How it all started....

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Ram killing Ravan, Kubhakarna- how it all started...

Once Sanat kumar brothers, went to Vaikunth to meet Vishnuji. They were kumars- teenagers.
Jay, Vijay, Vishnuji's dwarpals stopped them from entering inside. They in turn got cursed by 4 rishis- Sanat Kumars, to be born on Earth.

Sanat kumars were, highly learned rishis, who remained kumars forever. They represent highly elevated disciples, who wanted to meet their Aaradhya- Vishnuji, but were stopped & mocked by Jay & Vijay. Stopping a devotee from meeting their aaradhya, turned out to be a crime & they had to pay for it by being born 3 times.

As Hiranyaksh, he stole Earth. Which was hidden under water. Vishnuji took Varah avatar to kill him.
As Hiranyakashyapu, Prahlad was stopped from worshipping Vishnuji.
As Ravan, Sita was seprated from Ram by abducting her.
As Kumbhakarna, he helped Ravan.

The main nature of their mistake, crime, remained similar. Every time they stopped an elevated soul or devotee from meeting their aaradhya.

This shows, one can not escape from paying for their crime. Inspite of being Vishnuji's favourite, they had to spend 3 births on Earth. They commited many crimes during these births. The main reason was their arrogance, the root cause of their behaviour as the guards of Vaikunth.
If they being so near to Vishnuji, couldnt stopped getting carried away indicates, even after being near to God, one has to be alert all the time as for as their actions are concerned. A small mistake can put you down form a high position. It may a long time to get back to the original position.

Even Vishnuji had to pay a heavy price for Jay, Vijay. He had to take birth specially to stop their crime & punish them. Even he had to suffer as Ram along with his consort.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Beautiful Meena.
As you mentioned, Jay and Vijay knowingly stopped the sanat kumara brothers from worshiping Lord Vishnu and even in their re-births both did the crime knowing about it.
So Vishnu took the avatars to punish them.
Very well connected the dots.

Yes, Vishnu came to earth to give mokthi to his true devotees without considering about him and he suffered in return 😊

But for his Krishna avatar, Dantavakra's crime is not highlighted. If you are aware, can you share the story of Dantavakra?


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Dantavaktra and shishupal were jarasandh'so ally. After jarasandh was killed by bheem, Dantavaktra hated pandva too
After hearing about shishupal's death he attacked krishna with mace without wearing an armour
He too like shishupal hated krishna.
Both were related to krishna.
Kumbhkarna's crime wasn't much like Ravan
Similarly dantavaktra was lesser sinner compared to shishupal. Both hadays to return to vaikunth after finishing 3 births.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Meena: Thanks for sharing the story about dantavaktra.
This matches with what I came across. I heard that only jaya argued with kumara brothers and vijaya supported jaya. So apart from hiranyaksh, Kumbhakarna and dantavaktra didn't have direct enmity with Ram and krishna. So their death was not as brutal as Ravan and Shishupal.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Beautiful post Minaxi...

Thanks for sharing
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Krishna_Sourav

Beautiful post Minaxi...


Thanks for sharing


Thanks 😊
Its a coincident, Jay, Vijay's convo with Vishnuji was shown in tonight's epi.
How one event leads to chain of events, cycle of birth & rebirth is another lesson Ramayan teaches us.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Minaxi Agree ...yes its..our Mythos give us lesson to learn for life time if we from them it will be huge help
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thanks Meena. Dantavakra even I didnt know. Yes even if you are close to Vishnu, you cannot take ownership of Vishnu or decide who should meet him or who should not.
But interestingly Meena isnt that what happens in many temples today. The so called priests and administration deciding who will meet the Lord. Especially in famous temples like Thirupathi
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Welcome shruthi.
Your observation is so true. May be Jay, Vijay exists even in Kaliyuga. Now in form of so called agents, who will give quick darshan for money. It happens in many big temples.

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