Sayonara..!!! (Edited)

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Mallika-E-Zain

@Mallika-E-Zain

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Posted: 9 years ago

#41

Originally posted by: Trisha_magnet
Everyone has a right to there opinion...everyone is right in there places except certain things
Just to clarify helly was very much present there Infact not busy with shots, that time she was fine not ill and IV was shot on 25th August...

Trisha, will you believe anything, anyone says? Can you just read Debo's post! It was just perfect!! You can't believe any reporter, like that...you can't believe any rumour like that!!
Heck, I am so tired now!!

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Trisha_magnet

@Trisha_magnet

Rocker

Posted: 9 years ago

#42

Originally posted by: MusicAddict

Trisha, will you believe anything, anyone says? Can you just read Debo's post! It was just perfect!! You can't believe any reporter, like that...you can't believe any rumour like that!!
Heck, I am so tired now!!

I m not believing on anyone saying or for that matter

I m believing what I have seen n been noticing since months n some non SR member has been quite vocal abt everything which can't be ignored...🤢

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Mallika-E-Zain

@Mallika-E-Zain

Rocker

Posted: 9 years ago

#43

Originally posted by: Trisha_magnet

I m not believing on anyone saying or for that matter
I m believing what I have seen n been noticing since months n some non SR member has been quite vocal abt everything which can't be ignored...🤢

Fine, you believe what you want, I'll believe what I want! Peace out!
Goshhh!

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Nupur

@Nupur_5

Voyager

Posted: 9 years ago

#44

I agree we didn't get much VaHe IV & Segments!

Bt I noticed something:

* IV we get during segments & few VaHe IVs those were like before! I didn't see any changes on their behaviour or body languages!

We got less IV Bt those were exactly like before!

* I saw every OLV & saw VaHe moments during those shoots where they were smiling, laughing & talking normally!

Neither VK or Helly went from each other as soon as shoot got cut or over!

* SwaSan scenes are less bcoz of drama Bt the magic is still intact! If they had any problem, they could have avoid SwaSan hugging, touching scenes! Bt we all know even though SwaSan scenes are less but we got SwaSan hugging & touching scenes more than RagLak hugs!

There are some other lil lil things which makes me believe that they are okay & friendly with each other with their limitations!

And we should stop assuming & thinking too much! And stop believing rumors!

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chandusai

@chandusai

Dazzler

Posted: 9 years ago

#45

Guys I'm really sorry ... I just want to say tht as a Swasan am also upset for not getting vahe segment... All Swasan fans are upset...let's not argue on what varun said or not... It's troubled phase ...and we need to pass through it ...we are sure every thing will get sorted or we will know a clear picture in future... Let's not fight over it unity is our strength ...we all together did wonders where no other fandom could do... Let's not give opportunity for others (out of this fandom )to preach us...give advice to us... Or Mock us... Let's not give that happiness to others... Please ... We are swasanians... We all stood together ...and will continue... I'm really sorry if I have hurt anybody...

And shretha dear...I hope u remember me...we had a chat at AT few days back...plz don't leave... I love ur work...plz complete them ... And I also need more stories in future dear... plz for Swasan sake don't leave the forum...

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Avj123

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Posted: 9 years ago

#46

Originally posted by: Nupur_5
I agree we didn't get much VaHe IV & Segments!
Bt I noticed something:
* IV we get during segments & few VaHe IVs those were like before! I didn't see any changes on their behaviour or body languages!
We got less IV Bt those were exactly like before!

* I saw every OLV & saw VaHe moments during those shoots where they were smiling, laughing & talking normally!
Neither VK or Helly went from each other as soon as shoot got cut or over!

* SwaSan scenes are less bcoz of drama Bt the magic is still intact! If they had any problem, they could have avoid SwaSan hugging, touching scenes! Bt we all know even though SwaSan scenes are less but we got SwaSan hugging & touching scenes more than RagLak hugs!

There are some other lil lil things which makes me believe that they are okay & friendly with each other with their limitations!
And we should stop assuming & thinking too much! And stop believing rumors!

