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Posted: 9 years ago


True that like one loves to point to force somebody to read weird version of boring boti
I rather love to love essence
Which is some like to insult others and then say
Don't fight on Mahabharata


After reading Mahabharata some ppl remain rude

Anyways enjoy
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Posted: 9 years ago
^ Harsh truth is - not everyone sees the epics from the divine angle.

Some treat it like a way of life, n try to inculcate values from it.

Others treat it as history, n try to research the historical aspect of the epic...n make it their lifetime's goal to find out wat actually had happened in that era. Bankim Chandra, despite being a worshipper of Lord Krishna spent decades to research n wrote Krishna Charitra, where he logically showed how 16000 wives story is a myth.

Both perspectives are correct. It is one individual's choice to see the epic whichever way they want to see it.
If focussing on essence is the primary goal...it is one thing.

But if one becomes a staunch supporter of one character, n decides to pass judgment on other characters based on KMG just bcoz it favours his/her favourite character, then people will counter it with the concept of different versions of Mahabharat. I too have my favouritism n disagreements with others. But, owing to my favouritism, if I criticize Arjun based on Bheel Mahabharat openly in social media, then Arjun admirers will point out how Bheel Mahabharat is not in sync with Vyas' epic. There is nothing rude in that...Bcoz it is through such debates that I have acquired watever little knowledge I have of the epic. As long as there is logical explanations as to how Bheel Mahabharat is not authentic, I should be ok with it.
After passing harsh comments on Arjun, I cannot escape the counter arguments by bringing in 'essence' n 'inner meaning'. Bcoz people who understand the 'real essence' of Mahabharat dont show biased attitude or staunch support towards only one character. They realize the inner dilemmas of all characters without any attachment or favouritism- a feat I dont think I'll ever achieve in this lifetime.


This is where BORI comes in- as collaboration of all versions. Whether we like it or not, that's a different thing.

And debating on Mahabharat with conflicting ideals n verbal abusing(that happens on Youtube) are two different things.


Edited by amritat - 9 years ago
Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: amritat

^ Harsh truth is not everyone sees the epics from the divine angle.

Yes only you in this whole world sees it from that angle

Some treat it like a way of life, n try to inculcate values from it.
Why are u repeating me ...



Others treat it as history, n try to research the historical aspect of the epic...n make it their lifetime's goal to find out wat actually had happened in that era. Bankim Chandra, despite being a worshipper of Lord Krishna spent decades to research n wrote Krishna Charitra, where he logically showed how 16000 wives story is a myth.


And kisari mohan ganguly he too made this his life's goal and his translation IS THE ONLY COMPLETE VERSION OF MAHABHARATA To DATE
RESPECT THAT

Both perspectives are correct. It is one individual's choice to see the epic whichever way they want to see it. We can elieve whatever we want...that is our personal choice.

YEAH LIKR UR CHOICE IS ANTI KRISHNA ANTI KARN

However...if we decide to discuss about a particular character's greatness or mean-ness, on social platform n pass judgment n give character certificates based on one version that favours one's own favourite character, then the concept of different versions n authenticity comes in.


DUDE YOU JUST CALLED DRAUPADI WHAT
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: angrani


Yes only you in this whole world sees it from that angle

Why are u repeating me ...




And kisari mohan ganguly he too made this his life's goal and his translation IS THE ONLY COMPLETE VERSION OF MAHABHARATA To DATE
RESPECT THAT


YEAH LIKR UR CHOICE IS ANTI KRISHNA ANTI KARN



DUDE YOU JUST CALLED DRAUPADI WHAT


🤣

Really? Then u have absolutely no idea...There are quite a few people in this forum itself who dont believe in divine angle.

And me repeating u? 😆 I have said similar things before in this forum. Maybe u never saw, bcoz u never that active.

And yes...who said anything about disrespecting KMG? Ofcourse, KMG is one of the souces that any serious Mahabharat lover would follow. But it is not the only authentic version, as people claim to be.
That's all...bcoz there are other more researched versions as well.

Anti-Karna?...not exactly. I admire some qualities about Karna.
But I am Anti-Krishna? 🤣


And I called Draupadi something? Is it something bad? 🤣
Well...that is the funniest thing ever.
I am sure...if this forum had been active then some of the other members would have been to testify.
That if I call Draupadi something...it would be in wat meaning. 😆

By the way...I am wondering, how come this argument started?

I think Lakshmi n I were discussing about a few inconsistencies between versions regarding Vrishaketu. How come my answers in Quora...n all that came in? 🤓
Edited by amritat - 9 years ago
Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: amritat


I think quoting from other sites is against rules of IF. I had done that myself before n got bombarded with warnings...😆
So be careful...

OK

Secondly...well, not everyone sees the epic like u do..



SIMILAR SITUATION NOT EVERY ONE SEES EPIC LIKE U TOO

.😉
Some read it like a divine script...others treat it as history.


