SKR:OF LOOPS AND SYMBOLISMS #4: 1/08: updated on pg. 132 - Page 32

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Posted: 9 years ago
What an episode. First 4 pillars. Then once again Shanta. Oh man I cant but applaud everytime the CVs beautifully connect this theme. Posting analysis soon
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What an episode today. First let me start with the story of Jay-Vijay. See how many sons of Brahma comes to meet Vishnu. 4. Once again knowledge, wealth , power and moksha. And why does Jaya-Vijaya gets the curse. Because in their need to do duty, they prevented the Bhakts from meeting Narayan. And what is the curse. That they will be born in earth so that they understand how difficult it is to reach Narayan. Was Jaya-Vijaya doing anything wrong. If you look theortically nothing wrong. But if you look from Narayan's perspective they did wrong. In the name of duty they prevented Bhakts from reaching him. Lord Narayana is always available for his Bhakts. Even though well intended preventing Bhakts from reaching Narayana was a mistake and they showed a lack of knowledge there. But the Bhakts what did they do. They used the power of Bhakthi to curse them. So we need to understand whenever we display lack of knowledge that action succumbs to power one way or the other. Knowledge is the one that protects you from power.

If you compare Jaya-Vijaya to modern world we can see people like them in all religious places who feels they own the God and others has to obey the rules set by them. Keeping money for different routes to reach God. The one with money can reach faster and the other without money will have to take longer route. And what does lack of money really means. It means lack of knowledge. So the queue is longer and your time to reach God is also longer not because of money, but because of knowledge. It is different when you choose not to pay the greedy people and instead take the long route that is freewill. My analysis is when you don't have money to pay and are forced to take longer route.

Now the options given. Why does Vishnu says 7 births for Bhakts to reach him and 3 birth for enemy to reach him. And why does Jaya chooses the second option. This is where Jaya displays knowledge. First and the foremost if he is an enemy God has to come to him, no matter what to destroy him. But as a Bhakt he has to go to God. Now the real meaning of that choice by Vishnu. What does Vishnu stands for. Sustenance. How does he sustains. Breaking the Sanskriti that are harmful to Prakriti and setting new Sanskriti aligned with Prakriti . This process of change has to happen continuously for Prakriti and Sanskriti to thrive in collaboration. How does breaking of Sanskriti happen. Only through enemies. Enemies misuse Purusharth, uses all the privileges given by Sanskriti for their happiness. And people reach a stage where they feel they want a change. And by killing the adharmis Vishnu kills that harmful Sanskriti and re-establish Sanskriti in line with Prakriti.

A Bhakth does not give Vishnu that privilege. They come to him. He makes Vishnu's task harder to bring change. Look at Ayodhya. Destroying Lanka was not a big deal for Ram, but destroying the culture of Ayodhya is. So it will take a Bhakth 7 births to understand this truth of change. Only then they can go to him.

If you look at the movie Oh my God also you will see this principle. Krishna comes Paresh Rawal's character. Because that man needs proof of God's existence. He started questioning God and none of the Godmen could stand against him and his case. So it is always better to go to God with a aesthetic mind. You will reach him faster. Because he has to come to you to give your proof that he exists. And only you can be a medium for the change he very much wants.

Now let us come to Parvati- Sita. Parvati said 2 beautiful dialogues to Sita. One what I am , that is you. It was a message to every woman from the divine mother. In every woman she exists, her powers exists and every woman can do all the roles she does . From the loving Gowri to destructive kali. She only need to realize which role she is playing and based on the situations she has to switch between any of the roles or powers that she is bestowed with. And this knowledge of the existence of divine powers and its appropriate use is important for the woman. She needs to understand herself. She needs to understand when she is constructive, when she is destructive. Many woman don't understand it and when we don't understand ourselves we cannot hand hold the next generation in the right direction. Our failure as mothers is a loss of generation.

