Q!!If Soumya is Snakey then HOW or WHY is Yuvraj not SnakeRaj? - Page 3

@Dunce : Right back at ya! 🤗

yes i agree with u. even i think this only. soumya nd yuvi dumb act i dn't like them and yuvi nt deserves suhani.

Originally posted by: clarity

'Cause SnakeRaj is what we call Yuvi and Baby Snake together, it's not meant just for him. 😆😉

Anyway, Yuvraj, though he has his own faults, is not like Soumya. He is not someone who would wreck someone's life just to get what he wants and plot endlessly to that end.

Yuvraj is no angel, but he's not evil, either. He never intends to harm anyone on purpose.

His faults are that he's superficial, arrogant, boorish and indecisive. He doesn't know himself, and his whole world is based on 'judging a book by its cover'. Of course, it's changing now.

The reason I want a separation track for YuvAni where he pines for her, is because of how he treated her before their marriage and how he treated her immediately after it. His inaction, lack of initiative etc mean that he has to earn Suhani's love and understand that it is him who is lucky to have her in his life, not the other way around.

Originally posted by: drummedup

@Dunce : Right back at ya! 🤗

@Clarity: Right! That is the reason we are still pining for Yuvani because the guy still has hope. He is a flawed human being but never evil. The good thing about his lack of action is he is incapable of doing evil too.😆 Suhani is atleast street-smart enough to guess what is wrong around her.But him?😳

It is maybe because he grew up in that environment, so he really can't tell what's right or wrong with certain aspects of it. It is only when a 3rd person questions about it he ponders.

Suhani did show him the mirror in that once when she said " What if I was fair but a bad DIL?" That got him thinking and questioning his environment but alas! they din't go down that road furthur.

Also, he has grown endearing towards suhani's lack of cleanliness than disgust which he initially showed.

There are subtle changes but for the current situation they are just not good enough!

@bold- Yes, DU, that's the issue. Personally, I think Yuvraj needs a long journey of introspection and self-awareness. He needs to go through the pain of losing Suhani to understand her value and love her.

Before, he had her, but didn't want her. Now, I would like him to want her, but not be able to have her.

Although Dadi's brainwashing means that he never got a chance to be a good person, but ultimately, there are many people who come from less-than-savory environments, but turn out good. So, I don't completely buy that his childhood entitles him to this attitude, 'cause Soumya has also had a bad childhood, where she missed a father figure and her mother struggled to bring her up.

I think he should understand the difference between right and wrong, 'cause he is old enough.

Originally posted by: dunceHat

YES

@ bold

CLARITY!!

Partially true: In most marriages(almost all), there definitely is one partner who loves the other more and the other just learns to love or care for the other over time! In fact, it is bigger responsibility, and even a burden to be loved than to love. 😉

So, I feel for SU since Yu is not taking care of his responsibility as well as he should!

I think he already loves her..LOVE can't be measured in sou gram do-sou gram na?

It's either there or not! If he didn't love her, he would have long fought and fought with her (not fun-fights) and would NOT wait for sodaragmen.He himself would have devised n-plans, gud or evil, I have no doubt he would do all stuff to throw her out! He's cool because he started to love her but with all the sodaragment and everyone minding the SUYU business like no-ones business, He's not getting comfortable to take it to the next level!

The fear of loss will hopefully propel him to confess his feelings😆😆

Originally posted by: dunceHat

YES

@ bold

CLARITY!!

None of that necessarily needs to change at all. Eventually if its love...people usually love wrapper and all, else there never is Love!

aside, drummedUp did mention about loveless marriage and difficulty in nibhana!

Partially true: In most marriages(almost all), there definitely is one partner who loves the other more and the other just learns to love or care for the other over time! In fact, it is bigger responsibility, and even a burden to be loved than to love. 😉

So, I feel for SU since Yu is not taking care of his responsibility as well as he should!

Yup separation track, will make him want her back but make him love her more than he already does? I doubt.

I mean in real-life terms, I doubt!

I think he already loves her..LOVE can't be measured in sou gram do-sou gram na?

It's either there or not! If he didn't love her, he would have long fought and fought with her (not fun-fights) and would NOT wait for sodaragmen. He himself would have devised n-plans, gud or evil, I have no doubt he would do all stuff to throw her out! He's cool because he started to love her but with all the sodaragment and everyone minding the SUYU business like no-ones business, He's not getting comfortable to take it to the next level!