I TREAT IT LIKE A DIVINE ITHIHAAS




Some want it for entertainment n thus enjoy scandalous incidents...while others want to find out wat all are later additions. Different people have different view of the epic.
LIKE U WANT TO DELETE EVERY EVENT OF KARNS LIFE

Some love to whine...'Oh...Draupadi rejected my Karna...she is such a bitch'...n 'Oh Karna killed my Abhimanyu...He is horrible'...😆.


ARE YOU ... I MEAN WHAT ARE U typing ...
CALLING DRAUPADI WHAT AND KARN ...


..etc, etc. For such people...KMG, BORI, Gita Press Edition make no difference...😆 So, no matter how much evidence u provide, that Draupadi's rejection was later addition or Karna never killed Abhimanyu...they will stick to their whining.
JUST LIKE U ARE sticking TO BORI

WHEN U CAN'T NAME HOW WHO WHY THE PARTS OF EPIC WERE removed

KISARI MOHAN GANGULY'S VERSION REMAIN THE ONLY COMPLETE VERSION SO BUG OFF

But there are many others who love to dig into the authenticity of the various facts. If u were a regular member of Mahabharat forum, you may have seen many such people. I BELIEVE ONE COMPLETE VERSION FULL OF FACTS RATHER THAN acquire INCOMPLETE KNOWLEDGE FROM incomplete version ...



So if u dismiss BORI as khichdi bcoz it doesnt favour Karna much or bcoz it is 'pro-Pandava'...then it's your choice. None of us can force you.
For some of us it is the perfect Chicken Biriyani with all the right ingredients...😉

Yeah perfect chicken biryani ...
Incomplete and deleted facts



I personally prefer BORI, especially after reading about the way they have researched for it.

Hey like I said its incomplete incomplete incomplete and u call it research of incomplete translation

Kisari mohan ganguly spend his life to translate vaispayana and parikishit convo

His version is complete and present on sacred texts unabridged and complete of all the shloks





Ofcourse it is not perfect..
still has many incidents like Draupadi's Vastraharan which are interpolations. But I guess, if they bring out a second edition, they might remove more such incidents.

And u urself Said its imperfect and incomplete then why are you reading it second edition of incomplete version of Mahabharata so when are you bringing the next incomplete Mahabharat




Oh by the way...I am no staunch Pandava lover...😆but it seems like you hate Karna


I am 😆 after reading ur comments after each point. U need to read up a bit more..No not BORI, but u may atleast read KMG completely...


i have read the complete udoyoga sabha swargarohinka Karna parv ...
And and due to less time I will also try to complete my knowledge of Mahabharat Have you readkmg Have you read complete kmg version ...

just a friendly suggestion... ofcourse it depends on your choice. You may read wat u want...
same to you please read the kmg complete version so that we never fight on incomplete BORI what is stopping you from reading kmg






Please Read kmg as its the complete version ...

And next time don't call draupadi a bitch as I love her and its hurts me immensely when someone judges any character of person of Mahabharat be it dushasan or Duryodhan or Draupadi or Karan Arjun or Vishnu or Bhishma Pitamah or ashwathama please don't judge and pass comments on them


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Posted: 9 years ago
Oh my my!!!
Hell of a fire there!!!!
N amrita meri jaan... Kmg aur hum!!! Lolzzz bachpan ka dsth hai!!!
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: angrani




Please Read kmg as its the complete version ...

And next time don't call draupadi a bitch as I love her and its hurts me immensely when someone judges any character of person of Mahabharat be it dushasan or Duryodhan or Draupadi or Karan Arjun or Vishnu or Bhishma Pitamah or ashwathama please don't judge and pass comments on them



U have some serious reading problems.
I called Draupadi a bitch? 🤣
I only quoted wat people often say about her...Just like people often blame Karna wrongly for Abhimanyu's death wen in reality, he was not the main killer. That's wat I meant.

And who said KMG is perfect? KMG too had deleted many verses...n yeah I have read KMG...most of it. In fact I read KMG before BORI.
And KMG is not a researched version...it's a translation of watever texts he had found namely, the Bombay texts n the Bengal texts. It is mentioned in his Preface.

And BORI is a complete version. Its Sanskrit version is complete. And the researchers have given description of why they have deleted some crucial verses. Ofcourse, for that u have to read up.

And who am I to delete incidents from Karna's life? 😆 BORI did...not just from Karna but from everyone else's as well. I just think they might be correct.

And did you just say 'bug off'? Why? Cant debate normally without shooing n bugging? 😆

Nevermind. It's no point talking anymore. It's not like I am very knowledgeable about the epic, but it's difficult to discuss with people who dont want to learn more from discussions.

Nonetheless...it's the weekend. So have a great time.
And please dont bother to reply...😳
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: DramaQueenBride

Oh my my!!!
Hell of a fire there!!!!
N amrita meri jaan... Kmg aur hum!!! Lolzzz bachpan ka dsth hai!!!


Krishnaaa...my love!!

Arre kaha ho yaar tum sab!! Aur dekho main kaha phas gayi!! 😭
Oh I so miss those days wen the Mahabharat forum was brimming with well-read people...n we used to have those intense debates on different versions, interpolations, various characters, etc.


