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shruthiravi thumbnail
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Posted: 9 years ago
Hemaji so nice to see you here. You are watching SKR. Please do post in the forum. How much I miss your posts.
I have kind of safely settled here as no TRP aunty can twist Ramayana beyond a point. And so far the show is a nice watch and is giving a pleasant feeling.
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Posted: 9 years ago
Yes Shruthi ,started watching from ram sita suyamvar.
Me too felt so releived that this story cant be changed though they may add some stories extra.
thatsy started following. Fed up with TRP aunties show 🤢

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Posted: 9 years ago

Hi all, sorry for being MIA last 2 days.. too much work plus passport renewal

DD- Thank you so much for adding to the introductions. I hope I can remember all the names with their IDs and their characteristics as described by you. Everyone please give me some time and please forgive me if I mix u up or get confused about your names, etc.

Shruthi - How was the ethnic day at your office? Enjoyed? I have read all your posts and would reply to them in separate posts if I think I want to add something or give my opinions or ask any clarifications.

Fouzia - I am like you too. I am also not comfortable sharing too much about myself on a public platform like IF. Reason is also the same - bitter experiences.

Aditi - no. I came across IF during a show on colors - mukti bandhan. I contributed a v little bit to that forum and when the show ended, I forgot all about IF. Then KTLK started and I came back and got totally hooked. I have also written a few FFs and a beautiful OS (My best work so far on the fictional side - please forgive my immodesty)

All others - I loved your beautiful analysis and will quote you if I need to add or ask anything

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Posted: 9 years ago
Yaa Shirley it was fun with my team. Since there was competition between teams on best ethinic dressed team we took quite a few snaps for the same. But my only problem was I didn't get time during lunch hr as there was work. Usually lunch hr is the time your eyes roam around and watch all the sarees, color combos, new trends etc etc.. 😆😆 so that I can plan my next purchase 😃
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Posted: 9 years ago
Absolutely enjoying the deep thoughts and different perspectives put forth by each of you !
Not sure if the cvs have such stream of thoughts aas they pen down the screenplay but sure is very interesting to read and ponder over.

Shruti, the angavastra symbolising Luv Kush was good .

Sure Ram sita moments are poctuirised to be used as the flashback thoughts for both of them during the Apaharan period but your interpretation was quite a deep. Symbolism.

Lakshman Urmila , Bharat Shatrughan were all well played by the actors .

Regarding Sabarimala, as mentioned by many memebers. Here, it is the faith of the devotees to stay away for the said period of time ( for women ) without any complaints .
Those screaming out are mostly those who care less for either the real faith or devotion !





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Posted: 9 years ago

Guys there is something beyond logic and explanation and that is the faith and belief. For everything we shouldn't ask for proof. (It is not science but a matter related to mind, heart & soul.) Why its banned? what happens if one ventures etc. No the shrine may not lose anything but the one who ventured just to prove his or her audacity will lose their mental peace as the thought will keep haunting their consciousness always and even with some minor problem or setback or harm, they will end up relating the cause as their misplaced faith. No God may not even think to punish the one who went against the faith (like they show it in many movies) but their own conscious is more than enough to punish them.

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Posted: 9 years ago
@jaya I believe everything is science. But what people forget about science is anything new in science starts with an assumption. Assumption can be proven right or wrong. But as you rightly said even if you have to analyze for your mental peace it is always better to take the faith or larger belief as true. And if you ask the right questions, are willing to search for the answer with complete surrender and humility the logical, rational reason will open in front of you. This has happened to me many times. Simple thing is draping a saree. My mom was very particular whether for my engagement, day before marriage or party I will be in sarees only. I was feeling a bit down because many of my friends wore laches, ghagras etc for engagement, parties etc. But yes I did wear sarees only as expected by her. But over the period I realized why saree. It is simple. Saree is my culture. Kanchivaram sarees are part of the culture I grew up. When I drape the saree I am taking forward that culture. If I don't take forward my culture who else will take forward. If I don't pride myself in my culture respecting who else will respect it. Yes from that time I started seeing sarees, traditional jewellery etc part of my culture and when I explain these things to my younger nieces and cousins in the language of culture they feel connected and they want to take it forward.
Same is the case with everything. But now the problem is we are seeing everything through the lens of some pre determined things and half knowledge and things are blown out of proportion
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: jhema

Yes Shruthi ,started watching from ram sita suyamvar.