The fear of loss will hopefully propel him to confess his feelings😆😆

Well, I think it needs to change. 😉 Personally, I want better things for Suhani. You are right that a relationship is never truly equal when it comes to the amount of love on both sides, but I don't want Suhani to be the one who loves him more. 😛 I would love if she moved on with someone else, but it's not gonna happen.

I have always thought that Yuvraj has immense capability to love those who he lets through his defenses, so always imagined Yuvraj finally loving Suhani more than she loves him. Of course, the CVs aren't sticking to his character sketch. 😕

I don't think he loves her yet- he just cares deeply for her. The day I see desperation from him for her, I will say he loves her.

@bold- Why do you think he loves her, my darling Dunce? 😉 If this is love, I would rather not see it. 🤪😆

Originally posted by: clarity

@bold- Yes, DU, that's the issue. Personally, I think Yuvraj needs a long journey of introspection and self-awareness. He needs to go through the pain of losing Suhani to understand her value and love her.

Before, he had her, but didn't want her. Now, I would like him to want her, but not be able to have her.

Although Dadi's brainwashing means that he never got a chance to be a good person, but ultimately, there are many people who come from less-than-savory environments, but turn out good. So, I don't completely buy that his childhood entitles him to this attitude, 'cause Soumya has also had a bad childhood, where she missed a father figure and her mother struggled to bring her up.

I think he should understand the difference between right and wrong, 'cause he is old enough.

Originally posted by: clarity

Well, I think it needs to change. 😉 Personally, I want better things for Suhani. You are right that a relationship is never truly equal when it comes to the amount of love on both sides, but I don't want Suhani to be the one who loves him more. 😛 I would love if she moved on with someone else, but it's not gonna happen.

I have always thought that Yuvraj has immense capability to love those who he lets through his defenses, so always imagined Yuvraj finally loving Suhani more than she loves him. Of course, the CVs aren't sticking to his character sketch. 😕

I don't think he loves her yet- he just cares deeply for her. The day I see desperation from him for her, I will say he loves her.

@bold- Why do you think he loves her, my darling Dunce? 😉 If this is love, I would rather not see it. 🤪😆

LOL haha I don't know CLARITY!! let me loud think...

Originally posted by: drummedup

Yeah, there are people, but unfortunately he is in majority of - not one of them. lol.I attribute his bad childhood to certain qualities in him not his entire being. Right now his behavior is inexcusable but he doesn't know that it is so😆 unlike soumya.

Soumya's childhood influence is also visible - self, before anything else. But her selfishness was ok to me till she lead suhani to the swamp. She came back, yes but how much of it was love Suhani than guilt of killing another human? Also, the inhuman way she lead suhani to the truth. She is beyond any excuses.

This whole family has warped sense of Right or Wrong. Prime example of unhealthy relationships. Their own fears and prejudices rubbed on to their children. It is really horrible to be growing up in such environment and to add to that being the richie-rich's they are they've to adopt some fake personality traits too. I agree with Pratima, only someone like Suhani can tell it as it is and help such family.

Yes, her childhood is no excuse for her behaviour, 'cause it's not like people have given Suhani the best time. 🥱 It's all about how you handle it, and Soumya has just sunk into a hole of depravity.

@bold- I don't think so. Why should Suhani be treated like some reformer whose life's mission is to help the Birlas? 😕 She has been tormented to no end by them and a woman with self-respect would not deal with this. IMO, Suhani needs to leave. They are all adults, and if they don't realise what they're doing wrong, I suggest she just dump them and leave. Why should her life be dedicated to serving the Birlas?

Originally posted by: clarity

Yes, her childhood is no excuse for her behaviour, 'cause it's not like people have given Suhani the best time. 🥱 It's all about how you handle it, and Soumya has just sunk into a hole of depravity.

@bold- I don't think so. Why should Suhani be treated like some reformer whose life's mission is to help the Birlas? 😕 She has been tormented to no end by them and a woman with self-respect would not deal with this. IMO, Suhani needs to leave. They are all adults, and if they don't realise what they're doing wrong, I suggest she just dump them and leave. Why should her life be dedicated to serving the Birlas?