SKR-Of loops and symbolisms#5: Hard way and Smart Way : P.88 - Page 101

A good episode showing a lot of emotion , tension on many of the Ayodhya palace dwellers !

@vipraja certain things you know and Vashistha himself says you cant change fate, but with timely action can reduce the impact. Yes we all can do that. Vashisth is thinking from Raghukul perspective. Sita's action will be a blemish in Raghukul and it will be taken for centuries.

Yes Jeena kind of. But want to see whether it will play like that. Because at this point for me Maya is linked with Hanuman. There is a dialogue in the past where Ram says Hanuman is like Bharath for him. 😃. Anybody who was reading symbolism thread from beginning can do the guess work now.

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

17/10/2016

Where should I start today's analysis. It was Ram the husband in the palace in front of Praja. But in each and every affirmative lines of his was Ram the king. The king who has to give justice to a woman. A woman whom he knows is pure yet called impure by the society. Punished by the society for no fault of hers.

First go back. Go back to Dasrath going to Vashisth. Guru tell me a way to get son. I need a son, I need a son. Then Vashisth tells about Putrakamesthi and the way to conduct it. Bring Rishisringa to Grihasthashrama by sending girls of Ayodhya. In the name of goodness for Raghukul a king starts doing adharma to the girls of his kingdom. Just like the ghee and other ingredients poured in the agni for the Putrakamesthi yajna the simple dreams of the girls of Ayodhya including that of his own daughter is poured into Agni throwing them away to bring Rishisringa. Forcing them to cross the line of maryada to lure a rishi or rather seduce a rishi will be the better word.

It is in that fire of burnt dreams Narayan comes as Dasrath's son while his better half Mahalakshmi choses Mithila as her birth place. Note the point Ram is born in a fire while Sita comes from earth.

Cut to MB. Drupada does Yajna to get a son to kill Drona. The son comes along but with son comes a daughter Panchali. The woman born out of fire. Aag se janmi. She was born out of a man's need to take revenge. And the fire inside her demands justice finally burning the Kuruvansh.

Now Bhumija is complete Gauri. She is born from earth. But if justice has to be delivered she has to be born out of fire. AP gives her the rebirth. She comes through fire unscathed just like a rebirth. This woman is the one who is discarded by Ayodhya who has come out of fire. Aag se janmi will always demand justice. Doesn't matter the price. She will demand it.

So Ram was born after Dasrath running behind Vashisth. Today Vashisth comes to the palace. Ram after seeing Sita going in dream runs around telling something is going to happen to Sita. Vashisth tells don't bring Sita now. It is not going to be good for Raghukul. He has to think with detachment, not with attachment.

But Ram is adamant on the decision to bring Sita telling it cannot be delayed any further. Why. Why he says it cannot be delayed further. Reason is now a beautiful perception is created in everyone's mind. That if they tell sorry Sita will come back. The same perception society gave the girls, Shanta and of course Sita that they are Goddess. And then when need came brutally discarded them. Any delay in bringing in Sita that time , that feeling will be gone. Hari needs that perception completely so that it can be broken brutally.

Now the queens. How Kausalya tells Vashisth has told Luv-Kush can be bought but not Sita. Sita is living with her kids. Kids are her last hope. If you take them and tell she can stay in ashrama when time comes Ram will come. It again exposes the hypocrisy of the society. Child is needed, heir is needed not the mother who gave birth. Children belong to Raghukul. Remember Kausalya telling Dasrath ask Shanta to stop. Dasrath doesn't listen. Today she tells don't bring Sita. Ram is in no mood to heed. He has taken the decision.

Now he goes and shows his desperation to Hanuman to complete the drama. I have seen bad dream. Protect Sita. Hanuman says even if earth breaks up he will protect Sita. We need to see what is the protection Hanuman is going to give Sita . That line has double meaning. And the next instant shows Ram determined with the line Sita will get justice. There is no desperation in his face.

When they come out Praja wants to come. Ram tells they will come to palace. But Praja insist. He says come. I loved that subtle smile. Drama complete look of Lord Maha Vishnu. Now only curtain has to be lifted for the final act.