Me too felt so releived that this story cant be changed though they may add some stories extra.
thatsy started following. Fed up with TRP aunties show 🤢


Welcome to the thread hema ji 🤗
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Posted: 9 years ago
SIYA KE RAM- 13/04-
HALF KNOWLEDGE


The episode is mind blowing...
Hai na shruthi??? 😳

after a very long time i had goosebumps throughout the episode...

today i really don't know if am that eligible to comment on the writing or not. shayad meri utni aukat nahi hai.

today i could only give a standing ovation to the writers. whatta screenplay!!!!! EPIC!!!!

am so deeply touched that now expect one long post from me today...😆

i guess i talked of roles and equations change day before yday... or maybe before that... bharat-shatrughna-mandvi...

today it continues and so fluidly...👏

savita cmn to lakshman sita previous scene... its in continuation.. and its about bond development... its like placing bricks one by one and building a castle...

rem it was lakshman who first met sita. if ram had sensed sita through the cloth tied to the horse, it was lakshman who saw someone like his brother, someone who had helped his brother indirectly. someone whom he unintentionally impulsively told that she would fall in love with his brother.

then we get one scene of debate... the conflict happens... but as the debate is for the first time both fail to understand each other that effectively. and c who is sandwiched here. its ram. one end its his wife and other end its his brother.

am reminded here of the lunch scene. quite weird but yes.. 😆 see how sita serves.. she first serves lakshman. then she serves ram. she found an ally in lakshman. or as i had mentioned earlier its other way round. ram had become family to her. it happens even in our lives isnt it? if any of the sasural members come to maayka, if elders are there they are served first, if youngsters are there, they are served first, if only spouse is there, he/she is served first.

its like serve the ones who are not a family yet or rather extended family. then serve the ones who have become a part of you and your family.

a same parallel is drawn now...

ram understands both sita as well as lakshman. he takes sita's side.. interesting na? sita is family for him but still an extended one to lakshman. just the way sita had served lakshman first ram takes sita's side first.

its more or less symbolic that lakshman has to go a long way to understand sita. and even sita has to go a long way to understand lakshman.

but how was this initiated? by ram. he indirectly by supporting sita acted like a catalyst to let the ends meet. to make lakshman and sita realise that IT IS IMPORTANT TO CHANGE THEIR PERSPECTIVES. what is called as "nazariya"

hold this point and i'll connect it later.

lets start with the episode... the kid is hungry... he's cute 😳

sita cooks and serves him. at the other end lakshman is pacing restlessly.. sita observes him.

she takes some herbs and asks him put that juice in his eyes. he refuses. now what is does is give AADESH. A very imp clue... and a long running one...

and lakshman succumbs to it.. meanwhile, the kid is taken by the hawk.

sita instead of waking up lakshman, herself goes with the bow and arrows.

her only aim was to free the kid from the clutches of evil. the clutches of GREY SANSKRITI.

and the time she pointed the arrow i was like "gosh!!!no" shruthi this is where i had zeroed on the same title as you... thanx for confirming it 😃

she failed to think that the kid will fall down.. and the moment the hawk is shot, the kid falls and sita rushes. simultaneously lakshman realizes that sita is nowhere and there is danger. he runs. she runs and then our hero runs 👏

the scene was marvelous... ⭐️ not because of running... but because of late realizations...

i had said it earlier, to understand sanskriti prakriti u need to experience it. just the way we need to experience life to understand it.

and this is where the journey of sita has started.

u understand when you try. u learn when commit mistakes. and this is what sita did. the one mistake...

the kid is about to fall in that stormy whirlpool and ram enters it.

and what lakshman does? BHABHI..

the scene was so complex. sita had understood her mistake and lakshman felt he was compelled to sit and this invited tragedy. had sita not cared so much for him he could have protected them.

ram comes out with the child. shruthi today i finally understood what you were telling about the lift scene. i felt the depth once the kid got involved.

ram brought out the kid safe... but c his face was a bit stained with dust...

the stain which wasn't important for ram or sita.. the kid's life was a priority.

ram will bring out sita safely with the agnipariksha but what will happen later? the stain will be intact, isnt it? that same stain which will fall on her kids.

and this interpretation was confirmed when ayodhya scene was brought in.

i actually loved that a DHOBI was brought in... and what connection...👏

WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.

KARMA COMES BACK.

Shatrughna here represented Rajdharma. and even he stresses Rajdharma while talking to sumantra.

And he takes a decision focusing on rajdharma.

note the sequence. Shatrughna apologizes to the father and announces his decision of banishing her to forest for 2 yrs.

i loved the dilemma shatrughna faced.

today shatrughna was in ram's place. he decided... that's it. keeping in view rajdharma.

am loving the parallels of twins... lakshman in forest and shatrughna in palace both presenting SANSKRITI.

