Sayonara..!!! (Edited) - Page 7

Originally posted by: lucky.m

Shru ..Nimmi

Good to see u guys back and the points being put across which give much better perspective for the clueless souls around on whats happening and why it did and why all this sudden negative disheartening flow of energy in forum...Already feeling much better ..

🤗 thanks and hugs

Love

Lucky

Originally posted by: tootiefrootie11

Nimmi- I am not arguing with you. I've said all I wanted to. Some of you see things differently and that's fine. As for judging- how much are people judging Varun? Do anyone of us know him personally? Do we know what he did and why and what the background to it is? Yet, still judgments galore are being heaped. And I don't think one point in my post was about judging anyone- I even said very clearly that I can relate to the disappointment, I am a die hard SwaSanian after all BUT I still don't agree with slating and bashing the guy the way is being done.

As for the points you make about Varun involving Tej in his segment and the "buddy project"as you call it- what I saw was VK invited Tej, she came and clarified that she was not a chipku (she has clearly seen the comments made against her on this everywhere), both Amar and VK looked shocked. Amar asked why did she say this and she said as she reads that. Then VK said (he was pouring oil on troubled waters as per me- again only my POV but the judge and jury have already spoken elsewhere)- that he had NO idea this was said but if it was, it shouldn't be. Then he said NOONE should be bashed, they are all friends etc and explained how close his wife is to Tejaswi so perhaps he sees her a lot. IF Helly was there and someone said she was being bashed, I bet my law degree VK would have said this is not done. I genuinely think VK is clueless of how much goes on online and that's no excuse for him, as he needs none, but that is the way he is. I know another actor like that who used to be clueless- did his job and was aware of stuff on SNS on the fringes but not involved or too aware. That is him- he may be "wrong" and its certainly costing him some "fans" who wish to see him behave differently but that to me, doesn't make him a villain. Nowhere was he throwing anything in anyone's face. As for the VaHe IV- my personal feel is Varun didn't want to for whatever reason and he cannot pretend and again, he should be able to do such stuff for the sake of fan sentiments yes, but maybe he cannot and again, I think that's his choice.

As for my feelings, yes, they are very hurt by a lot of people and the nasty things being said. And this that you say- "and for godsakes don't lynch your own friends for the celebrities who don't know you exist. judge the opinions. NOT the ones who own those opinions." Already too late- as this is being done already.

I already don't come here much and have threatened everyone on my TW that if I am tagged in any bashing tweets I will block- best for sanity to leave all this and walk away.

PS: Oh and my overall point on all this is- so many have decided VK is evil incarnate and much more. Great- and they took to everywhere to vent and defend Helly who herself came on and said she didn't want to read the stuff being said and she and Dhanya and Tej were not happy with all- Dhanya reiterated this. So basically it seems to me that Helly herself is being hurt and damaged by all this and I see little point in the endless negativity being spewed and re-spewed and then for good measure when it calms, it starting again. It really bodes well for the show and simply feels like the destruction of even the good memories.

Sorry if I sound harsh in response but am fed up, am hating coming to the forum and feel barely able to speak to so many people I thought were friends but can easily call the likes of me blind fans!

Originally posted by: tiny15

shru i agree wid u

but abt tej it luke d 2 me she din't clear the things but she rather instigated VK indirectly against his fans.oderwise why 2 say that thing even if sum1'd made that comment on her?? who does that??

i don't think that VK is uncomfy wid helly prsnly or from his heart. its sumthingelse that hes avoiding.

@anbt his spouse the less said is better. she seems 2 immature & insecure after wat i read abt her. i was stopping myself from a long time 2 form any opinion on her.tho my intuition was saying sumthingelse.

but let it. soon she"ll also face the reality w.r.t he r closest frnd.

Originally posted by: Banjaaran.

thank you nupur and shru for putting your points across so beautifully🤗

i don't mind opposing diverse views. infact i love them. gives me a different perspective.
debating, discussing, judging the opinions.
but i hate.. truly hating judging the person for having those opinions.

i am putting my views and doing so only because i feel you won't judge me for those.

here i go:

i do NOT care who Varun is buddies with. i really don't.
but i did not like the way the things have been going since GPA days. i voted only once for that. but have seen beautiful members losing their sleep over it and voting like crazy to make their OTP win. swasan win.
and were so happy when they did. all those people wanted in return was a Vahe interview thanking and appreciating their love and effort.
and the wait continued on and on.

yes we got gift segments and other few segments. am i the only one who thought those segments were terribly unsatisfactory?

