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Kopabhavan was all I could see today. Posting analysis soon
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

17/10/2016

Now Bhumija is complete Gauri. She is born from earth. But if justice has to be delivered she has to be born out of fire. AP gives her the rebirth. She comes through fire unscathed just like a rebirth. This woman is the one who is discarded by Ayodhya who has come out of fire. Aag se janmi will always demand justice. Doesn't matter the price. She will demand it.

This is another interesting perspective to agnipariksha shruthi Di

Now he goes and shows his desperation to Hanuman to complete the drama. I have seen bad dream. Protect Sita. Hanuman says even if earth breaks up he will protect Sita. We need to see what is the protection Hanuman is going to give Sita . That line has double meaning. And the next instant shows Ram determined with the line Sita will get justice. There is no desperation in his face.

Well this is covincing yet I feel there is something to the scene which we might understand after bhoomipravesh. Connect with bharat it makes sense a lot of sense let's see.

When they come out Praja wants to come. Ram tells they will come to palace. But Praja insist. He says come. I loved that subtle smile. Drama complete look of Lord Maha Vishnu. Now only curtain has to be lifted for the final act.

Today's precap was all the more interesting ram asks forgiveness for ayodha. His leela 😆

Vashisth says the impact of his decision he wont be able to withstand. Yes how can a loving husband withstand what he is going to witness, for that matter how can a loving wife do what she is intending to do. But dharma, justice is ultimate. Most probably we will see the battle of Sita the wife and Sita the woman tomorrow.

It's tough really tough but yes justice is ultimate😭

Now coming to Vachan. Remember the vachan Shanta asked the brothers. That they should always be together. Else people will tell Shanta's sacrifice was not true. Today Sita asks a similar vachan from her sisters for her kids. That they will be taken care of. They will not feel her absence. Brother's stood together on the basis of vachan given to their sister which started the journey of justice for Shanta. Today when another sister took the vachan for the welfare of her kids that journey is completing the circle.

Loop closed👏

Sita indicates otherwise. When she had come from earth. When there was nothing. Time has come to go back to the place where she has come. She came to earth accepting a culture, she will go from earth rejecting a culture changing it forever.

She who had come from Earth goes back to earth. She who was swayam Prakriti was born without a mother become jaganmata.


I was just reminded of this scene. Remember during marriage when yagnayalkya says 36 qualities match. The brothers of sunaina state their marriage will either reach heights of happiness or sorrow. Ram shuts them off that qualities are just an indication. Yet does this scene play out somewhere here shruthi Di
I loved ur reply to ayushi it seems ram has set the goal of justice for Sita here and I feel here the decision of ram was difficult emotionally while vanvas was something that was taken from the mind adhering to duty . Can u differentiate the conflict of duty ram faced?
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18/10/2016

Guys today's journey we will have to go somewhat backwards. From the meeting of Bharat with Kaikeyi to the Kopabhavan. It is a reverse journey.

Let us start with Bharat meeting Kaikeyi. See where does Kaikeyi go wrong there. In understanding her son. What he will feel when he knows his father is no more and his elder brother with his wife and younger brother has gone for vanvas for 14 years. He has one sis-in-law who is left forlorn in the palace. What will be the emotions. Before he could understand why his mother did what she did, the emotions are all over the place for Bharat. It is after meeting everyone he comes to meet Kaikeyi and finally does her sacrifice, accepting her after 14 years when Ram comes back.

Now what Kaikeyi faced, Ram faced with Luv-Kush. Just like Bharat who had emotions all over the place, what the boys hear is Sita is banished. They are angry. They don't want explanation. They want justice. They go for war. Once they know Ram is their father they decide to sacrifice him as he has put their mother into so much trouble.

Just like Bharat didn't know what happened between Dasrath and Kaikeyi and keeps only his mother responsible for the mess as his father is no more, Luv-Kush doesn't understand what happened between Ram and Sita, how Sita's love for golden deer has resulted in all the mess and Ram in his love for his wife trying to chase it. They hold only Ram responsible for the whole mess.

Now where does Siyaram wins over where Dasrath-Kaikeyi failed. It was more of ego for Dasrath and Kaikeyi. Aapka ram nahin, mera bharath. They bartered on the kids. They fought on the name of kids.

Siya Ram not once Sita speaks ill about their father to Luv-Kush. Problem between them was their problem. But the fact that Ram is their father cannot be changed was Sita's approach, whereas when Kaikeyi says Mera Bharath she denies the paternity to Dasrath.

