The play of destiny... Sita? - Page 3

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

I felt Rama's argument that this is for universal welfare was out of place!! Only because, I didn't hear that argument from him before.

Rama did it only for the promise of his father. Just checked Valmiki Ramayan too. Never once he mentions about humanity's welfare. He only speaks about his father's promise that needs to be kept at all costs.

If Rama was to say these words of his destiny, that is the easy way out. He always knew his destiny. Did he even once behave like that? Never. Rama always went around as a normal human being who knew his dharma and its rightful place. The one thing he knew was he had to follow it. As a prince, he felt that he has a responsibility to lead from the front so that he sets a good example for the commoners. Saying that it is for 'Vishwa Kalyan' would also mean he is not doing it just for Satya and vachan-palan. The way the argument was articulated today by Rama was that - "ok Satya and vachan-palan are hurting everyone but this is not just for Ayodhya's welfare but lok kalyan'. Since lok kalyan is more important, I have to do this. That would mean Satya and keeping his father's words are less important. He would never mean that(By Valmiki Ramayan).

This would have been more relatable if it was Sri Krishna donning his viswaroopam. Rama never did that. He never acted as if he is above everyone.

Since he is fixed on his father's promise, In Valmiki Ramayan, Vashishta says that he is like a father to Rama by virtue of being a Guru and Rama should obey his command. Even then Rama says that he cannot go back on his father's order. That was what Rama stood for. To lead from the front on Satya and Dharma.

Truth is in convictions. And when a person compromises on truth, he loses integrity. Even today the value hasn't changed. Truth leads to commitment. The concept of surety in loans, signing contracts, promisory notes, making promises in general all ride on truth and commitment. If a king's son known for his sadachar and sheela goes back, what of others?

Play of destiny is in a different plane. Sita does say to Rama in Valmiki Ramayan that she was told by yogini that she has to do vanavas(they didnt show her saying that to Rama in SKR). This is when she is trying to convince him to take her with him. Hence Sita knew her destiny in some way. But Rama never behaved that way.

Current actions shape future destiny. Also past actions shape current. What we experience in present is a mix of fruits of past karmas and our current resolve. Rama knew all this. He just went with the flow knowing what he knew best. His Dharma.

Originally posted by: Ami25

I believe karma are more important than anything else. You get salvation because of your karma not because of anyone'e blessings. You can have a blesed life but salvation is solely based on your karma. Karma is everything if you ask me. niyati destiny who knows ?? The only thing that make sense to me is law of action and reaction. Sita went with rama because she decided to do that. her actio resulted in ravan vadh. I wouldnt waste my time thinking it was predestined.

Originally posted by: TwinMadness

Sita is very much the play of destiny. She is Bhumija. She loved the laps of nature. A loop opened the day Sita was shown as the girl in love with nature. The loop is now closed as her love for nature seals the deal for her, she happily goes to the forest, living in the laps of a mother, doing her pati-vrata duties.

Each time the Lord needs to bring down evil, He needs His Shakti. Ram and Sita Ma, Krishna and Rukmini-Bhama. When the Lord comes to give justice to the world, the Mother comes down too, whether in a single form as Sita or in multiple forms as Rukmini and Bhama, and help the Lord accomplish his goal. Like how Shiva cannot be without His Shakti, neither can Narayan.

So yes, Sita is very much the play of destiny. The reason of Ram's birth was fulfilled by Sita apharan.

Originally posted by: aditi97

Thank u for ur contribution

My post was actually based on the events that took place in SKR.. The show seems not to be following Valmiki version completely.. Seems like a culmination of various version and the ideas from the show's creative heads as well... But until they uphold the dignity of Ram and Sita and other characters I am OK with it ..

Ram's argument with Jabali was what actually Bharat milap had in Valmiki Ramayana (correct me if I am wrong)... It was more about Dharam palan and following Satya.. Jabali had stopped with this..

But yesterday Bharat took the debate to another level by saying as a prince it's also his Dharam to take up the responsibility of his kingdom.. Ram had to counter it with greater reason, which he stated as the ultimate truth ..

Personally I didn't feel Putra Dharam and vachan palan took a back seat here, his 2nd argument of lok kalyan was just to support his first one..

Even here Ram doesn't seem to know his destiny, but he knows that while following his Dharm, he would fulfill the real purpose of his life...

Completely agree with what u said about Sita