SKR-Of loops and symbolisms#2:30/04:P.107 - Page 38

@savitha read Geena's and supriya's post. They have explained Sita-Lakshman scene in a beautiful manner.

Even I was not so shocked to see ram lifting Sita and carrying her as I was prepared to watch such scenes after watching numeral eye locks and crooked smiles. If we have to think about Lakshman & Sita's conversation, what Lkshman said was not something new as it is really impossible for any normal lady to walk in forest in pace with men. Atleast I agree with this factor and he could not express that before leaving for vanvas as she had secured the permission from every one before Lakshman could even realize her plans. Even now he would not have opened up had he not seen her pain and hurt leg. However strong we may feel at heart and mind, physically a woman can't match the strength of a man. There will be exception but Sita was a princes and had never faced the hardship in her maternal home and now she is exposed to all sorts of danger be it the falling boulders or the rough path and thorns and not so easily available food and proper shelter. What he felt was like a gentleman who doesn't expect his mother or daughter to face the problems but may not be so possessive when it comes to his wife. Here Lakshman treats Sita as his mother and he could not see her in pain and her foot was bleeding and she was not even able to stand erect that made him hurt in that hurt he said those words to his Bhabhi. And about hitting a person when he is already down is a normal tendency and that is a reflex action o an elder and here Lakshman was like a responsible elder. If you can recall your childhood, you may remember the fact that whenever you fell down or fought with somebody and were hurt, the first thing you heard from your mother or father would have been "why you had to go there or play there, how many times I need to tell you not to go with those kids, they are stronger than you and that game is not meant for you etc.". Only after that will they tend to your wound and console you or may bribe you with a chocolate. But they reprimand you first. that si what Lakshman did and what did he do next, he went to make a pair of slippers for her so that she doesn't have to walk bare foot and hurt herself again.

And about Sita's rebuke, though she was not ready to accept it at the face value, she knew that her company was an hindrance to her husband and they had to accommodate to her pace. So she was already feeling that she may be a burden on them and whatever Lakshman said in those vulnerable moment was like blame on her. So just wanted an assurance from her husband that he doesn't feel her as a burden on his shoulder. Even she acted based on her insecurities and in any normal circumstances, she would not have reacted like that to Lakshman's words.

One thing both Sita and Lakshman knew was that it is difficult for a lady to survive in the wild forest. Sita's morale was so strong that she thought with her seer will power, she can lead a happy life even in forest with her husband but the real life is not based on will power, rather it needs physical strength as well.

I have been thinking about lakshman's eating habits in forest as I had read and heard that he was on fasting through out his vanvas and also didn't sleep a wink during that time. So may be now after this demon attack, he may take up that vrat like neither he will eat nor sleep fro the whole 14 years. he will first yawn after 14 years only in the raja sabha after Sriram's coronation.

Thanks for that Shruti .

Agree with you on the Sabarimala issue . It's more because of the vrat that cannot be observed than any other reason .

Well whatever is happening is sure some politics I am sure !

Its not just the period of 41 days but also the hardship one has to undergo to reach the hill top. During initial days, they didn't had the conveyance and one had to travel on bare foot the whole distance of 50 - 100 KM in dense forest that too holding the irumudi on their head and sleeping in the open space with men. They had have only one meal a day (that too only fruits). so it was really difficult for a lady to fulfill the necessity of the journey and to convince they might have used the pretext of tradition etc.

Shruthi, if I say this please don't feel bad or cringe. When a lady is unsafe even in the city, the think of her condition when left alone with a crowd of men who have been deprived of certain things for certain time. she will have to bath and sleep in common area and in this century, how many people are too pious to think of only the lord and nothing else? Because I have seen in our surrounding where they eat every where including food cooked by wife and they will have normal chat (pep talks with wife or GF), if such people are around, do you think it is good for a lady to take up this just to show liberation.