and then the birthday segment.. the absolute last straw.
i have not seen his 'teju is my best buddy. stay off her' interview. i saw the birthday one.
people wanted to see vahe interview. if he was uncomfortable giving that one all he had to say is.. no.
but he made a buddy project out of it again. Tejasswi refused to come to it. he again requested her to join him and the entire interview was in your face 'we are best friends in the town' one.
like who the hell cares?
why are you making such a pomp and show out of it. haven't you already told people that before?
you don't want to give vahe say so.
it is heartbreaking to see people still requesting vahe interview.

helly always sells vahe.
tejasswi and namish sells temish.
and varun has been avoiding the fact the he is a half of the product called swasan. and he has some responsibility towards it.
doing a great job on screen is not enough in this era of intense SNS.
he is not asked by the media outlets for interviews because he is a wonderful actor (he is). there are dime a dozen serials around and jodis.
yet media chases him because... people want to hear him.
why?
because he is varun kapoor..
no!
because he is sanskaar for them. half of swasan.
and him being so dismissive towards swasan is frankly speaking.. unprofessional.
even karan patel; the true bad guy of tele land; is not THIS dismissive towards ishra when he doesn't share good vibes with divyanka.

and the fact that his spouse makes mocking and 'i hate swasan' comments on social networking sites doesn't help.
letting your family members talk about your professional equations is.. unprofessional.

we can pick and chose our friends. varun can too.
but what varun can't is .. getting down to the level of the fans and act immature.
you are uncomfortable with certain someone.. say no to the interviews. that is it.
and keep your family out of your professional equations.

fans too are going WAY overboard. give the actors a break.
or take a break yourself.

and for godsakes don't lynch your own friends for the celebrities who don't know you exist.
judge the opinions. NOT the ones who own those opinions.

proofs?
we being in virtual world; drooling over fictional characters, talking about a fictional show, getting attached to the celebrities who are unaware of our existence, spending our time and effort to make them win, write stories, making edits... all these are ..EMOTIONS & FEELS.

do we really need proofs and alibis for those?
then why for this?

varun made sanskaar come alive. NOTHING can take this away from him.
but he has changed from what he was.
doesn't affect me in anyways but was disappointing to see the disappointment all around.

my pov: the entire birthday segment was high school juvenile act.
can't cheer for the one who was part of it.
too bad it happens to be varun.

i am terribly sorry if i am hurting anyone with my views.

i was supposed to check pms but out of habit landed in the forum again.
i guess i need to get off from IF all together to get out of my negative energies.
so taking a complete break.

bigs hugs all around.
and heartfelt apologies for my harsh views.

take care of yourselves.
nothing is worth hurting yourselves and your close ones over.

Originally posted by: Nynaeve

Dear Shru and Nimmi,

Totally agree with you guys and great to see you in IF😊

love,

Nyna

Originally posted by: Nynaeve

Though I seemed to have jumped the gun, because some of your points are contradicting. I have not seen the interview so I will not refer to that. But I agree with Shru that the issue has been blown way out of proportion.

Both Nimmi and Shru are also right when they say that it should not matter what the actors are in their personal lives. In fact if the leads do not get along in their personal lives and yet it translates into sizzling chemistry on screen, it is a testimony to their professionalism. And that is what I want to take away.

And I do not want to argue whether VK has to listen to his fans' reasonable requests (the definition of reasonable is very variable, where does reasonableness end and fanaticism begin?). Nor will I comment on the interview(s) because I rarely watch any of them and have not watched the one being dissected.

For me SwaSan matter. And I am eternally thankful for Helly Shah and Varun Kapoor for bringing them to life and making SwaSan the golden couple they are. I just want to hold on to the magic that SwaSan are and not think of VaHe. Selfish of me, maybe be.

But then as per my POV, it is preferable to delineate the characters from the actors (especially when in the posts made over the past few days, the lines separating the actors and characters are completely erased) and focus on the fictitious couple that we have come to love and adore, the one that has inspired so many writers and and given us so many marvelous stories to read.

Nyna

Originally posted by: tootiefrootie11

Dolly- sorry if you don't like what I am about to say but I tell it like it is (respectfully I hope) and on reading what you said my first thought was- Here we go again! You don't like Tejaswi and Dhanya- fine, but what is the point of what you are saying if not to instigate more fights, especially with Tejaswi fans? I believe at long last a truce is called on that front so such comments are bound to shatter that fragility and I wish people would stop this endless sharing of "opinions" about who is like what offscreen specially when it is not constructive. What is the use of debating what you are bringing up here? Whatever happened, the point I was discussing was VK and what I think about him and how and what he said/ did what he did. I am not interested in bringing in Tej or Dhanya. I do think VK didn't want to give an IV with Helly- maybe they were busy, maybe he had another issue- who know? Frankly, I don't care. And it's these sorts of endless speculations about who is doing what that have led us to the present mess in my opinion.