Vashisth says the impact of his decision he wont be able to withstand. Yes how can a loving husband withstand what he is going to witness, for that matter how can a loving wife do what she is intending to do. But dharma, justice is ultimate. Most probably we will see the battle of Sita the wife and Sita the woman tomorrow.

Now coming to Sita. She asks Vachan from her sisters that her kids will be taken care of. Once again I loved the way Mandavi analyzed Luv and Kush. Luv is like Ram, Kush is like Sita. Exactly the way I felt. Now coming to Vachan. Remember the vachan Shanta asked the brothers. That they should always be together. Else people will tell Shanta's sacrifice was not true. Today Sita asks a similar vachan from her sisters for her kids. That they will be taken care of. They will not feel her absence. Brother's stood together on the basis of vachan given to their sister which started the journey of justice for Shanta. Today when another sister took the vachan for the welfare of her kids that journey is completing the circle. The sisters decide to do something for Sita and they make her Sita on a swing. Sita says she is reminded of Mithila. Sisters think of the time they were together. Sita indicates otherwise. When she had come from earth. When there was nothing. Time has come to go back to the place where she has come. She came to earth accepting a culture, she will go from earth rejecting a culture changing it forever.

@aayushi this is where illusion comes in. Breaking the rule without actually breaking it. Remember Vanvass. Between an aged and ailing Dasrath and Kaikeyi's Vachans, Ram did the dharma of choosing the vachan over sitting beside his father and looking at him. Because Lord has to give Kaikeyi her boons, she cannot be denied that, how much ever pain it gives to Dasrath. That day it was actually a duty bound son. But underneath Ram had hit at Kaikeyi's Mahatwakamsha. If Ram had listened to Dasrath, Kaikeyi and Manthara might have succeeded in manipulating Bharath. End result warring brothers. But him bowing down to kaikeyi bought stability to Ayodhya as Kaikeyi was taken care of by Bharath. That day also Ram doesn't listen to Vashisth other rishis who tell him he need not go for vanvass. It is foolishness and adharma will win. He stuck to his stand. Because he knew Bharath and what Bharath is capable of.

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@aayushi this is where illusion comes in. Breaking the rule without actually breaking it. Remember Vanvass. Between an aged and ailing Dasrath and Kaikeyi's Vachans, Ram did the dharma of choosing the vachan over sitting beside his father and looking at him. Because Lord has to give Kaikeyi her boons, she cannot be denied that, how much ever pain it gives to Dasrath. That day it was actually a duty bound son. But underneath Ram had hit at Kaikeyi's Mahatwakamsha. If Ram had listened to Dasrath, Kaikeyi and Manthara might have succeeded in manipulating Bharath. End result warring brothers. But him bowing down to kaikeyi bought stability to Ayodhya as Kaikeyi was taken care of by Bharath. That day also Ram doesn't listen to Vashisth other rishis who tell him he need not go for vanvass. It is foolishness and adharma will win. He stuck to his stand. Because he knew Bharath and what Bharath is capable of.

Now here also same. For him justice of Sita is important while others are thinking about Raghukul. So now he becomes the desperate husband and father who wants his wife and kids back. He knows Sita. He knows what she is capable of. What she will do. Just like he allowed Bharath to cleanse the palace, he is allowing Sita to seek not only her justice but also justice for other woman.

if you look SKR we can see Ram has broken many rules creating the illusion of adhering to them.

Shruti di I have not read the thread completely yet. Now am enjoying watching old epis that I have missed previously. So I am unable to guess. But u will give analysis on upcoming epis. So samjhjaunga sayad.😆

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Shruthi, its nice analysis, missed some previous episodes, but watched yesterday,

Shruthi, after seeing Dream Ram mind disturbed, or Guru Vashisth, knows what going to happen, next so he wants, some time Sita bringing back decision, postponed.

But please clear, me Why Ram, taking decision,,little opposite, from His Guru +Mom words.

Because we all know Guru +parents words more matters for Ram.

Hi Charvi Di long time no see. How are u?
Desitny and choice well said 👍🏼