my husband is devotee of Ayyappa and he goes to Shabari malai every year and off course he will observe only 21 days. Believe it or not, during that period, he doesn't take hot water bath, he will sleep on the mat, he doesn't eat at home and even more is that he doesn't take glass of water from my hand and I am so used to it that I can't even think of entering the pooja room during that period as he will keep a photo of Ayyappa Swamy in the pooja room. During then we don't even switch on the commercial channels on TV and we will just watch some mythological movies or will stick to record player and hear devotional songs. If I happen to have my periods during this stipulated period, I will not even stay at our place because I just can't go against my conscious an his faith. Normally while choosing the date itself, this issue will be tackled but otherwise, I can't imagine of going against the belief. If certain rules are made, they have been made for a reson and we may not know the real reason behind the same. So why try to break it, just to prove something which may not even please our own consciousness?

Whatever you said does not make me feel bad, but the problem is it is because of your first para the whole problem of this Sabarimala entry happening. If everyone is like your husband or my father, uncle who observed the rules strictly whenever they go to Sabarimala, then those rules were enough to say the need for women not going there.

Problem is men are not observing it and then asking women stay put. So they have bend traditions to suit them. They go in vans and buses from where item numbers are played. They don't observe anything strictly and then tell tradition.

Only question is does tradition apply to women also. When rules are floated by one party, the other party will do the same.

My only problem is stick to the basic reason, tell it well, articulate it well. Show data on observance of it. Instead of that why say lord is brahamachari, no woman should come in front of him. I cant digest that reason.

Lakshman and urmila scenes were nice...

"Sleep" is what they are focussing on..

Will we get nidra urmila or awakened lakshmila?

Bharat shatrughna scene was nice...

Cmn to lifting scene shruthi I found ur analysis too deep.. 😆 I don't think cvs must be thinking this deep..

The lift scene was surely a sneak peek into the future.. And so was lakshman sita scene that day.. Lakshman's words will bite him when he's told to drop sita in the forest.. And if cvs don't show the fb of that debate or lakshman guilty on it pakka juta khaenge mera.

Cmn to the lift scene.. Today sita was injured. She had ram and lakshman by her side. Ram looked after her wound. Made her way easier. But what will happen in the future? Once sita is banished to the forest who'll look after her if she injures herself? Who'll lift her? No one.. Ryt? And this is where sita will get an fb of lakshman's dialogue.. I want to write an os . *sigh* Bas time mile I want to write this from that day itself..

The kid with sita is like luv kush in the future.. Its going parallel..

The kid helps sita in drying the cloth... It gives a direct look into what luv kush sita will be like.. And very interestingly ram is a witness every time.. The tym sita serves food and the boy relishes it.. The tym when sita is humming the tune, ram listens from behind the tree.. Note this he's always at a distance from the child and sita.. Whatta screenplay... 👏

Again, luv kush will stay with sita. Ram will be at a distance unable to watch unable to hear. But his heart will stay with them.. The bonding between sita and the kid is like an assurance that Ram's kids will be taken care of by sita...

The morning scene was nice.. Sunrays ram and sita.. It was again a filmi scene... But I loved it.. It was cute..

Ram asks sita for his cloth and sita denies.. It was uber cute 😳

Bharat shatrughna scene loved every aspect of it. Shatrughna finally understands bharat. I loved the similarity of SK here. Kirti felt bad as she wasn't praised for her role in the play. Today shatrughna voices out that he feels unlucky to not having anything important to contribute... But he stresses "rajdharma". And its very true... The most difficult task was in the hands of shatrughna and kirti..

I loved how bharat told him not to give him any news of what's happening and what not.. He serves dual purposes here. First that he ensured shatrughna that he trusts him blindly and the second his redemption. To redeem oneself completely one needs to detach from every possible attachment... Its only then you reach yourself and God. But what he assures shatrughna is the help.. He will come to his rescue when he needs him..

The other scene that I loved was sita draping the cloth for ram. I don't know but I really love this gesture... I was in love with a similar scene between janaka sunaina in episode 3. Sunaina was adjusting the broach for janaka. The next when sita helps ram in getting ready for vanvas. Its one scene that I really cherish...