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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yes Shruthi Mandodari was Ravan's greatest defense. But she was protecting a person who did not respect her. Yes she was duty bound and it was her dharm but wasn't she indirectly responsible for the adharm against so many other women. Dharm here was protecting adharm and hence Dharm (Siya-Ram) had to suffer more to stop the adharm. I don't know if I am going in circles here.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@gmgi ur not going in circles it"s the truth. To ensure dharma oa adharm side is nil ram siya had to suffer. The paths had to cross.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree with you shruthi and janaki...
Infact that's the version I have heard and read... SKR is showing something different...


But again, I choose to ignore it...

I think its very crucial to incorporate mandodari and ravan here... As it is we are getting to c how siya-ram's relation is developing.. It is wise to know what they'll have to face and counterattack in the future...

Again which version it is I don't know but what really amazed me is the thought... That's phenomenal... To draw parallels. It is not easy to put different scenes, different characters in an episode with a common theme... I look forward what they have to offer daily...

Two contrasts paired with a common theme... And that's truly an achievement in terms of writing...

The episode had many interesting dialogues...

And they aren't straight... They are said in a reverse manner..

"Stree hi stree ka dukh samajh sakti hai"

"Netra kholo mandodari"

Plus Mandodari's idea that amrit will save her husband's life...

On the contrary she also knew that her husband did adharma.. His ego,anger everything...

The dialogues above are going to backfire... The day this process starts her defense is going to be weakened...

A slight pointer was there in Sunday's episode...

Vibhishan's information that the amrit will increase his power and he'll get more inclined towards doing adharma...

The expression on her face... It was as if karne kya gaye ho kya gaya...

Vibhishan's talks are waking up her subconscious...

The day mandodari opens her eyes, the defense will weaken...
Edited by daydreamers - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@DD I also loved the parallels they have drawn. Because parallels are needed to understand story in a better manner.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@DD I also loved the parallels they have drawn. Because parallels are needed to understand story in a better manner.


Yeah shruthi...

And its extremely difficult to pen down smthn like this... And in mythology it becomes tricky, almost next to impossible... Thwy are doing a fine job...

Especially yday's episode... So many stories in a single thread and each entwined yet parallel..

Harishchandra, dashratha, ram,janaka,ravan...

All were shown... (Harishchandra thru story. Janaka in fb)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hello Shruthi di (can i call u so? 😃 )
Wondeful analysis 👏
As u pointed out that there has always been some people with dharma associated with adharmis and their dharma palan has always been misused
This was clearly pointed out in SP's Mahabharat where Lord Krishna says that the war wasnt a result of the actions of Duryodhan or Mama Shakuni, it was due to the negligence of the 3 dharma followers-Bhishma Pitamah,Dronacharya and Karna.
And Pandavas had to go through the dice game and 14 years of struggle to be capable of defending and destroying the shield provided by those three. 😳
So maybe inorder to break the shield provided by Mandodari, who is also negligent of Ravan's actions, Sita Maiyya had to go through the struggle 😳
PS: Thanks a lot for posting all those englighting post of yours 😊

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thank you Aadhya. Yes you can call me shruthi. You quoted a very nice point. Yes the struggle is to take the dharma from adharma side.
Edited by shruthiravi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Shruthi, hope you don't mind this interruption. Here we are discussing Mandodari trying to save her husband from death and for that she was ready to sacrifices her self respect and went to her father to fetch Amrit. But are we forgetting in the process that Ravan was not a human or a god but an Asur and human laws doesn't befall on him? Despite Ravan bringing in more ladies to his antahpur, she was sure that she has been loved with same fierceness which he had during her marriage. Added to that Bigamy was not a sin in those days and even the king getting attracted to other women (married or unmarried was immaterial for them) was common and the strength of a man (manhood) was decided by the number of ladies present in his antahpur. If we take the case of lord Indra, even though he was a god, he fell for Ahalya and stealthily had her in the absence of her husband but he was not sent away by Indrani, he was only given shrap by the enraged Muni.
Next was sati Sumati who was a patni of a Rishi and knew that a man should not look for a woman out of his marital bonding, took her sick pati to a courtesan (vaishye) as he was attracted to that lady and had the gal to ask his own wife to take him to that beautiful lady so that he can have her courtship for a night. So if whatever Sumati did was right by taking her husband to that lady (after convincing her for the favor) thinking it as her pativrata dhrama, and later when she realizes her husband will die by the day fall, she stops the Sunrise by using her pativrata dhrama, so that her husband doesn't die. If what she did was right, then how can we categorically say Mandodari was wrong in trying save her husband since he was doing Adharma? Wont that look like our current politicians slogan "the other party also did the same mistake and if we do the same now, it is not wrong" etc. Just because Ravan faltered in his Dharma, why should his wife also shall falter in adhering to her Dharma?
Ravan might have been wronged too many people, but he had never wronged his wife and had fulfilled all his duty towards her and even it was highlighted in SKR also when he said, his love for Mandodari will never diminish nor her position in his life. So for her he was her pati Parameshwar and she wanted to save his life by hook or crook so that she will be with him throughout her life.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#29
@jaya if you read my post you will understand that my whole point was how did the defense Mandodari gave to Ravan was broken. Because that was a huge defense which he got. Irrespective of him doing adharma over adharma in the world, his wife used her chastity to protect him.
Ravan can marry multiple times, he can also have relation with many woman without marriage provided the woman has no problem and if Mandodari wants to protect such a man that's her problem. But raping and abducting irrespective of the yug it is treated as adharma. And when you decide to protect such an adharma, you are on the side of adharma.
Coming to Sumati this principle applies. Her husband wanted to have relation with a prostitute, a willing woman and she didn't had problem with it. So who are we to question it. A relation with another woman is to be questioned by wife, if she is not then no one else has the right as the woman is willing to tolerate it. But tolerating such things from men doesn't make a woman great either, because she is supporting the wrong actions of the man in the name of her patni dharma.
But if the actions create problems for others, then it becomes world's problem, problem for society and a woman supporting that is aiding adharma.
And in every battle of adharma vs dharma the hardest thing is to take dharma from the adharma side. Even Lord Krishna has to struggle for it in kurushetra war to bring Karna down, because though he was in the side of adharma, he had dharma. So was Gandhari's protection to Dury. Taking her dharma was not easy. But Krishna does it. He creates chink in the armour, because she was using her dharm to protect adharm.
That's why you see in the Mother India movie Nargis finally kill her son, or in Fanaa Kajal kills her husband because they have become menance to society. For your personal happiness, allowing a terrorist to escape you are actually bringing many families to tears, including kids who become orphans because of the terrorists action.
So a woman has to take a call whether the problem is personal or it is at a larger scale.
Edited by shruthiravi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#30
Wekl, it was quite dumb of her to get him that protection since he will use it to do more harm!! 👎🏼

Shreya

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