@ bold Absolutely agree with it.

Vahe are professional and no matter what their offscreen equation is,it never affects their onscreen magic.

And I agree that we should stop thinking too much and just enjoy what we are getting onscreen as who knows how long the show is going to last.That should be a bigger concern right now.

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aamias

@aamias

Rocker

Posted: 9 years ago

#47

Originally posted by: ishanita
heya dear I am with u on the same sinking
boat !
now I am feeling sort of cheated as I
devoted my past one year to a person who
even don't care
let's pray to meet again on some lovely
place and where we have some existence in
our favs eyes!
love ishita

PS SHREE PLZ COMPLETE UR STORIES DEAR
PPS -VIEWS OF TWO PEOPLE CAN DIFFER AND HERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE SO PLZ DONT MIND ...U FOLLOW UR HEART

ishanita so nice to see u again

how r u ??

so agree with u

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tootiefrootie11

@tootiefrootie11

Rocker

+ 3

Posted: 9 years ago

#48

Hey Shreetha! We haven't really interacted before and I am sorry to have missed out on your stories too (I have been limiting my time on this forum a lot due to the nasty and negative atmosphere and pointless issues arising each time), but I am a writer like you and I know that for most of us our emotions and writing are inextricably linked. Therefore I can totally relate to not wanting to write more as when the sort of drama and bad vibes as now pervade here come into play it can dim or even extinguish motivation. I myself am low on the will for my current story BUT I refuse to let that be the reason for disengaging with my writing.

I had decided I wasn't going to comment on this issue at all as it seems pointless and those who understand already do and those who have made their minds up the other way, won't change it but I couldn't restrain myself today. I hope what I say will come across constructively, it is meant that way.

I feel this issue has been blown WAY out of proportion and has morphed into something totally unnecessary and damaging to all SwaSanians. I can actually see both sides of this very clearly and can relate with the opposing side to my own views and totally get why a lot of people are upset over the lack of long standing engagement (as it appears) by Varun with what fans want. However, I think that is entirely up to him and I am not dismissing this by saying it's his personal life- that of course it is but to me the issue is deeper than that.

I get all the points made that Helly may have been busy etc. She may have, she may not. It is immaterial just as it is whether Varun wanted her in the IV/ segment or not. If that is what EITHER Helly or Varun (or anyone else for that matter) want- i.e. to choose who they give IVs or spend time with offscreen in any way shape or form, that is entirely up to them in my opinion. I really don't see how ANYONE of us can be in a position to KNOW what happens with those guys as we are not there and as far as I know, none of us has actual confirmed direct knowledge (I don't count hearsay or rumours or speculation which is what a lot of this seems to me to be). Varun and Helly may have an issue, they may not- so what? Why should we be owed explanations and who are we to demand that they be friends and good with each other? It would of course be amazing for that to be the case- and it once blatantly was. Now it clearly isn't - BUT to me, that doesn't open season on either Varun or Helly.

I totally disagree that Varun is fake as he is so casually accused of being. IF he was fake- he would be giving cosy IVs and pretending and we would all be singing his praises. But here it is the opposite. I don't KNOW if he has an issue- but it seems he didn't want to (for whatever his reason is) give that IV or do a joint segment and he didn't. Not liking that and being disappointed by that is fine. But accusing him of the vile things that I see being laid at his door and taking it so far as to ask for him to be replaced (yes I have seen some people go that far) and the same people who praised his performances to the skies now saying he is (all of a sudden as if my magic) not even acting or emoting well to me is beyond low. Being a fan gives no one a right to demand that much and go that far. And if you don't like Varun- fine, don't be his fan, no one is forcing you but why is he being hung, drawn and quartered for not having the best social networking skills?

The IVs and segments I see- I find that both Varun and Helly are fine! I saw and really enjoyed the 150th AT segment. So why did he do that if he's such a horrible person and hates Helly? And there's many more examples too where they have BOTH demonstrated professional maturity towards each other. So what if they don't hang around much anymore? I would personally love them to and see their old bonding back but I cannot and will not judge for it being absent as I simply don't know what or why things are changed!