Now Parvati says another beautiful dialogue with man a woman is Gowri, without him she is Kali. You have to go beyond the literal meaning of this dialogue. In literal sense it may mean a married woman is a Gowri , an unmarried one Kali. No. Marriage doesn't guarantee she will be Gowri. For that a man has to treat her part of her just like Shiv treats Shakthi. She should not be kept confined against her wishes. She has to be loved and respected. From a woman's perspective she needs to love and respect her husband and understand her real power is him. She is expressing through him. She becomes carrier of life through him. If anything of this doesn't happen a married woman can also be a Kali.

So is being Kali bad. No. If she has a strong Gowri inside her and her destructive power is directed towards the right cause then no issue. But it is the absence of Gowri that creates the problem. Even Durga comes as a single woman to destroy Mahisasur

Every single woman destroys something or the another. It can be a set of traditions, rules and many other things. But single status of women is towards the destruction of existing systems.

Now look at Kaikasi. What is she. She is Kali. A woman who was left by her husband because of her thirst for power. She has created a kingdom by destroying and it will destroy itself through another woman her daughter who is also a Kali.

Now the most interesting part. Shanta. Whenever Shanta was shown have we ever seen her husband. Answer is no. She is more or less in a abandoned state. She looks Gowri. But who is she actually. She is Kali. She is a lonely woman. She knows her condition will bring destruction, so she asks the brother's to be together so that the pretense of being Gowri can be taken forward.

Now who is Sita. In Lanka she becomes Kali. And in Ayodhya Ram ensures she becomes Kali by separating her form him. Because to destroy the existing system of Ayodhya he needs the Kali form of Sita. But Gowri in Sita is strong that's why Luv-Kush are raised properly by her. The thirst of Shanta's Kali is quenched by Sita's Kali who has both Gowri and Kali in her. She only destroys the things Ram wants to destroy and uses her constructive powers to re construct things.

Edited by shruthiravi - 9 years ago
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Hello, guys! I am just going to touch on one point and my theme, for everyone has taken the good points and have made wonderful analyses out of them! Enjoy!

Maa Parvati, after arriving in the Ashoka Vatika, tries to make Sita understand her reality through riddles, but the intelligent Sita, whose mind is clouded by sorrow, can not understand her. Parvati Maa then places her thumb on Sita's forehead, and Sita is transported to her past as Maa Lakshmi. Why did Parvati Maa specifically place her thumb on the place where we Indian women place our bindi? Because that is the place where Shiva's third eye is situated. And what does Shiva's third eye represent? The third eye represents a new perception, a whole new dimension of thinking. Your two physical eyes are just sensory organs. They perceive the world as you need to perceive it for survival. That is why the world is Maya or illusory. Because our way of perceiving it is illusory. And when you get past that mindset, and your third eye opens, it means you see life just the way it is. And that is what happens with Sita, she sees her life as what it really is, a medium through which the whole world will be free from the clutches of Adharma.

The theme of today's episode is rebirth. Lord Vishnu was reborn as Narasimha, Ram, and Krishna. Maa Lakshmi was reborn as Sita. Jaya was reborn as Ravan. Vijaya was reborn as Kumbhakaran. And Sita was reborn, from a lifeless corpse to a woman with a purpose. This episode taught me that human life is very valuable. Our souls are always transmigrating to a different body after our death, and our Karma decides which body we can go into. And there are many to choose from- insects, animals, plant, the options are many. So, whoever gets the human body must have done some good deeds in their previous lives. And why is getting the human body lucky? It is our only chance to read and understand our holy scriptures. It is our only chance to pray and meditate. And it is our only chance to reunite with God. So please, do not waste this golden opportunity gifted by God, it only comes once every few lifetimes. And I wouldn't want to wait that long to meet my Lord again. Would you?