And yeah...KMG!! Our first best friend of Mahabharat since 2013...😆

Edited by amritat - 9 years ago
Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: amritat


🤣

Really? Then u have absolutely no idea...There are quite a few people in this forum itself who dont believe in divine angle.

And me repeating u? 😆 I have said similar things before in this forum. Maybe u never saw, bcoz u never that active.

And yes...who said anything about disrespecting KMG? Ofcourse, KMG is one of the souces that any serious Mahabharat lover would follow. But it is not the only authentic version, as people claim to be.
That's all...bcoz there are other more researched versions as well.

Anti-Karna?...not exactly. I admire some qualities about Karna.
But I am Anti-Krishna? 🤣


And I called Draupadi something? Is it something bad? 🤣
Well...that is the funniest thing ever.
I am sure...if this forum had been active then some of the other members would have been to testify.
That if I call Draupadi something...it would be in wat meaning. 😆

By the way...I am wondering, how come this argument started?

I think Lakshmi n I were discussing about a few inconsistencies between versions regarding Vrishaketu. How come
my answers in Quora...n all that came in? 🤓




If u respect kmg why don't u read kmg yaar read it it would be so nice to discuss it

It's far most verified and complete than chicken biryani as u call

I call Mahabharata our ithihas I don't treat it like some crunch punch and definitely oppose the version which
Says no insult of draupadi happened so why did kurukshetra happened
And why such ignorance to karn in bori
He too was pivotal part of Mahabharata

Exactly what incomplete research is done on bori
When it deletes the character of karn to a point that even shishupal is mentioned more than karn in bori

You just called draupadi a bitch didn't you even In giving example one should not use cuss words and then u say that u follow Mahabharata ... O_O
Anyways not judging jaisi aapki iccha

As of quora you were rude in there yaar
U commented and judged my well researched answer from kmg version and so easily passed the judgment that it lacks research
I have provided all links even screnshots of official kmg still without thinking once you just passed ur opinion that day not even thinking for once that the person who has done research and provided links ...

U Just judge yaar so easily
And are you 2 different person be it on quora or india forums
I respect ur bori knowledge but that day u disrespected and disregarded my kmg knowledge

I felt so hurt

I chose to ignore it on quora but when I came to know that u are here discussing Mahabharata

Then I thought to intervene ...

When u that day called my answer lacking facts when the facts were present before u think about the pain I took before providing each link of kmg each screen shot
And amrita di what I got insult

Please answer me why did you pass judgment before not reading kmg and questioned the integrity of my answer



As I have not read bori I never comment ur answers on quora I respect your knowledge
And I expect same from u

When someone writes an answer on quora and a well full research on every aspect at least I do
I could have replied you back on that very same day or commented on your well researched answer

But I chose to wait
I didn't chose to take revenge but in a subtle way remind u that its easy to judge but not easy to write

People judge so easy to judge naa and I am staunch supporter of Arjun karn and love all characters

Its evident visit @dailygita and @karnquotes or @just1jyotsna on Twitter to know more
We post gita and Mahabharata on Twitter

Not only you di many judge

That's why I intervened here when I could have replied easily on quora am I bugging ...
Cause if I am ... Then I cannot help it

U r the same person naa quora and here
Hope you will become more friendly on quora too
Thereof questioning u today

Awaiting for your answer ...

And you can call ur friends aap phanse nahi par muje Jo bura laga Maine kaha




Edited by angrani - 9 years ago
Posted: 9 years ago
And happy weekend to u as well amrita di

Hope you got the answer that I who rarely comes here intervened

But be it quora or IF
You are the same person that the same person who just judged me and my knowledge so I don't take revenge but I remind people that before judging someone one should also look the pain the person took

I could have replied u that day itself
But here you are more open and friendly which
I don't see on quora


So hopefully you get why I suddenly intervened I just want to know ...

Why were u so rude that day so judgy when u are so open minded and fun here


I too discussed Mahabharata 2013/

And I am a very easy going person
When I don't like something I say

But being a karn fan I hate being judged and questioned about well researched topic that I personally know
It hurts amrita di
Aakhir main bhi insaan hun bura lagta h jab koi ekdum se intervene kare aur aapki mehnat KO unverified facts kahe
Aur kahe u have not researched ...and says that U don't know anything bura lagta h di ...
Aap mujse bade ho ... Isiliye Maine kuch nahi kaha
Aur aap bahut knowledgeable ho that doesn't mean aap kisi KE
researched answer KO bhi simply keh do that I don't know anything aur sabse mazedaar baat aapne apne comment mein likha ki that ++I Hope I have not offended you ++ haha bhai hum bhi insaan h jivit h aapke anuj h
Bura lagta h offend Hui main
Feelings hurt Hui meri ...


Mahabharata discuss Karo par kisi ki feelings mat hurt Karo
Aakhir jisse aap discuss kr rahe ho who bhi insaan h I am not a decoded machine that take insults

Anyways hope u become more friendly on quora as well

Happy weekend
😉

Jyotsna sharma

But do answer that's my only wish ... I won't bug u once I get my answer as I rarely come here
So be happy stay calm and please let others too stay calm

Edited by angrani - 9 years ago

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