Now Ram it is not the kids going to the father. But it is the father who goes to the kids and tells what he did with their mother was wrong. But as a king he didn't had any option. He had to give in to what Praja wants and accept. He had tried in every way to avoid banishment and he asks the forgiveness of the kids. He accepts his fault to the children, which Kaikeyi doesn't do when Bharath comes. She tries to justify her act, which angers him. If you see throughout his interaction with Luv-Kush Ram had never tried to justify his decision. The kids finally accept their father. We have to give it to Sita for her upbringing for this to happen. The kids telling they are angry because of what happened to their mother and not them. Yes Luv-Kush suffered in childhood. But now in their good age that is teenage and youth they have a better chance of living their life with wealth and power unlike Ram and brothers who had to waste the best years of their youth in Vanvass and lack of family life. And Ram another 12 years staying away from his family. The core of the problem lied in his father's multiple marriage with his mother unable to assert her rights and his step mother demanding her rights. Ram's ek patni vratha solves the problem to great extend.

Sita's dilemma with her sisters. Ram has sacrificed her. She has no rights as a wife. Same thing happens with Kaikeyi. When Sita accepts the reality of the situation, once all her demands met Kaikeyi comes calling " Maharaj I have come". She doesn't accept the parityaag Dasrath did before his death. But Sita knows where he stands with the relation with Ram.

Now Ram's walk to Sita's parnakudi. The closed door reminded me of Sita calling Raghunandan before she was banished. Ram's slow walk and the FB showed that flower. Will Sita open the door. Now more than the closed door on Sita's banishment, Ram's walk reminded me of Dasrath's walk towards Kopabhavan.

There is lot of difference between Kaikeyi in Kopabhavan and Sita's symbolic Kopabhavan. Kaikeyi stood like a widow in Kopabhavan. But Sita though she says Ram has sacrificied her the symbol of being a married woman she still wears. She has tied her hair and she has sindoor in her maang, showing clearly Ram is still her pride. Now Dasrath is irritated when he approaches Kopabhavan. What does Kaikeyi wants. But Ram understands his wife is angry, very much angry for what had happened to her.

Remember before going to Kopabhavan Dasrath wanted to reward Kaikeyi for accepting Ram's coronation. But the boons Kaikeyi asks turns everything upside down. Here also Ram has come to take Sita. Asking her a chance. To correct the law. To redraw the line. But she doesn't show her face to him. Talks with her face away, telling it was difficult for her when the kids asked their father's name. And if you look Kaikeyi keeps the brutal demands looking straight at Dasrath. Sita cannot do that. If she looks into the eyes of her beloved Sita the wife will win over, Sita the woman stands no chance. Precap shows just like Dasrath telling Kaikeyi don't send Ram to vanvass, Ram is also begging Sita. More loops closing.

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Posted: 8 years ago
To redraw the line what was that shruthi Di.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Sanju redraw the line even I am not clear at this point, but my feel is it is there. Hope CVs wont disappoint me
Coming to 36 matches, that also I will put hopefully in the coming days. Now the story is moving backwards, closing loops.
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Posted: 8 years ago
I saw ur post in ashish AT just now. Hope u will be able to connect it in the upcoming episode😃
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Your comparison of present situation and actions with past is fabulous. The closed door of Sita's kutir also reminded me of closed door of Ayodha. Father and sons conversation is very beautifully shown. You said it right Ram-Siya are and were in same situation in their life as their parents but it is their decision and behavior which made them different and divine.

I also liked when Ram refused Hanuman every time ti accompany him bcz he wanted to face the truth himself solve the blunder himself take the responsibility on him self showing that every persin should take their own responsibility and if anything wrong is done then took that responsibility without anyone's support.

He also said to Siya that he knows people will always question him for his brutal decision and he also want that .
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Yes Jeena good or bad you have to own your actions. Closure of past can be bought only by owning your actions.
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Updated Chapter 107 Seven Vows
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4704864&TPN=61&#p137876268
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Posted: 8 years ago
Beautiful post Shruthi di 👍🏼
Kk Dashrat, Siya Ram - the comparison, the loop closure was beautiful!!

Shruthi di what I liked the most in this episode was when Ram said he knows the world will blame him and he's ready to accept that.

Infact that's the beauty of Ram. Of course he is God but why he came on earth in a human form? Why he hid his divinity or chose to forget his divinity? So that he sets an example for us. And with this act of repentance and acceptance and even mending of situations in whatever way possible , he stands tall yet again.
Ram himself laments about his fate, n his actions of following Raj dharma which finally led to Sita's banishment. But he just doesn't sit and keep lamenting. He fights it out, fights hard to give Sita back her dignity. And finally changes the rules of the society...
And this way of handling the worse situations without losing hope is what makes him Maryada Purushottam.

I know people believe that God is perfect, but for me what makes them perfect is their way of handling the imperfect situations.

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