Edited by shabari14 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
I was wondering a lot of things.
The balance of energy was superb.Universe is nothing but balance of energy,energy which you cant deny,the reason of existence.I always wonder how would have been energy created,I guess most of us do.
AdiShakti is known to be this universal energy,energy with all sorts of vibes,constructive,protective,destructive all.Maa is the perfect blend of all paradoxic energies contained in one form.A similar thing,balance is the key.There is one true self and an equally other self for a particular situation.At times,she is wisdom,the next she is curiosity.Prakriti.Composure is her power.There is her emotional self,next is her challenging abilities.With Trijata,one time she's Maya,next she's a mother.The reason everything and everyone is being fixed for a
right purpose,time and place.

Sita wuld realise herself.She is no victim.She must have overthought a lot 😆yes,like us.Koi hume bhi aake aise shaanti de deta.But I guess hum itne mahaan log hai ki swayam Bhagwan bhi kuchh na kar paye.😆😆
I have found my way to peace,DD apna socho😆
Coming back,Sita must have felt so good mentally,haina?
Res for now...
I still have to watch it!
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Posted: 9 years ago
There was a dialogue,"Jab stree purush ke saath hoti hai toh vah Gowri kehlaati hai aur jab akele,tab Kali"
Has some CV crossed this thread's way?😆


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Posted: 9 years ago
Updated. Mili CVs would have read this thread for sure. I know CVs does go through India forums and often to see fans comments.
@Mili she comes maybe not the way we expects, expect her in the right way. What does Sita ask. Give her direction and she comes to give direction and peace.
Singini does not understand her, so she becomes Maya.
Edited by shruthiravi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
Rightly analyzed Shruthi Di.
Especially the Shanta part❤️
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Posted: 9 years ago

Wonderful episode 👏👏
Divine beyond words ⭐️

Today Parvati told Sita "jo main hoon woh aap hain" and this the ultimate reality ..
We all are same whatever maybe our cast , Color , creed , we all are petty entities of the whole universe, aatma is a small part of the parmatma ...
Every woman has a Parvati, Lakshmi nd Sarawati within her nd every man has a Shiva, Vishnu , Brahma within them ... just we need to manifest their nature in us nd invoke these qualities acc to our situations...

I always used to think we have a Ram nd a Ravan within us, but after today's episode I realise how wrong was I ... All of us are parts of the Parmatma.. In all our hearts God dwells.. As even Ravan was Jaya , Vishnu's gatekeeper in his prev life, thus existence of Ravan is nothing, even Ravan is a part of Vishnu... Then what makes us different, it's our arrogance of seeing ourselves as superiors , arrogance of knowing everything about God.. And in an urge to establish our superiority of knowing everything about God we forget to respect another person , who has a God within him... Jay Vijay didn't respect the Bhakta who came to meet Vishnu, insult of a bhakt is insult of Vishnu himself as even Bhakt has a Vishnu within him.. Still Vishnu took everything upon himself, for his bhakts , that's what makes him Parmatma and the others as mere Aatmas...

I have seen people discriminating, murdering, torturing other people in the name of God's, but they forget that everyone is a part of God nd disrespecting any individual is disrespecting God himself...
Why is that sometimes even Atheist lead a peaceful life.. one who doesn't believe in God, why God doesn't punish them? Because more than Himself he is concerned about his creations, his children, us...
So we should respect an individual as every person is a part of that greater power (which is beyond our imagination) , every one has a God within them.. which makes all of us equal, the difference arises in the way we invoke the God within us ...
Edited by aditi97 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: LakshMila

There was a dialogue,"Jab stree purush ke saath hoti hai toh vah Gowri kehlaati hai aur jab akele,tab Kali"

Has some CV crossed this thread's way?😆



🤣 koi shaq? 😎 its better they give credits otherwise i'll sue them for copyright infringement 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
WOW aditi what a way to summarize today's episode. Whatever we are it is because of her karma. When the karma gets cleansed, atma's reach paramatma.
@DD I read your take. Once again same thoughts, but different perspective.

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