I know a lot has been said and done and much water under the bridge has passed but it really upsets me to see the state of a thriving forum and fandom reduced to this- petty fights, name calling and lashing out on so many levels. What also strikes me as ironic is that so many have turned keyboard crusaders for a cause that the person in whose name it's been done is not behind. Helly has shown such dignity and immense maturity always in dealing with endless speculation about her so called victimisation by her co-stars and she firmly disputes each allegation each time, be that against Namish, Tejaswi or now Varun. I feel all this is only actually more damaging to Helly and to the whole cast and crew. I think those guys go about their day as professionals and enjoy very nice and cordial relations and to varying degrees (and the variations may be huge) are either friends or mere co-stars. So what? I am a fellow partner with 24 other people- we have to make a whole firm run and some of us cannot stand each other and others are best friends BUT that doesn't affect our operation and we all get on to be able to do our jobs. I see it as that- if you focus on SwaSan and not on any offscreen drama (imagined or real), I feel decisions about leaving, staying, writing, etc all become easier.

I know you have not said anything against any actor and my comments are not aimed at you but your post gave me the chance to say what I felt and I hope you will not mind:). I do hope you will be able to complete your stories as I am sure your readers would love to read them but I totally understand and relate if you cannot- you have to do what you feel is right, but don't do it based on what you read through speculation.

This is purely my personal POV and I am not judging anyone - if I am judged and called a blind fan, that is ok with me- I have thick skin and I know exactly who I am so it doesn't bother me.

Love,

Shru

Edited by tootiefrootie11 - 9 years ago

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Mallika-E-Zain

@Mallika-E-Zain

Rocker

Posted: 9 years ago

#49

+1 Shru!
Nothing more left to be said!

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BB_CallmeC

@BB_CallmeC

Inactive

+ 2

Posted: 9 years ago

#50

Originally posted by: Nupur_5
I agree with you Jwala & Trisha that fans can make or break a celebrity! And yes, if we can invest our time and emotions, then they should also think about us!

BUT I believe fans only have the right to question their fav celebrities about their works NOT their personal life!
As a public figure, celebrities owe explanations only about their works not their personal life! They don't owe us that neither we have the right to ask them!
When Helly & VK signed for SR, they did that to work not to answer us about their friendships!
We have the right to criticize or ask them about their performances Bt we don't have any right to ask or demand or order them what they should do or not!
I'm also lil hurt but I'm not a person who interfere in others life! Neither I ever went gaga over some friendship, nor went grouchy!
Both VK & Helly are very professional & they know their works! However their equation in off screen, they work hard & give their best for which they signed SR!
And I respect them for that! And I will give their due as hardworking actors Bt sorry I'm not going to crib or gush over their off screen bond!

And when this show will end then you will see, every actors are here to do their job! They worked with other actors in their previous shows and I'm sure they were friends with those ex co-actors as well, maybe still are friendly Bt we all can see the present!

I have friends as well where I works or where I went for few months Bt when asked about my best friends, my answer will be my school & college friends!
VK also answered the same that his best friends are his school & college friends!
No matter how easy he is with his co-actors, I'm sure they are not his best friend neither he share his personal life!

And about his equation with Helly before & now - I don't know neither I'm interested! They don't need each other to breath or live! They both are enough for themselves and have their family, friends & loyal fans!
And with time & situation, equation change! And I don't blame either Helly or VK bcoz everything has limits! They heard alot of bullshit! If they are friendly, some people have problems & badmouth about their relation! If they are not so friendly, then also some people have problems & badmouth them! They are also human!
And I'm not being a blind fan! I don't believe in blind faith!

So I'm grateful to Varun Kapoor & Helly Shah for doing their job with finesse and being positively professional!
And I have no right to ask, question or judge their personal life!

P.S: I'm sorry if I hurt someone! Please be sure that I had no intention to hurt anyone! Still I'm sorry if I did!

My exact feelings!! Thank you Nupur!! <3 <3 <3

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