun by Shubhomita it has Salil da written all over it, complex antara which was his hallmark.

@bambooshoot: I have this album called agneepariksha starring amol palekar, I bought this many years ago, both these songs mentioned by you are gem and I already have provided link for aaj koi nahi apna on page 1, this flows through raag hamsadhavni and yaman kalyan, very tough antara and mukhra as well.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Dear Trishanku: if you read the comments by listeners of malayalam songs where Salil da was musician, many express gratitude and thanks to Salil da for providing music at a time when kerala music industry was not developed like today, and as mentioned on the site of him Salil da has done 74 movies out of which more than 15 are malayali, also tamil and Oriyya ofcourse bengali as well, he was excellent when it came to back ground music and Satyajit ray booked Salil da for simply giving background score of his movie, I ll post that link if possible.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: sevak

I am loving this discussion here on my favourite MD - here is my li'l contribution -

Remembering Salil Chowdhury

"At one time composer and musician Salil Chowdhury was a commanding presence in the movie world in the city of Bombay. Previously, when he had been associated with the Indian Peoples' Theatre Association (IPTA), his fame had spread well beyond Bengal. Eventually the IPTA disbanded. Salil Chowdhury then found his new arena of work in the city of Bombay. That is when I first made his acquaintance. I respected him a great deal. He has made me sing for Bengali movies. I have also issued Puja recordings of my Bengali songs composed by Salil Chowdhury. These song were all extraordinary in both melody and lyrics. ' Over the course of my life I have worked with over a hundred music directors. Of these, perhaps only ten understood both music and the cinema. And of these ten, Salil was the foremost. Salil Chowdhury's melodies were different from those of the others. He had both a highly developed sense and a great understanding of Bengali folk music. On his way from Calcutta to Bombay, he had disappeared for several months. He spent this time in some faraway, long forgotten village, in order to get acquainted with village music, to familiarize himself with its tunes and tempos. Of course he was also very well acquainted with the folk music of other parts of the country. This folk music he has melded wonderfully with Indian classical music. Sometimes he would spend days on end without food or sleep in critical examination of one of his compositions, before deciding for himself how the tune should be developed. I have sung songs by him for over two generations. I have never before seen the equal of composer Salil Chowdhury. "

- Lata Mangeshkar

Source: 'Aalokpaat' magazine, November 1997 issue (pg. 8)
Translated from the Bengali original.

Thanks for the contribution.

No wonder his music has folk influence, songs of MADHUMATI are so influenced by North-eastern and Santal music. His upbringing in Assam might have added to it. Even his use of flute is exceptionally good. "O sajna" from PARAKH is the most popular one but two more songs "Mila hain kisika jhoomka" and "Bansi kyu gaye" from PARAKH has some excellent work of Santal flute and "Bihu" beat of Assam.

Mila hain kisi ka jhoomka

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26jLkoqzRGY

Bansi kyu gaye

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuCSs7c6QY4

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Posted: 16 years ago
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@pradarshak: flute both Indian and Western were fav instrument of Salil da if you listen carefully to his preludes (for instance tasveer teri dil me) the initial build up of emotions is done on flute chords and it immeditately takes you to out of this world, also many other songs on your chart (kentioned above) have at times 2 or even 3 flutes being played to develop interlude or support vocal. But I must say his use of flute is more in line of Western classical his tunes def have a folish touch like ghadi ghadi mora dil dhadke, daiyya re diyya re chadh gayo papi bichua.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pradarshak

Thanks for the contribution.

No wonder his music has folk influence, songs of MADHUMATI are so influenced by North-eastern and Santal music. His upbringing in Assam might have added to it. Even his use of flute is exceptionally good. "O sajna" from PARAKH is the most popular one but two more songs "Mila hain kisika jhoomka" and "Bansi kyu gaye" from PARAKH has some excellent work of Santal flute and 'Bihu' beat of Assam.

Mila hain kisi ka jhoomka

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26jLkoqzRGY

Bansi kyu gaye

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuCSs7c6QY4

I absolutely love Mila hain kisi ka jhumka and bansi kyu bajaaye. Both these songs have a certain simplicity that is so difficult to find these days. So you think has been influenced by the music of Assam? Yes, the flute interludes are absolutely memorable.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Dear Pradarshak and punjini

Mila hain kisi ka jhoomka

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26jLkoqzRGY

this is is beautiful song and points toward the diversity Salil da was gifted with, this has typical folkish touch and a delight for flautists but pls note that both in antara and mukhra there are two flutes being played in harmonic form, that is a western influence but used brilliantly in a folkish song.
Bansi kyu gaye: has typical Salil da chaap and def has influence of folk music. It is amazing that despite being complicated on notation they sound sweet and lilting.
Edited by Indradhanush - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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punjini you must have noticed in bansi kyu gaye the landing note is pancham.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Indradhanush

Dear Pradarshak and punjini


Mila hain kisi ka jhoomka

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26jLkoqzRGY

this is is beautiful song and points toward the diversity Salil da was gifted with, this has typical folkish touch and a delight for flautists but pls note that both in antara and mukhra there are two flutes being played in harmonic form, that is a western influence but used brilliantly in a folkish song.
Bansi kyu gaye: has typical Salil da chaap and def has influence of folk music. It is amazing that despite being complicated on notation they sound sweet and lilting.

In the former song, the western influence is very subtle and not immediately obvious. In fact, to most it seems like a folk song; that is the genius of Salilda. Also this song has shades of SD Burman's style (esp the flute piece which immediately follows the lines 'mila hain kisi ka jhumka').
In the second song, the western influence is more obvious, the sudden rising and falling notes in the flute and song itself make it quite obvious.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Yes punjini whether Eastern or Western influence these songs have such lilting and sweet tunes, you can keep listening to them endlessly, how creative was that era, so many exceptional musicians around and equally good singers.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Indradhanush

Yes punjini whether Eastern or Western influence these songs have such lilting and sweet tunes, you can keep listening to them endlessly, how creative was that era, so many exceptional musicians around and equally good singers.

I really enjoyed this discussion. You are absolutely right that these songs have a lilting and sweet tunes.
I know that Salil Chaudhary's music is the starter for this topic, but I want to recommend two songs from VASANT DESAI. For me these songs are evergreen and never loose sweetness.
1. Tere sur aur mere geet by Lata Mangeshker from Goonj uthi shehnai (1959).
http://www.esnips.com/doc/8b96a756-c352-4f52-8672-caa2591237a4/Tere-Sur-Aur-Mere-Geet---Lata
2. Nain so nain by Lata and Hament Kumar from Jhanak Jhanak Payal Baje (1955).
http://www.esnips.com/doc/9228e835-34c3-42c2-bf0f-d1f5bffaf929/007.Nain-so-nain-[JHANAK-JHANAK-PAYAL-BAJE]

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