And today shatrughna takes the decision in line with sanskriti and denies the law of prakriti...

how?

reputation is sanskriti and life is prakriti.

the girl chose to save her life i.e preserved prakriti even if it meant tarnishing her image in the face of sanskriti.

and see how shatrughna decides... he values sanskriti in name of rajdharma. He does appreciate prakriti but the final nail into the coffin is sanskriti..

today shatrughna announced 2 years of vanvas to her. he assures protection to her.

and now c the parallel irony...

sita will be banished. alone. without army, without protection. all alone with her children in her womb under the open sky and a dangerous forest.

and coz of whom will this debate arise? again it will be "dhobhi"
and i assume the man shown today will lead it...

the man is almost equal to janaka and valmiki.

both ways, the sanskriti will make prakriti suffer.

ram's decision in the future in name of rajdharma will be a payback for shatrughna's decision today.

KARMA COMES BACK.

now i bring back lakshman sita scene and the connection.

the individual journeys...

ram first acted as a catalyst...

lakshman sacrificing his sleep is like denying PRAKRITI or sacrificing PRAKRITI.

sita got a bitter dose with her mistake.

and one learns things from mistakes or absence...

the absence of sleep from lakshman's life makes him understand prakriti, understand sita.

the mistake committed by sita makes her understand sanskriti, understand lakshman.

and c the way... lakshman leaves, ram is disturbed and sita accepts its her mistake.

note the difference.. ram doesn't accompany sita. he lets her handle it.

the scenes from sita's injury till today's scene is connected to previous episodes.

lakshman sita first meet. lakshman acted as a catalyst in making sita curious about ram.

now the debate scene, ram acts as a catalyst in starting their individual journeys.

and today as their journeys began ram left them alone so that the ends meet...

sita asks lakshman if he's angry with her? by accepting her mistake, she's acknowledging sanskriti.

lakshman requests her not to worry about him and let him follow his dharma. The same lakshman who sounded OTT concerned days ago, puts his point politely with respect and love. He's acknowledging the fact that prakriti can be won with love and respect.

now if the twins are parallel and similar where do the differ?

sanskriti in the face of lakshman is the lap of prakriti i.e forest.

sanskriti in the face of shartrughna is still in the cradle of sanskriti.

cmn to the title...

we are on half knowledge..

sita focusses only on one point... and shoots the hawk. did she even give it a thot how and where the kid will land? by prakriti's laws it was correct on her part to save the kid. but once did she even think that how will sanskriti receive this kid? NO... The only thought that if one goes by prakriti's laws the things can be corrected... by trying to save a life sita abide by the rules of prakriti. but she forgot the kid was in the clutches of maya i.e sanskriti. she didn't have a clue where the sanskriti will land the child.

shatrughna is on rajdharma... decides only in line with it. he acknowledges prakriti but doesn't abide by it. see the contrast, sita tries to save life. shatrughna tries to save reputation. BINGO!!!!
he doesn't know what prakriti's justice will be. maybe the justice denied to the girl will become a curse for siya and ram.

lakshman is on swadharma and tyaag. he is somewhere stuck in between sanskriti prakriti but more inclined to sanskriti more than prakriti. by denying sleep, by denying nidra devi he's taking care of his dharma of protecting his family. he wants to keep the word given to his mother. again reputation. and c this is borne by urmila... the sleep lakshman denies, urmila accepts it gracefully and sleeps off. the precap did give this that we are getting nidra urmila.

shruthi i remember our discussion of previous thread. regarding ploughing fields and understanding prakriti.

today i c the equations changing...

cmn to forest ram has traversed the path of sanskriti-prakriti.

today sita going wrong has started the journey of prakriti-sanskriti

everyone's mistake is going to make RAM suffer.

sita shooting the hawk is asking for golden deer. sita giving herb to lakshman is sending him away at the mayavi cry. check...

lakshman abiding to sita's word will make ram lose sita. its going to be a collective mistake of sita and lakshman and ram will have to face the brunt. today ram saved the kid in time. but what tomorrow?

shatrughna taking a decision on rajdharma will compel ram to banish sita in the future. check...

coz the running scene did give me a vibe that ram has understood both sanskriti and prakriti.

ram didn't blame sita. check. understood prakriti.

ram reached in time even in the mass of dust and saved the kid. check. understood sanskriti.

by banishing sita to the forest ram will again take care of sanskriti and prakriti. keeping sita's self respect intact and giving a payback justice to the dhobi who was denied today..




Edited by daydreamers - 9 years ago
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