CVs Cheated us - can we bring the TRP down - Page 3

Guys, apart from all this, do we have a composite TRP thread to tell us - in one thread - the TRP of all the weeks since this series started?
It's not among the sticky threads.

And basically, imagine that the net gets switched off for a month. The people who would be watching the series throughout that month without even noticing that serials can be discussed online, those people get the viewership to great points on their own.
They like regressive tracks, so any PH or channel which tries for progressive tracks may expect to suffer loss.

If a series is a success in viewership-terms, it will stay a success regardless of online.
But if the offline audience doesn't support and the series isn't a success in mass-viewership terms, then we end up between a rock and a hard place.

And to make matters worse, BARC is supposed to be considerate of the rural audiences as well. TRP was not, and it still favoured the damn conservative variety of tracks.

We as fans (of whichever varied fandoms) can get the series closed if the majority-audience reactions remain as so far, but we can't offer the channel the future hope of getting satisfactorily massive millions of viewership, because they already haven't got it until now.

Originally posted by: Nym.

There's a difference between reel and real. I think people are old enough to realise that. YOU are solely responsible for something you choose to watch, nobody else. At the end of the day, TRPs matter, and in some cases, they're ignored and the creatives continue to shape the show as they wish. Trust me, I was a long time fan of Veera and Baldev, they completely butchered both of these characters, and the fans went crazy tweeting them and what not, to change the storyline and they did N-O-T-H-I-N-G.

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

Maybe, but that still doesn't take away the responsibility mass media has: Of NOT promoting unethical bullcrap like glorifying maniacal obsession by showing the psycho getting rewarded. What Ragini and Sanskar did is a CRIME, and not some childish prank. Injecting drugs is a serious matter, and they cannot f**k around with it.

There's an option of making it an issue. But when that happens a few times (even in a total of several years), then the reaction is not what we want.
Several years back, there had a few instances of people talking of regressive tracks and social responsibility. The government simply put a hold on all the satellite channels, everyone ended up getting to watch only Doordarshan. It took quite a while to let the channels be allowed again.

We have the option of not watching, the channels don't have the option of showing what not enough millions of people watch.

We can't tell a business to show loss-making stuff unless we are going to pay for their losses.
If people wanted to watch progressive stuff, channels and serials would be happy to show that.
But if majority of audience don't, then channels which show progressive tracks and serials, those entire channels usually close down.

Leela, its not about "progresive" or "regressive". Its about "ethics". Showing youngsters pranking with drugs and claiming obsession as love can send the wrong message to millions of impressionable minds across the country. Let's not forget that this is a land where the masses are extremely ill-informed about stuff like drugs and the difference between love and obsession. Even today, you see people shedding tears for stalkers who go around doing weird, creepy shit like carving their loved one's name on their hands with a knife.

They are nt gone shw Ragini living happily evr after lol im sure they are gone shw her suffer in a loveless mrg nd living a sad life!
And it gives out a msg that bad things never gives happiness!Evn in todays episode Sanskar was thrwn out evn after regretting his actions n movin on why bcoz he was wrong md im sure eventually he will live a happy life where as Ragini will suffer!

Krystal, 'ethics' in this context is another word for 'progressive'.

When we give a speech, we need the audience to stand there and hear us out.
Imagine paying to hire an auditorium, giving free tickets, and the audience leaving in the first few minutes because they are not interested in the speech they are hearing.
Even if the only aim were to educate people, it would be at a loss.

Serials and channels are not there to educate people. They would do charity for that.

Here, every episode is worth lakhs of rupees, and weeks and months add up to crores.
On a main entertainment channel (Hindi serials), one million viewers is inadequate.
Even a few million viewers may be considered inadequate.

If there are complaints, those serials may close. Even the channel may close if the situation gets out of hand.

But neither PH nor channel can afford to keep running if they are not showing regressive stuff.
There are dozens of people working with each PH, hundreds of people working for channels.
When viewership becomes not enough millions of people, it has an absolute effect on the employment of those people.

Films have worse impact than serials, and that is what youngsters mainly imitate.
When a TV-character does something, there is no sugarcoating that bad is good. Bad is justified or condoned or simply forgotten, but not claimed to be good by the mostly conservative massive audiences.
Whereas when film-heroes do something bad, it *is* claimed to be good/stylish/heroic, and youngsters and even adults think those things are admirable.

And the reason such tracks are considered mass-acceptable in serials is that millions of viewers are already of the mentality where they think this is fine to watch for fiction, but won't waste a moment watching some progressive track.

We complaining can impact finances of PHs and channels, and reduce the number of people they employ, or whether they can keep existing.
They can stop showing regressive stuff, and go into a loss, and then close down.
But they can't not show regressive stuff and keep going.

Originally posted by: leelaa9

Krystal, 'ethics' in this context is another word for 'progressive'.

When we give a speech, we need the audience to stand there and hear us out.
Imagine paying to hire an auditorium, giving free tickets, and the audience leaving in the first few minutes because they are not interested in the speech they are hearing.
Even if the only aim were to educate people, it would be at a loss.

Serials and channels are not there to educate people. They would do charity for that.

Here, every episode is worth lakhs of rupees, and weeks and months add up to crores.
On a main entertainment channel (Hindi serials), one million viewers is inadequate.
Even a few million viewers may be considered inadequate.

If there are complaints, those serials may close. Even the channel may close if the situation gets out of hand.

But neither PH nor channel can afford to keep running if they are not showing regressive stuff.
There are dozens of people working with each PH, hundreds of people working for channels.
When viewership becomes not enough millions of people, it has an absolute effect on the employment of those people.

Films have worse impact than serials, and that is what youngsters mainly imitate.
When a TV-character does something, there is no sugarcoating that bad is good. Bad is justified or condoned or simply forgotten, but not claimed to be good by the mostly conservative massive audiences.
Whereas when film-heroes do something bad, it *is* claimed to be good/stylish/heroic, and youngsters and even adults think those things are admirable.

And the reason such tracks are considered mass-acceptable in serials is that millions of viewers are already of the mentality where they think this is fine to watch for fiction, but won't waste a moment watching some progressive track.

We complaining can impact finances of PHs and channels, and reduce the number of people they employ, or whether they can keep existing.
They can stop showing regressive stuff, and go into a loss, and then close down.
But they can't not show regressive stuff and keep going.

Okay so as per you PH and channel is justified to show regressive stuff for the sake of 500 people they employ??? Sorry no. I dont think that is a justification enough. If we start justificating on these lines then a lot criminLs should also get free. Bogot saare log apne peet ke khatir gunah kartha hai.. Does that make their crimes fine??

I would be happy because if trps dip Colors would shift the show to 6pm slot and we will get a new show to watch at 9:30pm slot..

Hi Anewfan ( sorry I donno ur name)
I'm wth u . Infact I have already stopped watching this crappy serial and will not start watching till the time these cv's show somethng more practical and sensible .